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6th January 2019, 02:28 AM | #921 |
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6th January 2019, 02:48 AM | #924 |
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There is no mention of self defence in that post. Please link to and quote you previously making the argument that "when a racial minority murders at a rate of 10 times the racial majority, the bar of self defense will be lower..."
Then please provide the links and quotes I requested here; http://www.internationalskeptics.com...4#post12554204 Then answer this "Why is "the bar of self defence" lower when a racial minority murders more than the racial majority?" |
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6th January 2019, 03:35 AM | #926 |
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You are blaming black people for a problem that is also present amongst other races and in this thread, the police.
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6th January 2019, 06:53 AM | #931 |
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Seeing gun violence as a problem, which negatively affects the black community more than the white, does not therefore mean I am "put-off by blacks". I see the black community primarily as victims of the problem. I see the police as one of the various causes of the problems.
Where I went, lived and worked in the USA, turns out I was at most risk from the white police officers. Your inability to make a coherent claim, let alone argument is why you are the subject of ridicule. |
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6th January 2019, 06:59 AM | #932 |
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Again, why is "the bar of self defence" lower when a racial minority murders more than the racial majority?
Stop dodging my previous requests for you to provide links and quotes to the following claims you made; "This thread is about overpolicing (mostly) blacks." and "Now you claim police are uninterested in policing blacks." |
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One problem with that is that, by coincidence, ones of the leading remaining causes of childhood exposure to lead is from old house paint, most often encountered by the poorest cohorts of the economic scale, who are inhabiting the very structures where remedial treatment has been most overlooked. Leaving minorities at the top of that exposure list. |
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I'm not going to keep linking back to posts just because you claim to have missed them. It stalls and obfuscates the discussion and that has been the tactic for others as well. Please follow the thread of discussion and it is currently about your refusal to ever live in a black neighborhood.
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It is not possible to discuss the police without discussing the population that is being policed. I have to keep repeating myself with you people.
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You really don't.
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You lie about what I say, make up claims about me being racist and dodge my points and questions. You are trolling the thread to keep it off the topic of US police behaviour.
Again, why is "the bar of self defence" lower when a racial minority murders more than the racial majority? Stop dodging my previous requests for you to provide links and quotes to the following claims you made; "This thread is about overpolicing (mostly) blacks." and "Now you claim police are uninterested in policing blacks." |
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7th January 2019, 03:14 AM | #942 |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/20/u...era-study.html
"After a series of high-profile police shootings, police departments across the nation turned to body cameras, hoping they would curb abuses. But a rigorous study released Friday shows that they have almost no effect on officer behavior. The 18-month study of more than 2,000 police officers in Washington found that officers equipped with cameras used force and prompted civilian complaints at about the same rate as those who did not have them." The behaviour of the police is ingrained and they feel safe behaving as they do. |
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That's because, in general, they are. Despite the increasing use of body cameras by police, there hasn't been a significant increase in the censure, discipline, or prosecution of police who use excessive or unnecessary force and abuse their authority. The institutions that protect law enforcement officers need to be broken and remade with better accountability structures before any real progress will be seen. |
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Nice obfuscation tactic but I have no interest in playing this game. Anyone can go back and you did see that you said this
Just like anyone can go back and see you said it's horrible to live in a society with black people. |
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And your point is?
Police shoot unarmed blacks at a similar rate to armed whites. I am sure that there are lots of police shootings that are more or less justifiable, however it's telling that unarmed blacks are as likely to be shot as armed whites. If the shootings were based on an unemotional assessment of risk, one would have to assume that armed people are generally more dangerous than unarmed people, and would assume that shootings rates of unarmed blacks would be far lower than armed whites. |
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Maybe if more cops are shooting cops, it will lead to a reassessment of methods....
https://fox59.com/2019/01/08/lafayet...d-in-shooting/ You think maybe the guy didn't sufficiently follow the verbal commands? |
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It would appear that Baylor is learning the Trump method of ********. Just repeat lies that have nothing to do with the posts he's replying to.
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A whole load of posts, where he tries to blame black people for the behaviour of the US police and calls others racists for blaming the police themselves for their own behaviour, have been removed from the thread.
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https://abc7news.com/marine-veteran-...gated/5115639/
"The Vallejo police department has launched an internal investigation. A man claims an officer used excessive force and placed him under arrest-- until the officer realized he was a veteran." The Facebook post by Adrian Burrell is here: https://www.facebook.com/Adrian90313...1814190296933/ |
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Seems to be excessive force and completely unnecessary. It'll go nowhere and the plaintiff isn't helping his case with hyperbolic claims of his "humanity being taken away from me".
What I don't get is the reference to his "veteran" status. Apart from the obvious, what puts a veteran above the law (notwithstanding the excessive application of it here) or affords them, seemingly, preferential treatment? |
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I don't understand the question.
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7th February 2019, 02:49 AM | #955 |
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If he hadn't been a soldier at some point the cop would have carried on and arrested him? Do 'veterans' in the US have a special status that means they don't get assaulted by the police ? |
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These are questions you should be directing to the police officer. I'm not sure how anyone else can answer them.
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Denver officers disciplined for handcuffing journalist photographing arrest
Susan Greene was filming officers last July when they took her phone and put her in handcuffs https://www.denverpost.com/2019/02/0...ng-journalist/ |
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She should have told them she was a veteran then.
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It might not have helped.
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