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Old 6th June 2019, 05:46 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by Belz... View Post
It's really a sad demonstration of tribalism when someone accuses their political opponents of being the sole people who engage in activities that are ubiquitous to human existence.
Those goddamn Whigs. Always occupying space and having mass and converting oxygen into CO2 and increasing the entropy of the universe and following Newton's Laws of Motion.

I bet some of them are even digesting food right now and having their pancreases produce insulin.
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Old 6th June 2019, 05:52 AM   #42
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Fake clean-ups!
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Old 6th June 2019, 06:18 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
I can confirm that. Our back garden currently looks like a jungle.
Is that you? When I passed I thought it was protest.

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Originally Posted by IsThisTheLife View Post
I was going to make a prediction about this the day before these indolent wastes-of-space had their little street-party "protest march".

They're always the same, where ever and whenever they're given the chance to get away with this **** - turn a locale into a shambles and expecting someone else to bear the cost of clearing up after them.

But hey, it's 'make work' overtime for the local council workers, isn't? Creative destruction! Socialism in action!
You were going to predict "Litter After Large Demonstration"? Man that's some prescience you've got there! Do you also foresee humidity in New Orleans in August? Trump calling something "Fake News"? We've got to channel that ability.

Here's what I foresaw, and I was wrong.... That someone would come along and show what biased silliness this thread and its willing participants are part of.

Special crews taken on to clean up after those Antifa radicals and libtards celebrate QEII's Diamond Jubilee:

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-te...ip%3d0%26pl%3d

Libtards always leave behind massive amounts of trash on Everest.
https://www.klix.ba/vijesti/svijet/p...esta/130530006

And my personal favorite.... MAGA crowd debris from a Trump Rally in Missouri.
https://www.kfvs12.com/2018/11/06/cr...-trumps-rally/



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Old 6th June 2019, 06:50 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
I know. It's supposed to be a pro-Trump "gotcha" but it's pretty weak sauce.

What does the scene of a Trump rally look like after it's over and all the people leave? Think they leave any litter behind?
Ohhhh, that's why this is threadworthy.

I'm a little slow with this stuff sometimes.

Come now, are the Trump supporters really trying to paint this as a liberal thing? Any time there is a big rally or meeting or public event, in almost any city anywhere, excessive litter follows the event. You should see the streets of Pittsburgh after - well, anything really. We have this little parade every year in South Side on the Ides of March where people carry signs saying "BEWARE" and march around chanting silliness. Literally no political factor, unless there's a few people who are still offended by the betrayal of Caesar. And yet, check out Carson St. the following day. It looks like the Rapture happened and everyone left their "BEWARE" signs behind.

You should have seen the mess the Duquesne Young Republicans can generate.

Honestly, this is silly. Littering is awful and lazy and gross, in my opinion, but all large groups of people seem to do it, regardless of their original reason for getting together or what their signs say.

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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Litter in Trafalgar Square? Nelson tries to keep it clean but with such a big job he could use a hand.
He still keeps an eye on it...
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Is that you? When I passed I thought it was protest.

We don't want to annoy the bees - they seem to be enjoying the borage too much.
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Trash including discarded signs littered the square in messy heaps. The area looked like a dump. Reading the signs I read "Stop Trump" what exactly do people want Trump to stop doing?
They want him to stop making people throw trash on the street.
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It's really a sad demonstration of tribalism when someone accuses their political opponents of being the sole people who engage in activities that are ubiquitous to human existence.
It's not an "accusation", it's an observation. These people are utter ******* slobs, whether congenitally or by upbringing.
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Protesters: "Stop Trump, he's destroying the planet!"
Protesters and their trash: "Not my problem!"
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Wow. Some serious Pearl-Clutching coming from the Trump Defense Squad here.

Seriously, the best you can come up with is some "Your s*** stinks, but somehow ours doesn't!" routine?
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Old 6th June 2019, 12:40 PM   #52
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Wow. Some serious Pearl-Clutching coming from the Trump Defense Squad here.

Seriously, the best you can come up with is some "Your s*** stinks, but somehow ours doesn't!" routine?
It's never occurred to you that not everyone who despises liberals and "progressives" (and Hillary Clinton) is a "Trump defender", has it?
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Fellow travelers, mate, fellow travelers. If you walk in the sewer are you surprised that your shoes stink afterwards?
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Fellow travelers, mate, fellow travelers. If you walk in the sewer are you surprised that your shoes stink afterwards?
I'm not sure this metaphor makes much sense. The way I read it, you're acknowledging that he's not necessarily a Trump supporter, but you're going to treat him like one anyway, just because he happens to be on a different part of the political spectrum.

You can choose not to treat him as "stinky", based on a fair assessment of his positions, any time you want.
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I was going to make a prediction about this the day before these indolent wastes-of-space had their little street-party "protest march".

They're always the same, where ever and whenever they're given the chance to get away with this **** - turn a locale into a shambles and expecting someone else to bear the cost of clearing up after them.

But hey, it's 'make work' overtime for the local council workers, isn't? Creative destruction! Socialism in action!
Any gathering of a large crowd of people will leave stewards and cleaners a lot to clear up. I'll bet even Donald Trump rallies have huge piles of debris left in their wake.

Hey, keeps the cleaning staff and street cleaners in a job.
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Well, the Daily Mail is biased because they didn't take any photos of the piles of litter discarded by Trump supporters.

Nice one.
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Ah, the Revolutionary Communist Group. The first four words on that banner are actually the name of their "newspaper," complete with exclamation marks after each -ism.
An M15 front, no doubt, like Combat18.
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Those goddamn Whigs. Always occupying space and having mass and converting oxygen into CO2 and increasing the entropy of the universe and following Newton's Laws of Motion.

I bet some of them are even digesting food right now and having their pancreases produce insulin.
Some of the 'eco warriors', according to the DAILY MAIL, even have the audacity to have rich parents, the bloody bastards. One even travelled all the way from France, causing air pollution in so doing (it wrote).
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This whole bit of conservatives concerning trolling over litter after protests is just their way of saying "how dare you protest!" and trying to come up with excuses as to why the Right of Assembly is being abused, somehow.

Honestly, I doubt they really give a crap about the cities being littered upon (they've been cutting Federal and State budget aid to cities since the Reagan Administration). So since I've been seeing Tea Partiers wring their hands with concern about litter on city streets I take it as fake tears and excuse to try and play in imbalanced game of trash Olympics (the biggest such claim was that the Tea Party rallies of 2009 produced less trash than the Obama Inauguration, but this fell apart when it was shown the claims of 2 million Tea Partiers were just 70,000 protesters who were around for just 4 hours.)

So when someone wrings their hands about protest trash in the city, be they Trump Defender or merely an off-the-shelf Lib'rul Hater, I find my eyes rolling. Hence why I first though this thread was a parody. Its a game they've played before.

And the game is that they don't want you out there protesting.
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It's not an "accusation", it's an observation. These people are utter ******* slobs, whether congenitally or by upbringing.
Are you aware that all large gatherings of people will generate litter?
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This whole bit of conservatives concerning trolling over litter after protests is just their way of saying "how dare you protest!" and trying to come up with excuses as to why the Right of Assembly is being abused, somehow.

Honestly, I doubt they really give a crap about the cities being littered upon (they've been cutting Federal and State budget aid to cities since the Reagan Administration). So since I've been seeing Tea Partiers wring their hands with concern about litter on city streets I take it as fake tears and excuse to try and play in imbalanced game of trash Olympics (the biggest such claim was that the Tea Party rallies of 2009 produced less trash than the Obama Inauguration, but this fell apart when it was shown the claims of 2 million Tea Partiers were just 70,000 protesters who were around for just 4 hours.)

So when someone wrings their hands about protest trash in the city, be they Trump Defender or merely an off-the-shelf Lib'rul Hater, I find my eyes rolling. Hence why I first though this thread was a parody. Its a game they've played before.

And the game is that they don't want you out there protesting.
Judge not, lest ye be judged. Point out hypocrisy, expect to be called a hypocrite. Only those who are perfect, infallible, and free of any hypocrisy of any kind can speak up. That's the game human kind is so prone to play unfortunately. Just as unfortunate as it is to attempt to politicize litter in order to score points. Even I am guilty of saying something rather than coming up with solutions.

Perhaps the Trumpers should have pointed it out and offerred to help clean up. Perhaps ant-Trumpers should be called out their comrades and ensuring future protests are trash-free. The people near the middle on both sides are likely reasonable people and willing to be reasonable with eachother.
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All demonstrations and protests leave behind trash. This is from a Woman's March.
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys View Post
Judge not, lest ye be judged. Point out hypocrisy, expect to be called a hypocrite. Only those who are perfect, infallible, and free of any hypocrisy of any kind can speak up. That's the game human kind is so prone to play unfortunately. Just as unfortunate as it is to attempt to politicize litter in order to score points. Even I am guilty of saying something rather than coming up with solutions.

Perhaps the Trumpers should have pointed it out and offerred to help clean up. Perhaps ant-Trumpers should be called out their comrades and ensuring future protests are trash-free. The people near the middle on both sides are likely reasonable people and willing to be reasonable with eachother.
There is also the basic fact that most Municipalities are actually quite effective at cleaning up the messes that crowds cause. It can take time, but in most cases the trash left by a protest pales in comparison to a non-protest gathering. Sports victory parades are a HUGE mess-maker. The only advantage in those cases is that the city knows a bit more ahead of time.

Certainly, any protesting group could do a better job cleaning up after themselves, there is almost always room for improvement. At the same time, anyone can post a cropped photo of trash after a protest and go into shirt-rending paroxysms with demands that the protesters be condemned to sackcloths and ashes. I'd prefer more of the former, but the latter gets tribe points.
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys View Post
Judge not, lest ye be judged. Point out hypocrisy, expect to be called a hypocrite. Only those who are perfect, infallible, and free of any hypocrisy of any kind can speak up. That's the game human kind is so prone to play unfortunately. Just as unfortunate as it is to attempt to politicize litter in order to score points. Even I am guilty of saying something rather than coming up with solutions.

Perhaps the Trumpers should have pointed it out and offerred to help clean up. Perhaps ant-Trumpers should be called out their comrades and ensuring future protests are trash-free. The people near the middle on both sides are likely reasonable people and willing to be reasonable with eachother.
Judging from William Parchers previous pic from yesterday, maybe, they just need more communists.
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I heard that some of these so-called "environmentalists" actually exhale carbon dioxide!
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And after a Trump protest.
And after a music festival.

Large groups of people leave litter. They just do. The reason for the large group is irrelevant.
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Judge not, lest ye be judged. Point out hypocrisy, expect to be called a hypocrite. Only those who are perfect, infallible, and free of any hypocrisy of any kind can speak up. That's the game human kind is so prone to play unfortunately. Just as unfortunate as it is to attempt to politicize litter in order to score points. Even I am guilty of saying something rather than coming up with solutions.

Perhaps the Trumpers should have pointed it out and offerred to help clean up. Perhaps ant-Trumpers should be called out their comrades and ensuring future protests are trash-free. The people near the middle on both sides are likely reasonable people and willing to be reasonable with eachother.
What a strange topic to stake out the middle ground on. Fools being trolled by the Daily Mail. Bigger fools embroidering it into disparaging comments about the protesters.

This was in England. Do you think we should've flown Trumpistas in from Whitebread Creek, Montana? There are people circulating in any demonstration (right, left, moderate*) admonishing demonstrators to clean up after themselves, quoting Mark Trail, "You carried it in? You carry it out!"

Sorry, there's no middle ground here. People making up **** and trolling the internet is not an area in which I plan to work out a compromise.

*Moderate demonstrations are rather rare. "We can't make up our minds!" doesn't make a great chant and their natural sympathizers can't make up their minds whether to attend.
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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys View Post
Judge not, lest ye be judged. Point out hypocrisy, expect to be called a hypocrite.


And this is the other side of the "Protest Trash" coin: They're saying if the anti-Trumpers are hypocrites, it makes it okay if the Trumpers are hypocrites.


Of course, there's a small degree of difference between people who want to protect the environment littering, and say, people who claim they want to "protect women" calling them sluts for being raped.


If littering is the worst sin these guys can pin on the anti-Trumpers and other protesters, that's actually pretty good.
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It's not an "accusation", it's an observation. These people are utter ******* slobs, whether congenitally or by upbringing.
I presume you're talking about the people who leave messes behind at Trump rallies, in which case tell us something we don't already know.
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It's not an "accusation", it's an observation. These people are utter ******* slobs, whether congenitally or by upbringing.
"These people" as in these particular demonstrators, or - more accurately - demonstrators in general? You can also throw in various other public events, music festivals, etc. This isn't something unique to your bÍte de jour.
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When the Pittsburgh Penguins won the Stanley cup a few years back, there were literal riots in the city. I was in my office at my old job catching up on work all night. I finished up around dawn. When I stepped outside, for just a moment, I was actually alarmed. The streets looked like the apocalypse had happened. Trash everywhere, huge city garbage cans knocked over, a few cars covered in shaving cream (?), smashed bottles, a few leftover drunks staggering through the streets.

It was like your usual Saturday or Sunday morning to the 20th power. Because "our" team WON. Happy riots are a thing, and they are messy.

Here's another event known for temporarily turning Steel City into Thunderdome - https://archive.triblive.com/local/p...-2013-concert/. Every time Kenny Chesney comes to town, his fans essentially turn the North Side into a landfill. Not many communists among them...


I could go on all day. This is just so silly. Trash is not a partisan issue.
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Old 9th June 2019, 10:23 AM   #74
P.J. Denyer
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Originally Posted by I Am The Scum View Post
Are you aware that all large gatherings of people will generate litter?
It's been a while since I was involved in a protest, but it occurs to me that the piles of discarded placards might be by design, I can't see London Transport wanting everyone getting on busses and tubes with them.
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