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Old 4th July 2017, 08:37 PM   #1
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CNN Doxxes a gif maker

CNN has appeared to abandon news of any sort and instead is doxxing some nobody who made a funny GIF.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politi...eet/index.html

what a buncha pussies
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You don't know what doxxing actually is, do you? Because I see no evidence of it in that article.
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From the article:

"CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again."
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CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.
Wow.
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Old 4th July 2017, 09:23 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
From the article:

"CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again."
So they scared the crap out of the guy and now they want approval? On what basis is CNN owed an apology?
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So they scared the crap out of the guy and now they want approval? On what basis is CNN owed an apology?
Bunch of *****
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Hmmm, I do have misgivings about CNN's approach.

I think it's because while I think that shaming can be a powerful (and justifiable) social tool to move society away from deplorable behavior... I'd normally think of it as being applied by citizens against other citizens. Not by a huge, immensely powerful media corporation trying to make an individual anathema. It seems like a crazy imbalance of power.
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Originally Posted by Giz View Post
From the article:

"CNN is not publishing "HanA**holeSolo's" name because he is a private citizen who has issued an extensive statement of apology, showed his remorse by saying he has taken down all his offending posts, and because he said he is not going to repeat this ugly behavior on social media again."
And after a short stay, HanA**holeSolo will be put on a plane and be delivered back to his parents in a coma.
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I agree that they did not approach this the correct way. They should have immediately published the guy's name.
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I'm not fond of anything that smells even a little like blackmail. This particular guy is pretty obviously scum, so I might not be shedding any tears for him, but I don't like the tactic.
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I'm a little torn about this.

I mean, when I post on the internet I generally do so at least semi-anonymously. I think the administrators here probably have my real name on file, but probably if someone really tech savvy tried they could figure it out. I want to keep my real-life identity as hidden as possible most of the time.

Devil's advocate: maybe we would get better quality of posting on the internet if everyone's real identity was known, or easy to find out. Want to be a troll? Fine, but your friends, your family, your boss and coworkers can see it. People might think a little harder about what they say online. OTOH, it's not only the trolls. Everyone would have to be more careful about what they say.
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I bet the gif maker works for the Russians.

******' Putin.
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Old 4th July 2017, 11:54 PM   #13
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So it is "fake news" if it is an anonymous source.
But it is doxxing and bad if a guy making gif showing violence by the president against journalist (*) is uncovered ?

I am guessing some like to protect anonymity or uncover only when it arrange them , like only when criticizing the "other" side.

(*) and with the current context of blocking by the white house , and the fact some of us recall that in many despotic regime the first to suffer violence/blockage by the regime are the journalists and news, some of us did not really find that humorous at all. Rather very dark.
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I think too much has been made of that silly gif. It was celebratory, not a call to arms. Incidentally, wrestling is fake.
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I think too much has been made of that silly gif. It was celebratory, not a call to arms. Incidentally, wrestling is fake.
It's not the silly gif. It's the silly git. e.g. the person who re-tweeted it. That would be the President of the United States. Passing notes in history class like any other fourteen year old.
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That is very like a gif I might have made if I'd thought of it. Just for the bizarre humor of it. If asked to apologize I'd say "Hell no!". However, no malice or incitement would be intended on my part. And I don't have the posting history that guy does.
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Good for CNN.
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Originally Posted by zorro99 View Post
Good for CNN.
that will teach citizens to put the CNN logo in pro wrestling gif!

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Old 5th July 2017, 06:24 AM   #20
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that will teach citizens to put the CNN logo in pro wrestling gif!

What is you find objectionable? Could you please articulate your thoughts on this in a paragraph or two? I would really like to know.
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The gif was never loved, but it is funny how quickly this became a milkshake duck scenario.
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CNN has appeared to abandon news of any sort and instead is doxxing some nobody who made a funny GIF.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/politi...eet/index.html

what a buncha pussies
TBD is wrong. CNN didn't "doxx" anyone

CNN did investigative research, and found the person who created the GIF (Hanassholesolo) that @POTUS tweeted and tried to contact him to speak with him.

CNN then wrote an article and specifically did not publish the mans name.

Hanassholesolo should proudly stand up to be recognized and own his GIF and all the rest of his posts.
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So they scared the crap out of the guy and now they want approval? On what basis is CNN owed an apology?
Who claimed CNN was owed an apology ?
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Wow.
IKR ? They don't have to reserve any rights.

They need to publish his name, no more of these "anonymous" "fake news" stories.
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Originally Posted by TheL8Elvis View Post
TBD is wrong. CNN didn't "doxx" anyone

CNN did investigative research, and found the person who created the GIF (Hanassholesolo) that @POTUS tweeted and tried to contact him to speak with him.

CNN then wrote an article and specifically did not publish the mans name.

Hanassholesolo should proudly stand up to be recognized and own his GIF and all the rest of his posts.
TBD forgot to mention that the reporter who did the research and discovered the maker of the GIF is now receiving death threats.
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You don't know what doxxing actually is, do you? Because I see no evidence of it in that article.
Words don't mean anything anymore. People on one side of the political spectrum create one, and people on the other side abuse it to the point where it's meaningless.
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I agree that they did not approach this the correct way. They should have immediately published the guy's name.
Agreed. It's not the job of a news organization to withhold information. And it's flat out weird to use identity as threatened punishment.
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Agreed. It's not the job of a news organization to withhold information.
News organizations including CNN withhold information all the bloody time. It's very much their job. They have a limited amount of bandwidth, any decision to report something is necessarily a decision to not report something else.

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And it's flat out weird to use identity as threatened punishment.
They shouldn't have threatened punishment, they should have just punished. Is that the idea? Because that's exactly what Ken is saying.
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They shouldn't have threatened punishment, they should have just punished. Is that the idea? Because that's exactly what Ken is saying.
Calling it punishment is a misnomer. It may have negative consequences, but publishing as part of a story is neither punishment or retribution. CNN should simply have published Hanassholesolos name as part of the story.
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News organizations including CNN withhold information all the bloody time. It's very much their job. They have a limited amount of bandwidth, any decision to report something is necessarily a decision to not report something else.
Seeing as they used more bandwidth explaining the non revelation, your observation is nonsensical. And your wisdom about the job of a news organization is absurdly literal.
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I don't know about his other posts, but the guy owes no one an apology for the GIF. Well, maybe the WWE for using their content.
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CNN reserves the right to publish his identity should any of that change.
CNN the King of Fake News and Outright Threats.
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Calling it punishment is a misnomer. It may have negative consequences, but publishing as part of a story is neither punishment or retribution. CNN should simply have published Hanassholesolos name as part of the story.
What possible purpose would it serve? The only results I can see coming out of that are negative. Except maybe for scaring him into not posting the other crap he's been doing.
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That is very like a gif I might have made if I'd thought of it. Just for the bizarre humor of it. If asked to apologize I'd say "Hell no!". However, no malice or incitement would be intended on my part. And I don't have the posting history that guy does.
But you'd be making the same mistake every novice artist makes, thinking your intended message and the message the audience receives will look remotely similar.

The President of the United States pummeling and dominating "journalism" in a display of proto-homonid violence has a clear subtext aside from "the lulz", a lack of awareness of that subtext on the author's part doesn't mean it isn't there.

Then when that very same President retweets it (official White House statement?) that's a whole different ball game.

Once you publish you basically surrender control over it's "meaning."

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CNN the King of Fake News and Outright Threats.
I'm confused. What parts do you object to and why?
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I'm confused. What parts do you object to and why?
The part about the fake news and the outright threats, obviously.
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The President of the United States pummeling and dominating "journalism" in a display of proto-homonid violence has a clear subtext aside from "the lulz", a lack of awareness of that subtext on the author's part doesn't mean it isn't there.
Oh, come on. It sounds as if this guy has made some hateful posts (according to CNN) but the wrestling one is a harmless trash joke. We would have to be hysterically hypersensitive to be triggered by it.
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What possible purpose would it serve? The only results I can see coming out of that are negative. Except maybe for scaring him into not posting the other crap he's been doing.
There's a reason Hanassholesolo doesn't want his reddit posts linked to him IRL, as you alluded to.

Off the top of my head, it might cause other people to also think twice before making posts on the Internet that they don't want to own IRL.

You're free to make the speech you want (within the limits of the constitution), you're not guaranteed to be free from the public opinion/consequences of that speech.
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Oh, come on. It sounds as if this guy has made some hateful posts (according to CNN) but the wrestling one is a harmless trash joke. We would have to be hysterically hypersensitive to be triggered by it.
I don't have any complaints against the guy who created it. The problem is that The PDJT retweeted it sans comment. If he had added something like -- "I thought this was funny" it would have put a different spin on it. As it is, it seems like an endorsement.
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CNN the King of Fake News and Outright Threats.
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The part about the fake news and the outright threats, obviously.
Dodge.
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