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19th June 2019, 02:04 PM | #1081 |
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The thesis is simple - police should shoot to kill at the first hint that they may be in any sort of danger, should not hesitate to use overwhelming force on a "suspect". In other words, he teaches cops how to escalate any situation, and to see the world around them as a threat.
Now, combine this with the "thug" stereotype of black men in particular (or for that matter, the "savage" stereotype of Native Americans, the one racial group more brutalized by police than black people), and you see the end result. |
19th June 2019, 04:03 PM | #1082 |
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Perhaps I should rephrase. I'm not seeing enough of the context to be able to verify that Grossman is actually saying what the video seems to be claiming or implying that he's saying. Contrast escalation, for example, with the use of force continuum. The concept of the latter is not inherently bad in theory - although it's clearly apparent that all too many police officers move toward lethal or excessive force without due critical thinking. And are very rarely held accountable for it.
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19th June 2019, 06:24 PM | #1083 |
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72 Philadelphia police officers are off street duty over racist and hateful Facebook posts
CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/19/us/ph...rnd/index.html |
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19th June 2019, 08:18 PM | #1084 |
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This is a rather brilliant illustration of the oft-repeated argument that some of us here have repeatedly made that speech, though "free" in the legal sense, has consequences. |
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19th June 2019, 08:56 PM | #1085 |
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We've had somewhat similar issues in Bmore due to the Gun Trace Task Force's corruption.
As an engineer, I see no issue. If I were to falsify *one* record, and initial it, that would be a severe problem for my credibility. That's just how it is, and it's a reason to avoid falsifying records (note: I don't mean honest mistakes, I mean deliberate ones). A cop that does anything out of line - planting drugs on one suspect, acting out one time - should have all of their cases heavily scrutinized by an independent body, the end. |
24th June 2019, 07:16 AM | #1086 |
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Some troubling things about this police shooting in South Bend.
Apparently the officer had a body camera, but it wasn't turned on, which raises questions. It also sounds very similar to another case, which turned out to be a murder and a cover-up. (All stories about the shooting have a heavy focus on the political angle, sorry.) Pete Buttigieg's campaign faces a test after the fatal South Bend police shooting of a black man
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Now, the officer's story sounds very similar to another one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Laquan_McDonald
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24th June 2019, 08:29 AM | #1087 |
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"The publication reports that Irby’s husband rammed his car into the back of his wife’s vehicle after the hearing, citing police documents. Police said Irby called local authorities shortly after the incident “uncontrollably crying and advised that she was in fear for her life.”
Police reportedly arrested Irby’s husband on charges of aggravated battery after the incident. According to HuffPost, Irby had previously received protective orders against her husband. Irby’s husband was reportedly released from police custody a day after his arrest. He was later reportedly ordered by a judge turn over the firearms in his possession as a condition of his pretrial release. That’s when Irby reportedly went to her husband’s home to retrieve his firearms and hand them over to police because she said “he wasn’t going to turn them in.” But once Irby arrived at the local Lakeland Police Department, she was arrested for the act after police said she admitted to burglary and theft." https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ter-saying-she Well that shows who the police find more sympathetic, the domestic abuser of course. |
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24th June 2019, 11:17 AM | #1088 |
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How come the control of a body cam is left to the individual officer?
There shouldn't be any way for an officer on patrol to turn the camera on or off. They should be on and working when he starts his shift and only able to be turned off back at the station when he finishes. |
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24th June 2019, 11:39 AM | #1090 |
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What tech do you need? All it needs is an on off button that can be locked or no on off button at all.
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24th June 2019, 11:42 AM | #1091 |
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//Again this is all layperson guessing//
Are the cameras capable of filming in acceptable resolution all day from a battery/storage perspective? Maybe a full shift "On" isn't possible yet. And there might be privacy issues. Cop clocks out for lunch or goes to the bathroom I can imagine the camera can't necessarily stay on. |
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24th June 2019, 11:43 AM | #1092 |
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No shutting it off for peepee and poopoo.
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24th June 2019, 11:51 AM | #1093 |
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Lady cop needs to change tampon. Camera stays on.
Cop needs to speak to their doctor (or anyone) about something highly private and personal. Camera stays on and records the phone conversation. |
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24th June 2019, 12:25 PM | #1096 |
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Nonsense. We have smartphones that can go for 8 hours streaming video, and the biggest drain is from the screen. My cheap phone can stream music/podcasts for at least 12 hours (I usually don't have any occasion to stream longer without using the screen). I have Galaxy Buds (fully wireless earbuds) which work for 8 or so hours between charges.
Battery life is only an issue if those making the purchases want it to be an issue. As for storage, a similar principle applies. They don't need 4K 60 fps for this application and memory cards are cheap. |
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There was a video on Youtube a few months back of 4 police cars rolling up to some incident. Maintenance on cop cars is pretty poor because each driver got out and raised the hood of their car. They all broke down at the same time!
Oh, no! Wait! Apparently dash cams can't see through raised hoods. |
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24th June 2019, 06:23 PM | #1103 |
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If a cop is determined to commit a crime and not have it visually recorded by an always-on bodycam they can put a little tape or sticker over the lens.
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Am I sure that battery life and video storage are actual issues for body cameras?
Yes. Leave you iPhone recording video how long will that battery last? How big will a battery be to record for 12-16 hours continuously? Have you ever worked with video cameras storage? If you want crappy pixelated coverage for 12 hours how much storage is that, oh but you want to see what is actually happening? I wounder will it take how many ? 12 GB for HD per hour? So 16 hours is 192 GB. You want three days of storage, make that over 1/2 TB Are you downloading everyday? How often? Buy the way, where are these better cameras, are you manufacturing them? |
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I believe that the dash cams and body cams are very important!
We need more and better systems for it, which also gets to an issue in my school district. How many cameras do we need to buy so the police can get videos of events near the schools? |
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25th June 2019, 09:34 AM | #1117 |
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Yes, all reasonable human temperatures, it does just fine, how shock proof does it really need to be?
I know how bad you want to be right, but you're wrong. Like, extremely wrong. Not only can a camera be tiny, one piece, and easily record a whole shift at a reasonable video resolution, but it would be even easier and cheaper to attach a tiny CCD camera to an external battery/storage held on/in an officer's belt. Also, and this may shock you right to your core, police officers are already wearing these kinds of cameras. |
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I have, actually quite a lot. Was kind of a hobby of mine for a while, recording, recompressing, and storing videos. With h.264/AVC standard of video encoding 720p HD video looks pretty good at 2GB/hour, like hardly any noticeable compression artifacts. With the latest and greatest h.265/HEVC thats down to 1.5GB per hour. I got a dashcam for my car a few months, it'll record well over 100 hours before looping back on itself. It was around $200 which is midrange, its good enough that I can read a license plate on playback from probably 30 feet in front of me.
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