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Old Yesterday, 03:33 PM   #681
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
This isn't really a discussion anymore

Bubba isn't really arguing anything. He just posts QAnon links and quotes them at length. I didn't think it was possible to have content of lower quality than JAQing, but Bubba isn't even commenting on half the crap he posts. Probe too much into any one detail and he'll just disavow it as the source's stance and not his own. It's just a clearinghouse of Q conspiracy dispatches.
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Old Yesterday, 04:49 PM   #682
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Q followers:

Months ago Q said Trump will have Army corp engineers do the job to secure the border as a national security measure if congress will not secure the border.
And the money comes from where, exactly?
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Old Yesterday, 08:34 PM   #683
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
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Months ago Q said Trump will have Army corp engineers do the job to secure the border as a national security measure if congress will not secure the border.
Well given that those borders are over 5,000 miles - I will wish them luck given they have less than 40,000 members.

PDF size of the US land borders: https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RS21729.pdf
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Old Yesterday, 09:50 PM   #684
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
And the money comes from where, exactly?


For a matter of national security ?

You couldnt figure that out for yourself ?

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Putting up a bit of concertina wire isn't the same as building a wall.
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Old Yesterday, 10:30 PM   #686
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
For a matter of national security ?

You couldnt figure that out for yourself ?
The DOD has made it clear that the Wall is not a matter of national security.
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Old Yesterday, 11:22 PM   #687
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
For a matter of national security ?

You couldnt figure that out for yourself ?
Um, Congress handles the budget. The Treasury dulls out the specific funds.

DoD can't just appropriate materials without paying for them.

If it was really about national security they'd fast track new Coast Guard cutters.
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Old Yesterday, 11:44 PM   #688
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
Nobody cares what the free-range mentally ill are posting online.

It is now December 11. Where are all of those indictments that were supposed to drain the swamp last week?

Ooopsie


Who else incorrectly assumed the meaning of Q's D5?
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
Um, Congress handles the budget. The Treasury dulls out the specific funds.

DoD can't just appropriate materials without paying for them.

If it was really about national security they'd fast track new Coast Guard cutters.
From what I've heard, the budget that was allotted for the border has not been spent, to the detriment of equipment and personnel. It seems possible the administration is purposely underfunding the operation in order to make the wall seem more necessary.
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Old Today, 12:15 AM   #690
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said a Q follower on voat:


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Brilliant move by President Trump leaving the press in the room. Serves two purposes,1) we see exactly how the dems feel about border protection. 2) since it was live, the media can't put their spin on it. Loved Pelosi saying "We shouldn't discuss this in front of the cameras." Almost in a PANIC IN DC!

Whatever the plan, Potus is in control. He set up Chuck and Nancy and they are furious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrVDk8es3N8

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Old Today, 12:38 AM   #691
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Was he a card-carrying Q follower or just a opportunistic sympathizer?
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Old Today, 01:23 AM   #692
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Really just a delusional Trump cultist, or a Russian troll, once again insisting that Trump’s shocked look and cartoon-style smokey face are evidence of how he got someone else to smoke the exploding cigar.

SuburbanTurkey is right; Bubba’s interminable curating of “Q” posts, and “Q” fanboy posts, is even more pointless than his usual passive-aggressive crabwalk of determined gullibility towards (generously speaking) some other shiny bit of conspiracist drivel.
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Old Today, 01:48 AM   #693
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Ooopsie


Who else incorrectly assumed the meaning of Q's D5?
Just the people you've been quoting in your posts.
The ones Axxman300 was talking about.
Other than that, absolutely no-one, because no-one cares what the idiots you keep quoting say. They are delusional simpletons, and not worth the effort.
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Well, this is awkward for the Q-tee pies.
Meliana Trump in red shoes.
Bubba: is she a paedophile too?
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Well, this is awkward for the Q-tee pies.
Meliana Trump in red shoes.
Bubba: is she a paedophile too?
She did marry a man-child...
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Old Today, 07:19 AM   #696
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Just the people you've been quoting in your posts.
The ones Axxman300 was talking about.
Other than that, absolutely no-one, because no-one cares what the idiots you keep quoting say. They are delusional simpletons, and not worth the effort.
Don't be cruel. Not all of them are delusional simpletons. Some are cynical, amoral conspiracy mongers who don't believe a word of it but spread it anyway.
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Old Today, 07:39 AM   #697
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Originally Posted by Hellbound View Post
She did marry a man-child...
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Bubba's shtick here reminds of what a professional comedian told me about David Letterman's act on the Late Show - He (Letterman) tells the joke and mugs to the audience to suggest to them it was "me (Letterman) and you against the joke."
Similar to Anthony Marsh's shtick that he continually uses in his JFK discussions, "Not my theory, but..."

I've been guilty of similar things myself.

But there are some alternatives to promoting a theory or mocking it.

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Old Today, 11:29 AM   #699
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Ooopsie


Who else incorrectly assumed the meaning of Q's D5?
My bet is that it's a reference to this:

https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/n...000001276.html

At least that's what comes to mind for me when the term "D5" is mentioned.
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Old Today, 11:36 AM   #700
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Well, this is awkward for the Q-tee pies.
Meliana Trump in red shoes.
Bubba: is she a paedophile too?

Of course she is, according to your dishonest debating.

In your world, all poodle owners are serial killer cannibals, according to your "logic"

Jeffrey Dahlmer owned a poodle.
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Originally Posted by BStrong View Post
My bet is that it's a reference to this:

https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/n...000001276.html

At least that's what comes to mind for me when the term "D5" is mentioned.
Maybe it is referring to these?
Q is obviously telling people to play more D&D,

screen shot download
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Old Today, 11:50 AM   #702
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Originally Posted by Imhotep View Post
Similar to Anthony Marsh's shtick that he continually uses in his JFK discussions, "Not my theory, but..."

I've been guilty of similar things myself.

But there are some alternatives to promoting a theory or mocking it.




Perhaps among the honest rational considerate.

But never upwind of a drooling ravenous pack of pseudo skeptic fundamentalist sheep compelled by their twisted mob mentality bloodthirst to always pretend a person weighing a claim is instead making the claim.
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Old Today, 12:00 PM   #703
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Someone is thinking, at least.

Originally Posted by BStrong View Post
Quote:


Originally Posted by Bubba View Post


Ooopsie


Who else incorrectly assumed the meaning of Q's D5?


My bet is that it's a reference to this:

https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/n...000001276.html

At least that's what comes to mind for me when the term "D5" is mentioned.

Thats a very good guess....Makes sense. Try again. Its fairly common, and most appropriate in Q's game.


Q's coding does encourage thinking.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Was he a card-carrying Q follower or just a opportunistic sympathizer?

A Qopp Symp, eh?

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Well, this is awkward for the Q-tee pies...

I love it!


Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
...
Meliana Trump in red shoes.
Bubba: is she a paedophile too?

Just Hawt.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Someone is thinking, at least.




Thats a very good guess....Makes sense. Try again. Its fairly common, and most appropriate in Q's game.


Q's coding does encourage thinking.
It takes a D5 CAT to shovel away the **** that's being created by Q and passive/aggressively promoted by you.
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Originally Posted by Bubba View Post
Q's coding does encourage thinking.
In truth it is the opposite of thinking (or reasoning if you understand English).
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Well, this is awkward for the Q-tee pies.
Meliana Trump in red shoes.
Bubba: is she a paedophile too?
He's wearing a RED TIE!

OMG, this goes all the way to the top.
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Originally Posted by Imhotep View Post
Similar to Anthony Marsh's shtick that he continually uses in his JFK discussions, "Not my theory, but..."

I've been guilty of similar things myself.

But there are some alternatives to promoting a theory or mocking it.
Some theories need to be mocked.

In this thread there have been few theories posted, just links that can get you on an FBI white supremacist watch list. The posting claims and then running away when challenged.

How can you not mock such behavior?
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The passive/aggressive bit of advancing some crackpot notion through weasel-word framing, then acting outraged when people try to hold him accountable for his (for want of a better word) argument, is straight out of the Bubba playbook. I haven’t perused this thread thoroughly, so I don’t know if, or how many times, he’s tried the other one where he gets you to agree to some tangential and uncontroversial factoid or opinion, then tries to convert that into your agreement for the main claim he is regurgitating.

He’s got two or three others he cycles through endlessly, like a stream of condescending insults towards “pseudoskeptics”; that happens when he gets frustrated that people see through his routine and keep calling him on it.
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
Some theories need to be mocked.

In this thread there have been few theories posted, just links that can get you on an FBI white supremacist watch list. The posting claims and then running away when challenged.

How can you not mock such behavior?
I was generalizing. And my instinct when someone is getting dog piled is to throw them a bone at least. Oh there's a pun there.
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Originally Posted by sts60 View Post
The passive/aggressive bit of advancing some crackpot notion through weasel-word framing, then acting outraged when people try to hold him accountable for his (for want of a better word) argument, is straight out of the Bubba playbook. I haven’t perused this thread thoroughly, so I don’t know if, or how many times, he’s tried the other one where he gets you to agree to some tangential and uncontroversial factoid or opinion, then tries to convert that into your agreement for the main claim he is regurgitating.

He’s got two or three others he cycles through endlessly, like a stream of condescending insults towards “pseudoskeptics”; that happens when he gets frustrated that people see through his routine and keep calling him on it.
and still no proof he's not a paid sleeper agent.
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