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Old 29th February 2020, 04:35 AM   #1
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Home Office boss quits over 'campaign against him'

The top civil servant in the Home Office has resigned and said he intends to claim against the government for constructive dismissal.

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Sir Philip Rutnam said there had been a "vicious and orchestrated" campaign against him in Home Secretary Priti Patel's office.

Reported tensions between the pair included claims she mistreated officials - which she has denied.

Sir Philip, who has had a career spanning 33 years, said he received allegations that Ms Patel's conduct towards employees included "shouting and swearing" and "belittling people".
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Old 29th February 2020, 04:36 AM   #2
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His statement in full

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51688261
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Old 29th February 2020, 04:37 AM   #3
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Oh I am sure that he just misunderstood Ms Patel's management style, it was just friendly joshing!
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Old 29th February 2020, 08:04 AM   #4
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A civil servant who had delusions of being a civil master.

The civil servants are disgustingly overpaid to do their jobs, and on top of that receive honours (note the 'Sir') just for doing their jobs. The job consists of advising their political masters what is possible within the law, and implementing the policies of their political masters to the best of their ability: they're expected to keep a low public profile to earn their over-generous remuneration and benefits.

Sir Philip, in his resignation statement, vehemently denies briefing against his boss, but in that same statement does brief against that boss - including accusing her of lying, and stating that he will take the government to court: these are actions designed to create the greatest possible embarrassment for the government and not the normal actions of a career civil servant.

I'm no fan of Priti Patel, and I hope and expect that she will be sacked as a result of this fracas. But people who dislike, or even hate, her shouldn't let that blind them into believing that Sir Philip acted correctly.

There's a very asymmetric relationship between ministers and the civil servant heads - ministers can be, and are, sacked or moved at regular intervals by their boss, the Prime Minister, and can also be thrown out of office by the public not reelecting them (or more likely not reelecting the party currently in power) - but the civil servants have a job for life if they keep their heads down, as is reflected in the job title of 'Permanent Secretary'.

I would like to see this guy lose his legal case and have costs awarded against him: in my opinion, the manner of his resignation shows that he wasn't doing his job competently.

It's a shame that there's no chance of him losing his knighthood or his gold-plated pension.

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Old 29th February 2020, 08:53 AM   #5
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That someone is paid well for their position should not mean they have to put up with bullying.

If that has occurred, it's important for it to be brought to light to stop it happening to others.
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Old 29th February 2020, 12:48 PM   #6
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Brexiters rallying round to defend workplace bullying?

What a surprise.
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Old 29th February 2020, 02:30 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by commandlinegamer View Post
That someone is paid well for their position should not mean they have to put up with bullying.

If that has occurred, it's important for it to be brought to light to stop it happening to others.
Which you get into the upper levels of management, either in business or in government, you have to expect a lot of infighting and people undermining your position. Goes with the job.
Are you really neive enough not to know this.
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Old 29th February 2020, 03:04 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Which you get into the upper levels of management, either in business or in government, you have to expect a lot of infighting and people undermining your position. Goes with the job.

Are you really neive enough not to know this.
Are you so naive to think a 30 year vetren of the civil service who has worked with dozens of ministers of all major parties and all their aides is so naive?
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Old 1st March 2020, 04:06 AM   #9
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Health Secretary Matt Hancock has defended Priti Patel as "courteous" following bullying claims made by the ex-top civil servant in her department.

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Mr Hancock described Ms Patel as "very determined" but also "extremely courteous".

He added that she was "probably closer to where the public are on the issues of law and order than any home secretary in recent history".
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According to BBC correspondent Iain Watson, allies of Ms Patel are privately suggesting that Sir Philip was not up to the demands of the job.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51694413
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Old 1st March 2020, 04:37 AM   #10
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Are you so naive to think a 30 year vetren of the civil service who has worked with dozens of ministers of all major parties and all their aides is so naive?
Given Sir Philip’s position and what he stands to lose, I think his actions are driven by principal and courage. If he and his staff are being bullied he has a duty to act.

Decades ago Australian commonwealth and state governments moved from the “Permanent Secretary” convention to one where incoming governments brought in their own heads of departments. It seems to have worked well and maybe it’s time for the UK government to do the same.
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Old 1st March 2020, 12:01 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by ceptimus View Post
A civil servant who had delusions of being a civil master.The
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Oh good grief...
You really hate (or fear) competent people with actual expertise don't you?
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Oh good grief...
You really hate (or fear) competent people with actual expertise don't you?
No.
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Old 1st March 2020, 02:24 PM   #13
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Boris Johnson backs Priti Patel after bullying claim

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Prime Minister Boris Johnson has backed Home Secretary Priti Patel following bullying claims made by the ex-top civil servant in her department.

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The BBC has also learnt that a formal complaint about Ms Patel's conduct was made when she was employment minister.
The home secretary has previously denied she mistreated staff.
Speaking during a visit to Public Health England in North London, Mr Johnson said he "absolutely" has confidence in Ms Patel.
"I think she's a fantastic home secretary" he said.
"Anybody who's been home secretary will testify that is one of the toughest jobs in government."
He added that he was "full of admiration for our civil service and the job that they do".
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The BBC's home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw has also learnt that a formal complaint about Ms Patel's conduct was made when she was employment minister at the Department for Work and Pensions. The substance of it is not known, nor whether it was substantiated or followed up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51694413

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Doesn't really matter what the Tories are saying about Patel. They would do that anyway. He has a history of ducking out of contentious issues (such as the Windrush scandal), the press(a label that raises flags) have even refered to him as 'Sir Calamity'. This is looking increasing like a concerted campaign to discredit the Government by picking at the weakest link. It does raise questions about partisan positions in the CS, possibly looking at political or private progression post 'resignation'.
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Old 3rd March 2020, 04:17 PM   #16
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Priti Patel staff member received £25k payout over bullying allegations

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A former aide to Priti Patel received a £25,000 payout from the government after claiming she was bullied by the then employment minister.

Legal correspondence seen by the BBC alleges the woman took an overdose of prescription medicine following the alleged incident in 2015.

The DWP did not admit liability and the case did not come before a tribunal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51705069
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Old 3rd March 2020, 04:21 PM   #17
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Home Office boss quits over 'campaign against him'

As an American who has worked at home from a home office, this thread title is so jarring. It just strikes me that being separated from human interaction so long that you end up quitting your work from home job due to a nefarious 'campaign' in the workplace is not so far from the truth.
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More claims of bullying have come forward:

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Home Secretary Priti Patel has been accused of bullying staff at a third government department, BBC Newsnight has learned.

The claims are from her time as International Development Secretary from 2016 to 2017, and follow similar claims at the Home Office and the Department for Work and Pensions.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51731753

Conservatives claim that it's all a conspiracy

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A Tory source said "dark forces" were trying to influence an inquiry into Ms Patel's conduct in her current role.
"Deep State" in the UK

The Conservatives are learning quickly from President Trump.
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The latest claims to come to light were reportedly passed in 2017 to the DfID official by another senior figure in the department - who advised that the cabinet secretary at the time, the late Lord Heywood, should be informed.

The senior figure wanted the allegations to be lodged in the Whitehall system so that officials would be aware of allegations surrounding Ms Patel if, as expected, she returned to ministerial office.
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A source from the Conservative Party told Newsnight: "What we are seeing is a concerted effort by certain sections of the civil service to undermine a home secretary trying to deliver what people want on crime and immigration.

"It is deeply disturbing that dark forces are trying to influence the findings of a Cabinet Office inquiry."
I would say the only 'Dark Forces' are the ones pulling the strings in Number 10.
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