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Old 10th June 2018, 10:45 AM   #1
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So let me see if I understand this correctly.

The World Trade Center was brought down on 9/11 by a combination of controlled demolition-activated thermite bombs, remote-control military jets painted in airline livery colors, and space beam holograms, the Pentagon was hit by a remote-controlled Navy cruise missile, United 93 was shot down by Dick Cheney "just because" (???) but none of the passengers on the four hijacked flights ever existed so no one actually died on any of the planes, and the Mossad and the CIA did it all on behalf of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers (along with Larry "pull it" Silverstein because of some insurance thing on WTC7) as a pretext to invade Iraq and take the oil, and also the Saudis were framed for it (or was it the Iraqis? This is a point of contention from what I understand) but Osama bin Laden was a Saudi CIA agent who went by the name "Tim Osman" (or was that his real name? JAQ!) and was set up as a fall guy for 9/11 - but who denied responsibility shortly before he died c. December 2001 and was quickly replaced by a double who made fake videotapes in which he claimed credit for the attacks.

I think that covers a decent chunk of it, but let me know if I missed anything. I'm sure I did.
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Old 10th June 2018, 02:49 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Allen773 View Post
The World Trade Center was brought down on 9/11 by a combination of controlled demolition-activated thermite bombs, remote-control military jets painted in airline livery colors, and space beam holograms, the Pentagon was hit by a remote-controlled Navy cruise missile, United 93 was shot down by Dick Cheney "just because" (???) but none of the passengers on the four hijacked flights ever existed so no one actually died on any of the planes, and the Mossad and the CIA did it all on behalf of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers (along with Larry "pull it" Silverstein because of some insurance thing on WTC7) as a pretext to invade Iraq and take the oil, and also the Saudis were framed for it (or was it the Iraqis? This is a point of contention from what I understand) but Osama bin Laden was a Saudi CIA agent who went by the name "Tim Osman" (or was that his real name? JAQ!) and was set up as a fall guy for 9/11 - but who denied responsibility shortly before he died c. December 2001 and was quickly replaced by a double who made fake videotapes in which he claimed credit for the attacks.

I think that covers a decent chunk of it, but let me know if I missed anything. I'm sure I did.

That about covers it

ETA: Oh, wait, I just noticed. The mini nukes.... you forgot the mini nukes!
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That about covers it

ETA: Oh, wait, I just noticed. The mini nukes.... you forgot the mini nukes!

Mini nukesthat make no sound, even.
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
That about covers it

ETA: Oh, wait, I just noticed. The mini nukes.... you forgot the mini nukes!
Originally Posted by Loss Leader View Post
Mini nukesthat make no sound, even.
Oh, yes, one cannot omit the mini nukes built into the buildings right back in the '70s for use 40 years later.

Do their dastardly conspiracies know no bounds? Or logic? or reason?
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...and also the Saudis were framed for it (or was it the Iraqis? This is a point of contention from what I understand) ...
The Iraqis were framed first, so the USA could screw them over, then they pretended to frame the Saudis, but actually framed Qatar. The latest is they frame Iran. To set them up for being screwed over. There is, after all, at most a 25% difference between Iraq and Iran. Who knew that it would be so difficult to tell brown people apart?
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The Iraqis were framed first?

Yes, of course they were, This is because Dubya, being the highly intelligent, brilliant student of the English language 'n'all, noticed a definite, and unmistakeable connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda that he could use as an excuse

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Remember that all the passengers who never existed are also still alive, as are the hijackers, who also never existed and were murdered.

Also, aliens. And lots of obscure stuff to do with dust.

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The air force, which was stood down, then vectored away, shot down the fourth plane, which landed safely on a secret airbase, despite not existing.
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Originally Posted by Loss Leader View Post
Mini nukesthat make no sound, even.
Hush-a-booms.
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See? It's all so obvious now, isn't it?
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Mini nukesthat make no sound, even.
And leave no radioactive residue.
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Don't forget that the WTC were actually hollow on the inside and all the paper was built into the walls or something like that.
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Don't forget that the WTC were actually hollow on the inside [...]
... while also built of solid concrete.

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I also remember asking Criteria once why the planes were needed if the buildings were rigged for demo, as obviously bombs going off would be more than enough for the country to want to take on [fill in country here], especially if those bombs were powerful enough to take down the buildings. Apparently the planes hit just for shock and awe.
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Oh, yes, one cannot omit the mini nukes built into the buildings right back in the '70s for use 40 years later.

Do their dastardly conspiracies know no bounds? Or logic? or reason?
No, no, no. The mini-nukes were strapped to pigeons and then the CGI planes were super-imposed over the top of the banzai birds. I actually read this on the Icke Forums.
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I also remember asking Criteria once why the planes were needed if the buildings were rigged for demo, as obviously bombs going off would be more than enough for the country to want to take on [fill in country here], especially if those bombs were powerful enough to take down the buildings. Apparently the planes hit just for shock and awe.
And again, of course, the same is true of the building demolitions; just the planes hitting the buildings were enough for the US to want to go to war, but the point of the demolitions was to make sure the country was really ready to go to war. It's a bit like turning off the gas cooker before you go out, but then going back five minutes later to turn it off again.

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No, no, no. The mini-nukes were strapped to pigeons and then the CGI planes were super-imposed over the top of the banzai birds. I actually read this on the Icke Forums.
Icky forums? I got a ban there for being remotely sane.
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Don’t forget that the NWO deliberately announced the fall of WTC 7 prematurely, because otherwise no one would have noticed a 47-story skyscraper collapsing in New York City. Oh, and they set fire to it and blew it up because that was an easier way to get rid of secret papers than, say, using shredders.
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... while also built of solid concrete.

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Donít forget that the NWO deliberately announced the fall of WTC 7 prematurely, because otherwise no one would have noticed a 47-story skyscraper collapsing in New York City. Oh, and they set fire to it and blew it up because that was an easier way to get rid of secret papers than, say, using shredders.
bolding is mine

This is owned by the BBC in their 'false News story' claiming that the 7 WTC had just collapsed.

Miscue?
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bolding is mine

This is owned by the BBC in their 'false News story' claiming that the 7 WTC had just collapsed.

Miscue?
Yeah, an incredibly confusing day led to some false reporting. Shocking.
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Originally Posted by Criteria View Post
bolding is mine

This is owned by the BBC in their 'false News story' claiming that the 7 WTC had just collapsed.

Miscue?
You might be surprised to learn that this thread has an actual topic, which is, suprise again, hinted at in the Openint Post. Care to help out the OP? It's about...
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The World Trade Center was brought down on 9/11 by ...
Can you finish the sentence? I.e. spell out, in a one or two paragraph summary, what and who it was that brought down the WTC towers?

That would be so swell.


And of course you won't be surprised if I told you that I fully epxect you not to give a straight and honest answer to that question or the OP. Because you never do.

Not even a funny answer. 9/11 Truthers are never funny, it occurs to me just now.
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bolding is mine

This is owned by the BBC in their 'false News story' claiming that the 7 WTC had just collapsed.

Miscue?
lol, so in the fantasy world 9/11 truth lives in, the BBC was in on it. Wow, 2018 and 9/11 truth followers can't figure out 9/11. When will 9/11 truth settle on one reality based conclusion? Never. Ask questions, and answer them.



"The World Trade Center was brought down on 9/11 by ..." A simple four letter word. Fire. What do I win? What, go cut the grass

Did fire hired Trump's team of idiotic idea deflector nuts to cover up for fire. Did Sean Hannity come up with the 9/11 truth excuses to save fire from being blamed for WTC 7 collapse.
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..... and the Mossad and the CIA did it all on behalf of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.....as a pretext to invade Iraq ......

I think that covers a decent chunk of it, but let me know if I missed anything. I'm sure I did.
You know those new glass towers in New York, Chicago, Houston?
You know that large hole in the desert between Baghdad and Mosul?
I have one word for you:
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.... 9/11 Truthers are never funny, it occurs to me just now.
It is a consequence of the limited reasoning skill that most truthers suffer from and what pre-set most of them to become CTs. (CTs because truthers are nothing more than the sub set of CTs who "chose' 9/11 as their topic.)

I've stated it with more rigour on previous occasions but - put simply - they (most of them) cannot handle multiple factor complexities OR meta-process debate.

And "joking" or humour or sarcasm or analogy or....any figurative use of language all require the ability to see two subjects at once. And appreciate the juxtaposition.
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lol, so in the fantasy world 9/11 truth lives in, the BBC was in on it. Wow, 2018 and 9/11 truth followers can't figure out 9/11. When will 9/11 truth settle on one reality based conclusion? Never. Ask questions, and answer them.
We have a similar state of affairs in the JFK forum - two posters from CT fantasyworld, both with conflicting and contradictory ideas, both being ever so careful not to step on each other's toes!

Fascinating and highly entertaining to watch.
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Not even a funny answer. 9/11 Truthers are never funny, it occurs to me just now.
Oh, they're occasionally a source of (unintentional) humour!
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Being in the Pentagon on 9/11 one of my personal “favorites” I don’t see mentioned is that that the “well known air defense system mounted on the Pentagon” was either turned off or didn’t detect an attacking aircraft so didn’t deploy. The other was the notion that not only no one died on the aircraft but the ground deaths in the buildings including the Pentagon were fake.
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Donít forget that the NWO deliberately announced the fall of WTC 7 prematurely, because otherwise no one would have noticed a 47-story skyscraper collapsing in New York City. Oh, and they set fire to it and blew it up because that was an easier way to get rid of secret papers than, say, using shredders.
They also told all the Jews in advance, so they knew not to come in to work that day.
Being Ebil Joos, of course, none of them told any of their colleagues: they just sat at home and watched everyone they worked with being killed, because Jews.
Oh, apart from the dancing ones. Have we mentioned the Dancing Israelis yet?
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With 4 inch rebar on 3 foot centers...
That's actually quite realistice.

The rebar guides the directed energy weapons, no?
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Almost, Hoss.
The rebar actually served as a waveguide for the subetheric signal to the Deathstar that the time for invasion is nigh.

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Here, I think I've summarized what really happened pretty well. Have a look:

The World Trade Center Twin Towers were brought down on 9/11 by a combination of controlled demolition-activated hush-a-boom thermite explosive mini-nuke bombs, pod carrying remote-control military jets painted in airline livery colors, and space beams that can turn 110 story buildings to dust but only mildly singe cars . The planes were needed even though they were actually holographic projections and the buildings were rigged for demo, as obviously bombs going off wouldn't be more than enough for the country to want to take on [fill in country here], especially if those bombs were powerful enough to take down the buildings. Apparently the planes hit just for shock and awe. The steel which was turned to dust was then quickly sold (2 years later) to our bestest buddies and closest allies, the Chinese to "hide the evidence"

Don’t forget that the NWO deliberately issued a press release about the secret demolition of Building 7 prematurely, because otherwise no one would have noticed a 47-story skyscraper collapsing in New York City. Oh, and they set fire to it and blew it up because that was an easier way to get rid of secret papers than, say, using paper shredders.

The Pentagon was hit by a remote-controlled Navy cruise missile, which witnesses described as an American Airlines B757. The building was hit in both renovated and unrenovated sections because either is equally suspicious and all of it was done to hide from the American public a missing $2.3 trillion that had been announced publicly the day before.

United 93 was shot down by Dick Cheney "just because" (???) , by the US Air Force, which was stood down, then vectored away, but then shot it down, so it could safely land on a secret airbase, despite the flight not existing.

None of the passengers on the four hijacked flights ever existed so no one actually died on any of the planes, except all the passengers who never existed are also still alive, as are the hijackers, who also never existed and were murdered.

The Mossad and the CIA did all of it on behalf of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers (along with Larry "pull it" Silverstein because of some insurance thing on a building that wasn't even targeted) as a pretext to invade Iraq and take the oil, most of which then went to China, and also the Saudis were framed for it (or was it the Iraqis? This is a point of contention from what I understand) but Osama bin Laden was a Saudi CIA agent who went by the name "Tim Osman" (or was that his real name?) and was set up as a fall guy for 9/11 - but who denied responsibility shortly before he died c. December 2001 and was quickly replaced by a double who made fake videotapes in which he claimed credit for the attacks.

Wow, when put that way it all seems so obvious!
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Don't forget the towers were hollow and there were no people inside... dummies were ejected out of the building and fake smoke bombs were used because there was no fire.
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Old 15th June 2018, 11:03 AM   #34
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With some additional input from Ed Current I've come up with an enhanced and refined synopsis of the 9/11 plot.

Because I am an excellent online investigator, after hours of extensive Google searching and watching anonymous Youtube videos I think I've managed to summarize exactly what really happened on 9/11/2001 pretty well. Have a look:

The World Trade Center Twin Towers were brought down on 9/11 by a combination of controlled demolition-activated hush-a-boom thermite explosive mini-nuke bombs, pod carrying remote-control military jets painted in airline livery colors, which were actually holograms, and space based energy beams that can turn 110 story buildings to dust but only mildly singe cars. The holographically projected switched military planes were needed even though the buildings were rigged for demolition and dustifying by space beams, as obviously bombs big enough to take down the towers wouldn't be more than enough for the country to want go to war with Iraq. So they needed holographic military planes that looked like airliners hijacked by Saudi’s to create the shock and awe to go to war with Iraq.

ALL of the steel of the Twin Towers was turned to dust. Some sections of dustified steel weighing up to 10 tons were laterally projected by explosive thermite incendiary hush-a-booms up to 600 feet from the towers, then miraculously landed neatly back in the towers own footprint.

The demolition professionals who cut up the dustified and molten steel beams at Ground Zero, and the demolition professionals that inspected the dustified and molten steel beams at Staten Island, completely missed all the detcord still wrapped around the columns and unexploded demolition charges still drilled into the columns before they quickly, 2 years later, sold those dustified steel beams to our bestest buddies and closest allies, the Chinese, to "hide the evidence".

The demolition professionals who cut up the dustified steel at Ground Zero, and the demolition professionals that inspected the dustified steel at Staten Island, didn't notice the det cord still wrapped around the columns and unexploded demolition charges still drilled into the columns before they sold that steel to China.

The NWO deliberately issued a press release prematurely about the secret demolition of Building 7 because otherwise no one would have noticed a 47-story skyscraper collapsing in New York City and the plot would have completely failed it no one noticed this unknown and unimportant building falling down. Jew Larry Silverstein ordered the fire department to set fire to it AND blow it up because that was an easier way to get rid of secret papers than, say, using paper shredders so Lucky Larry could recoup about half his losses and rebuilding costs in insurance payouts.

Removing the interior of a building before severing the perimeter columns — as NIST admits occurred in Building 7 — is a classic demolition "implosion" technique which is why in Building 7 all 82 columns (perimeter + core) were removed simultaneously to create a symmetrical uniform collapse at free-fall speed, which is irrefutable proof of a controlled demolition because in a controlled demolition all columns on all floors are cut on all floors at the same time so there is zero resistance. The 6.5 second free fall collapse took over 20 seconds. The Twin Towers collapsed at NEAR free-fall speed indicating resistance, which oddly enough, is also irrefutable proof of controlled demolition.

Building 7 debris was quickly hauled away. Building 7 was a crime scene that should have been preserved with yellow police tape for years and years. No one died in Building 7 even though Barry Jennings did say that he stepped over bodies in there. But that's not why it was a crime scene. It was a crime scene because it didn't collapse in the manner I imagine it should have collapsed after hours of watching Youtube videos as I sit here in my underwear.

The Pentagon was hit by a remote-controlled Navy cruise missile, painted to look like an American Airlines B757 so none of the hundreds of witnesses would notice the obvious size and shape difference. The missile that hit the Pentagon was filled with scrap metal from a 757, flight recorders with pre-taped fake information, and "passenger DNA" to trick the gullible un-enlightened sheeple who blindly believe the official story. The Pentagon was hit in both renovated and un-renovated sections because either is equally suspicious. All of it was done by Larry Silverstein to keep the public from learning about the $2.3 trillion missing from the Pentagon budget which had been announced to public the day before.

United 93 was shot down by Dick Cheney "just because" by the US Air Force, even though the fighters were stood down, then vectored away, so it could safely land on a secret airbase, despite the flight not existing.

None of the passengers on the four hijacked flights ever existed so no one actually died on any of the planes, except all the passengers who never existed are also all still alive, as are the hijackers, who also never existed and were murdered.

The Mossad and the CIA did all of it on behalf of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers (along with Larry "pull it" Silverstein because of some insurance thing on a building that wasn't even targeted) as a pretext to invade Iraq and take the oil, most of which then went to China, and also the Saudis were framed for it (or was it the Iraqis? This is a point of contention from what I understand) but Osama bin Laden was a Saudi CIA agent who went by the name "Tim Osman" (or was that his real name?) and was set up as a fall guy for 9/11 - but who denied responsibility shortly before he died c. December 2001 and was quickly replaced by a double who made fake videotapes in which he claimed credit for the attacks.

The "directed weapons" people are agents provocateur installed by the government (or Israel) to delegitimize the no-planers, who were installed to delegitimize the people who say the Twin Towers were demo'd, which were installed to delegitimize those who say WTC7 was demo'd.

Wow, when put that way it all seems so obvious!
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Don't forget the 1.8 million ceiling tiles with embedded thin-film explosive and 2-channel wireless micro-detonator.
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And a bunch of JASSM missiles were fired from an adjacent building in order to create a plane-shaped hole.

Gosh, it's so hard to keep up.
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Mark, you forgot the missing jolt which proves CD even after it's been demonstrated that it wasn't actually missing, which also proves CD.

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Originally Posted by Brainster View Post
Don't forget the 1.8 million ceiling tiles with embedded thin-film explosive and 2-channel wireless micro-detonator.
I was going to got there but........................
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Originally Posted by Dave Rogers View Post
Mark, you forgot the missing jolt which proves CD even after it's been demonstrated that it wasn't actually missing, which also proves CD.

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Best not go there because there is still some confusion. The Jolt that wasn't missing wasn't missing because it never could have been - the scenario never existed.

Despite a whole collection of other jolts which always were there for anyone to find EXCEPT they weren't the type of jolt that was allegedly missing.

Score that confusion as one of T Szamboti's wins - he has had several which he is rarely given credit for because they slip under the radar.
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Don't forget the 1.8 million ceiling tiles with embedded thin-film explosive and 2-channel wireless micro-detonator.
I don't want to click on the link and read what's on the other end because I feel sure it will insult my brain, but really? Exploding ceiling tiles?

Please tell me this is a poe!
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