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Old 29th July 2019, 04:57 PM   #4361
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oh deary me, reality check lost the plot.

Can you see your contridiction here rc, jd11, lukrak?

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Big Red Ball is a three-meter-wide hollow sphere, with a strong magnet at its center and various probes inside. The researchers pump helium gas in, ionize it to create a plasma, and then apply an electric current that, along with the magnetic field, stirs the plasma, creating a near-perfect mimic of the spinning plasma and electromagnetic fields of the sun
Just saying SAFIRE was bagged out for doing basically the same thing. Should have seen you mob spit the dummy.

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Old 29th July 2019, 05:59 PM   #4362
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oh deary me, reality check lost the plot.

Can you see your contridiction here rc, jd11, lukrak?

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Big Red Ball is a three-meter-wide hollow sphere, with a strong magnet at its center and various probes inside. The researchers pump helium gas in, ionize it to create a plasma, and then apply an electric current that, along with the magnetic field, stirs the plasma, creating a near-perfect mimic of the spinning plasma and electromagnetic fields of the sun
Just saying SAFIRE was bagged out for doing basically the same thing. Should have seen you mob spit the dummy.

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Old 29th July 2019, 08:09 PM   #4363
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Thumbs down The usual lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years

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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.

Sol88's usual insanity of citing mainstream science irrelevant to his demented cult's electric comet and Sun.
Sol88's usual insane lies - the research he linked to is part of the mainstream explaining solar activity!
Sol88's usual insane lies - the demented SAFIRE experiment has a metal ball for the Sun and has nothing to do with the real Sun or this science which has no metal ball. Over 5 years running now and the demented SAFIRE experiment has no published results about the Sun.

Sol88's usual insane lies - the demented SAFIRE experiment having electric currents does not make it science.
Sol88's usual insane lies - the demented SAFIRE experiment is not "doing basically the same thing" - it is a deluded fantasy about the surface features of the Sun.

This is a rational scientific experiment to model the solar environment outside of the Sun. A laboratory model for the Parker spiral and magnetized stellar winds my emphasis added.
The Parker spiral is the shape of the interplanetary magnetic field from the Sun.

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Old 29th July 2019, 08:13 PM   #4364
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Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.

Sol88's usual insanity of citing mainstream science irrelevant to his demented cult's electric comet and Sun.
Sol88's usual insane lies - the research he linked to is part of the mainstream explaining solar activity!
Sol88's usual insane lies - the demented SAFIRE experiment has a metal ball for the Sun and has nothing to do with the real Sun or this science which has no metal ball. Over 5 years running now and the demented SAFIRE experiment has no published results about the Sun.

Sol88's usual insane lies - the demented SAFIRE experiment having electric currents does not make it science.
Sol88's usual insane lies - the demented SAFIRE experiment is not "doing basically the same thing" - it is a deluded fantasy about the surface features of the Sun.

This is a rational scientific experiment to model the solar environment outside of the Sun. A laboratory model for the Parker spiral and magnetized stellar winds my emphasis added.
The Parker spiral is the shape of the interplanetary magnetic field from the Sun.

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Old 29th July 2019, 09:51 PM   #4365
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Oh poor deluded reality check.



How do they power this thing?

Back in your hole champ.
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Old 30th July 2019, 05:49 AM   #4366
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Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
Oh poor deluded reality check.



How do they power this thing?

Back in your hole champ.
They are modelling the solar wind. Not the Sun. I thought that was quite obvious. There are reasons why it is difficult to form a star in a lab. And all this is nothing to do with the complete failure of the asinine ec woo. If you want to resurrect the electric sun woo thread, then do so. Just make sure that you've figured out where all the neutrinos come from, and can explain the energy spectrum of said neutrinos, that show it to match p-p chain fusion. As predicted by real scientists, and as not predicted by electric universe idiots.
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Old 30th July 2019, 11:51 AM   #4367
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Why are you still posting?

You've admitted that you do not have any way of fitting observed data with your 'model' and that you are purely acting on faith in the hope that eventually nature will behave opposite of the way it does now.

Even if, and that is a very big if given your cherry picking and misinterpretation of scientific papers, there are gaps in the mainstream model, your completely wrong model will not replace it.
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Old 30th July 2019, 02:07 PM   #4368
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The usual lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years

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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral

Sol88's utter insanity that just because two experiments are powered by electricity that they are the same. So in his brain, the Large Hadron Collider should be the same experiment as the demented SAFIRE experiment !

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Old Yesterday, 06:02 PM   #4369
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Whilst waiting for the raft of new papers, i thought id throw this in here for context.

The comet Ceres.

Search for water outgassing of (1) Ceres near perihelion

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The two main mechanisms believed to produce such amounts of water molecules are sublimation of water ice recently exposed by impacts or landslides, and sputtering from SEP events. The first mechanism does not seem to be confirmed by this work, because it would imply a correlation between the heliocentric distance and the observations of water molecules, which is contradictory to our non-detection performed just before perihelion.
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Old Yesterday, 06:08 PM   #4370
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Thumbs down The usual lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years

Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
The insane insults of the deceased Michael Francis A'Hearn by Sol88 linking him with demented dogma, etc.
Sol88's lies about the demented SAFIRE experiment about the Sun and a scientific experiment about the solar wind and Parker spiral

Usual insane lies from Sol88 - Ceres is a dwarf planet and this is a thread on comets !

Search for water outgassing of Ceres near perihelion was a search for the cause of sublimating water ices on the dwarf planet Ceres and comes to a rational, scientific conclusion:
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Conclusions. Our observations support the idea that heliocentric distance (i.e., the sublimation of water ice) does not play a major role in the water emission from Ceres. This production rate could be either related to SEP events or to other mechanisms, possibly of endogenic origin.
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The lack of any clear correlation between Ceres’ heliocentric distance and observed water vapor production rates does not favor the hypothesis of a water vapor emission created by sublimation of water ice analogous to comets (or, at least, if water vapor is emitted by this process, which is probable to some extent, then it is below the detection level).
This paper shows that Cere's activity is not analogous to cometary activity because there is no evidence of variation with Cere's orbit. That leaves solar energetic particles (SEP) or other rational, scientific mechanisms.

None of Sol88's demented cult's dogma about comets, imaginary enormous solar electric fields and electric discharge machining insanity here.

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Originally Posted by Sol88 View Post
Whilst waiting for the raft of new papers, i thought id throw this in here for context.

The comet Ceres.

Search for water outgassing of (1) Ceres near perihelion
Second sentence in the abstract:

Ceres was the target of NASA’s Dawn spacecraft for 3.5 yr, which achieved a detailed characterization of the dwarf planet.
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Second sentence in the abstract:

Ceres was the target of NASA’s Dawn spacecraft for 3.5 yr, which achieved a detailed characterization of the dwarf planet.
Sol88's cult already have the insanity that main-belt comets are electric comets where the insanity is that the hundreds of thousands of asteroids with similarly eccentric orbits have to be comets - and they are not !

Sol88 wants to make this even more insane by making a dwarf planet in the asteroid belt with really low eccentricity one of his cult's electric comets. I suspect that may push up the number of asteroids that must be comets in their fantasy into the millions!

And what about Pluto - a dwarf plant with no cometary activity and higher eccentricity than Ceres that Sol88's cult would expect to be comet in his new fantasy. Ditto for Eris, Haumea, and Makemake?
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Whilst waiting for the raft of new papers, i thought id throw this in here for context.

The comet Ceres.

Calvin, presenting his science report to his grade school class:

"Dusk! With a creepy, tingling sensation, you hear the fluttering of leathery wings! Bats! With glowing red eyes and glistening fangs, these unspeakable giant bugs drop onto..."

Entire grade school class, in unison:

"BATS AREN'T BUGS!!"
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Old Yesterday, 08:11 PM   #4374
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You’re missing the point.

Sol88 has been silent for a while because he’s been busy doing sophisticated calculations and making estimates.

I think he’s on the cusp of being able to show that a giant lightning bolt blasted rock, forming the Grand Canyon (or maybe the Rift Valley). The blasted rock was sent into solar orbit, coalescing to form Ceres. Sol88’s calculations show that the relative abundance of various mineral species, and water, for Ceres closely matches that of the blasted rock, once you take account of the solar wind and changes wrought by the bolts. Better: the total mass is consistent! And the cosmic event was witnessed by native Americans, and Australian Aborigines, about 20,000 years ago.

Sol88 is working on writing a paper to report these remarkable results, planning to submit it Icarus, hoping for a nice Xmas pressie.
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