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14th February 2018, 01:31 AM | #121 |
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14th February 2018, 02:40 AM | #122 |
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Generally I don't comment on these things, it's not my country, I have no skin in the game, but this seems like such a simple thing to me.
I don't read the article from the OP as any kind of threat, merely an acknowledgement of the inevitable. If there is no deal over DACA, then these 'dreamers' will simply leave, as opposed to going underground and living in the shadows. "After all these years living like a regular American teenager, I will not go back into hiding." It's no kind of threat (to my reading), more like a simple acceptance of fate. |
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14th February 2018, 08:20 AM | #123 |
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14th February 2018, 08:51 AM | #124 |
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14th February 2018, 12:21 PM | #125 |
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I thought I read that the DACA recipients saying they will leave (a total of one) don't necessarily need to do so right away but will anyways.
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But the articles I've read all deal with these same two women, so I don't see that this is a massive movement. |
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14th February 2018, 02:44 PM | #126 |
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Which there hasn't been, of course. The loss of invested resources will be sad, as will the departure of a group who would likely prove to be far more patriotic and dedicated to the founding ideals of this country than any deluded Trump devotee could ever hope to be, But if the numbers I have heard are accurate, then even including all of the ones who could qualify (not just the ones who were gullible enough to register), we're still only talking about maybe one third of one percent of the over-all population of the country. It would be hardest on any of their families who might remain in the States and the small businesses which many of them likely work for, I expect, but we all know how important families and small businesses really are to the GOP. (Which is to say, not at all.) |
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14th February 2018, 02:45 PM | #127 |
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14th February 2018, 05:17 PM | #129 |
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14th February 2018, 05:37 PM | #130 |
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15th February 2018, 04:27 AM | #132 |
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In a related note it is the white house will not comment on if Trumps Inlaws are using chain migration to get into the country. Maybe the whole thing in the state of the union was to find a way to deport his inlaws?
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15th February 2018, 04:42 AM | #133 |
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So why does that law exist, then? Because people are racist? Or because they want to vet immigrants?
I don't get why you think it's racism necessarily. Should these people who were brought here by their parents given a path to citizenship? Sure. But what if they don't take it? |
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How generous.
I guess you've let threatening and caterwauling go, but are going to now claim they are thirsty. Wise choice, really. The prior two have established meanings while the last is just ambiguous enough that you may get it to stick. Go grab the mic, I think you can still save this one . . . |
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23rd February 2018, 02:51 PM | #137 |
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More thirsty folks caterwauling.
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2nd March 2018, 09:14 PM | #141 |
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That's kinda interesting. The GOP has spent decades courting the fundi Christian vote, and doing its best to remove barriers from the involvement of religious groups in politics and government where they have traditionally existed. The Catholic Church has twice as many members in the U.S. as the SBC, the LDS and the Church of God combined, whose respective memberships supply much if not most of the religious conservative vote they have come to depend on. But while busily removing barriers for the fundi supporters they have counted, apparently, on more mainstream groups keeping their traditional distance from the political arena. The Law of Unintended Consequences might be fixing to bite them in the ass. When I was growing up one of the big boogeymen used by conservatives to scare their constituency (after Commies, of course) was the Catholics, who were all suspect immigrants anyway (and probably Commies). That was one of the popular warnings used to try to beat Kennedy, that he was CATHOLIC!!!. There wasn't anything to it, of course, but it played well in the South. If the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops were able to mobilize a significant fraction of their respective dioceses at the polling booth then it would provide a heck of a counterweight to the GOP's fundamentalist core constituency. And all those fears could come true. |
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18th June 2020, 08:38 PM | #142 |
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Trump's bid to end Obama-era immigration policy ruled unlawful
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18th June 2020, 08:44 PM | #143 |
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I think Roberts has come to the conclusion that, come November, Trump is a goner.
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