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19th April 2018, 01:01 PM | #3081 |
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19th April 2018, 01:21 PM | #3082 |
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I've said it before and I say it again. I don't understand this discussion about the NDA.
Didn't she already talk about it? On 60 Minutes? As far as Stormy Daniels goes, I think the story is pretty straightforward 1) Pretty much everyone agrees that she had a fling with Trump 2) Trump supporters don't care The significance of either statement is a different matter. |
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19th April 2018, 01:33 PM | #3083 |
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19th April 2018, 01:57 PM | #3086 |
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What does it matter? At least to me.
Maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. If there was a legitimate NDA, maybe she does. But I don't care. It doesn't change the facts that 1) she had a fling with Trump, and 2) his supporters don't care that he had a fling with a porn star and tried to cover it up with hush money |
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19th April 2018, 02:10 PM | #3087 |
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19th April 2018, 04:17 PM | #3088 |
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Why does it matter to you whether or not she owes $20 mil? Do you have a personal stake in her finances? Are you really that concerned that she will go bankrupt? Why? There are thousands of people who can go bankrupt at any point. Are you just as concerned about them?
Suppose she does end up having to pay $20 mil? And? Suppose she doesn't have to pay. And? Why all this pearl clutching over the finances of a porn star? |
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19th April 2018, 04:25 PM | #3089 |
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I think the reason it matters, to all of us, is whether a rich politician can crush someone financially for speaking out on a question that is in the public interest. Can someone running for president, or serving as president, create a binding agreement to keep that sort of business away from public view?
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19th April 2018, 04:31 PM | #3090 |
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That's what the case is about. According to the terms spelled out in the NDA there is a $1 million dollar penalty per violation. Cohen has said Ms Daniels has violated the contract 20 times.so that is his argument for $20 million dollars. Me Daniels and her lawyer are arguing that the contract isn't valid and they don't owe anything. They have also counter-sued for defamation.
This is where we stand. |
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It isn't just a matter of what she knows or has any evidence of. It is also about what could get uncovered by sworn testimony in depositions and in court, and the stuff that gets turned over during discovery. Cohen (And Trump. I don't believe for a second that he's not complicit in every move Cohen makes. That isn't his style. He could never resist an opportunity to gloat over bullying someone.) miscalculated in thinking that his normal strategy of threats and bluster would keep this one under wraps. He's accustomed to being able to roll over weaker and less wealthy victims. I doubt he expected this to go as far as it has, but that distance has as much to do with his overestimating his own powers of intimidation as it does with anything Stormy Daniels has done. Now he gets to find out what a real courtroom is like, facing people whose resources are at least the equal of his. He's on the other end now. He isn't used to that and he's flailing around. Expect even more mistakes. |
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19th April 2018, 06:19 PM | #3094 |
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That's a really good description.
I know TBD makes fun of him but I'm convinced that Avenatti made some calculations and probably got a Trump enemy to cover any downside for Stormy and then had a ball at Trump's expense. This is the case they couldn't lose even if they eventually lost. |
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20th April 2018, 03:38 AM | #3099 |
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As I understand from the discussion here, Trump could only ever get actual damages, not punitive damages, for any disclosure of Stormy about their affair. With Trump's history of marital infidelity, I doubt anyone would give him even a dime for the disclosure of yet another.
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You obviously don't understand what 'publicity' is.
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You can't spend publicity.
It can however, make what you do (in this case climbing poles), more known to a wider audience. Which allows you to charge more/fill bigger venues/make more money. I'm surprised you need it explaining. |
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ps I'm sure Mr Avenatti will be somewhat more in demand as a lawyer than Mr Cohen.
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And you are privy to her income how?
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Daniels has said that she's now earning 4 times what she was.
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Don't confuse logger with actual facts. It might confuse him.
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Just Google and type in: stormy daniels earning 4 times
Look at links, I chose Forbes https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewi.../#5972992b290f Now remember that is FAKE NEWS because it contradicts what you said and mean that Forbes is a part of the LYING LIBERAL NEWS. And that I chose Forbes this means that I am a LYING LIBERAL. |
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...y-daniels.html
"In January, she ended her long run as a contract director with Wicked Pictures and signed a new deal with Digital Playground. She’s also launched the “Make America Horny Again” tour and become hugely popular on Pornhub. “I would be a *********** idiot to turn it down,” she told Rolling Stone about the lucrative offers coming her way. “We live in a capitalist society. I think if anyone, in any field, was approached and someone said, ‘Hi! You know that job you are already doing? Would you like to do it next week for quadruple your normal pay?’ Show me one person who would say no.” Reading the rest of the article, you can't not have respect for her, even if you find the porn industry a bit icky. She appears to have been very successful in her chosen field. |
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I find the legal case of her NDA interesting.
I think Trump is lying about being Dennison, and I am hopeful this case can prove him a clear liar. I hope both trump and cohen get in legal trouble for this payment, in some way shape or form - if it can possibly **** trump over, even in the littlest way, I'm all for it. WTF ? What kind of weird standard is this for taking an interest in something ? The most "pearl clutching" I see in this thread is your post. Unless you want to point out which posts you find to be evidence of "pearl clutching"? Is this argument some kind of virtue signalling or something ? |
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...s-case-n867761
U.S. District Judge James Otero is set to hear arguments Friday morning about whether to delay Stormy Daniels' case after FBI agents raided the office and residence of Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, seeking records about a nondisclosure agreement Daniels signed days before the 2016 presidential election. |
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In addition, saw this :
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018...-with-the-feds Indeed, Avenatti is now alleging that he has evidence of bank fraud involving Michael Cohen, which he has almost certainly shared with the F.B.I. And the F.B.I. may soon respond in kind: “We expect to have access to at least some of what was seized at some point in the near future,” he added. (The Department of Justice declined comment.) And what might that yield? Avenatti’s preferred scenario is that it would cough up proof that Trump not only knew about Cohen’s payments to Daniels and other women, but compensated Cohen from campaign funds. But he believes the true smoking gun is a so-called Suspicious Activities Report (S.A.R.) reportedly created by the Treasury Department earlier this year after a bank is reported to have flagged Cohen’s account for dubious transactions. (The Treasury Department and First Republic Bank did not provide a comment to The Wall Street Journal, which broke the story, while Cohen called it “fake news.”) “That is a critical document at this juncture of the case,” said Avenatti. If such a report existed it could very well describe a narrative of events in which monies were moved from bank account to bank account in an effort to cover up campaign payments to Trump’s alleged mistresses. “The importance of that document cannot be overstated,” he said. And that all stemmed from this NDA. Pretty ****ign important, imho. |
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What it looks like to me is that Ms. Daniels has a story that would probably sell nicely, but she can't close the book deal or whatever until the NDA issue is cleared up. I don't blame her, either. It's a juicy story, and she's right to want to cash in. She just has to wrap up the legal wrangling over whether she's actually allowed to tell that story.
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