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Old 4th August 2019, 02:37 PM   #561
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
...usual insults snipped...
Calling lithium a cure is outrageous. A successful treatment for many when dosed continuously, but not even close to a cure
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You need to actually read what you reply to.
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Psychiatry has many cures as in treatments that control conditions, e.g. lithium for bipolar disorder
Lithium is a "cure as in treatments that control conditions" as I wrote.
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Old 4th August 2019, 02:50 PM   #562
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
The thread has lots of pages and lots of detail why it's a failure..
Which is extremely wrong. The thread has what you imagine to be failures and that anyone who reads your sources sees are not failures of psychiatry.

This thread started on 8 June 2016 with mispleading us about the case of Ashley Peacock being a failure of psychiatry. Ashley was not "held in a small cell in solitary confinement for 5 years". Ashley was in isolation with only 90 minutes a day outside of his room because the mental health unit did not have the resources to handle a patient with an increasing frequency of psychotic episodes. That was a failure of the health system, not psychiatry.

The errors just kept on coming!
10 June 2016 The Atheist: A paper showing continued testing of drugs used in psychiatry is not a failure of psychiatry
10 June 2016 The Atheist: A paper not about exercise is not about exercise!
10 June 2016 The Atheist: Can you understand that this paper does not state that exercise is better than drugs?
14 June 2016 The Atheist: How many drug companies misreported suicide attempts and suicidal thoughts events in the paper that the news article you cited reported on?
17 June 2016: If sales revenues = usage, the numbers show that only a few % more people take Aspirin™ Cardio rather than Aspirin™. This is evidence against The Atheist's "most' (90% or 75% or "main" or whatever goal posts he moves to next) assertion.
17 June 2016: The sales revenue from aspirin for heart health were slightly less than for general health in 2013.
29 August 2016 The Atheist: Can you understand that your news article does not mention babies?
29 August 2016 The Atheist: Can you understand that the study never studied babies?
29 August 2016 The Atheist: Can you understand that pediatricians and GPs are not psychiatrists?
29 August 2016 The Atheist: What is your evidence to back up your assertion about "babies" being prescribed antipsychotics being a fail?
30 August 2016 The Atheist: "Effects of Exercise Training on Older Patients With Major Depression" = equally effective.
30 August 2016 The Atheist: "Is Exercise a Viable Treatment for Depression?" = to a comparable extent.
30 August 2016 The Atheist: "The Benefits of Exercise for the Clinically Depressed" = potentially powerful adjunct to existing treatments (as pointed out a couple of months ago!).
30 August 2016 The Atheist: "Exercise Treatment for Major Depression: Maintenance of Therapeutic Benefit at 10 Months" ( a 16 year old paper) = comparable across the three treatment conditions at 4 months, possible smaller relapse rate for those in the exercise group at 10 months
etc.

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Old 5th August 2019, 08:14 PM   #563
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Between the misdirection, obfuscation and outright lies, your posting is indistinguishable from a shill.
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Old 12th August 2019, 08:26 PM   #564
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Originally Posted by The Atheist View Post
Between the misdirection, obfuscation and outright lies, your posting is indistinguishable from a shill.
Insults do not hide the fact that this thread is has a record of 3 years of what you imagine to be failures that are not failures of psychiatry and not supported by your sources and errors about those sources.
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