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Old 2nd November 2021, 01:54 PM   #1
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Skeptical Inquirer Presents -- David Copperfield

David Copperfield Brings the Magic to Skeptical Inquirer Presents, Nov. 11

https://centerforinquiry.org/news/da...esents-nov-11/

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In his new book, David Copperfield’s History of Magic, Copperfield profiles twenty-eight of the world’s most groundbreaking magicians; from the sixteenth-century magistrate who wrote the first book on conjuring to the roaring twenties and the man who fooled Houdini, to the woman who levitated, vanished, and caught bullets in her teeth.

Join Copperfield, fellow magician and skeptic Richard Wiseman, and host Leighann Lord for this live online event taking us on a wild journey through the remarkable feats of the greatest magicians in history.
Will he reveal all?
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Old 2nd November 2021, 03:05 PM   #2
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They had a great interview on a recent Skeptic's Guide to the Universe podcast as well.
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Old 2nd November 2021, 04:22 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
They had a great interview on a recent Skeptic's Guide to the Universe podcast as well.
Thanks. I'll check that out. I've always thought Copperfield was a bit coy about what he was doing.
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Old 3rd November 2021, 12:29 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
Will he reveal all?
No, he won't.
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Old 3rd November 2021, 08:27 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
No, he won't.
I was just applying Betteridge's Law.
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
I was just applying Betteridge's Law.
Ah gotcha. I said that he wouldn't because he said that he wouldn't in the SGU interview. In fact, skirting the border of what can and can't be told was one of the key challenges of the book.
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Old 4th November 2021, 07:32 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Ah gotcha. I said that he wouldn't because he said that he wouldn't in the SGU interview. In fact, skirting the border of what can and can't be told was one of the key challenges of the book.
I do wonder if someone should inform magicians about something called "the internet" and "Google".

The idea that they have to keep "secrets" was part of the mystique but that's been over for a good 25 years now.
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Old 4th November 2021, 08:10 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
I do wonder if someone should inform magicians about something called "the internet" and "Google".

The idea that they have to keep "secrets" was part of the mystique but that's been over for a good 25 years now.
As someone who follows magic in a semi-interested way, it appears that there are still some few tricks that do not have explanations for us lay people. (And, if you are going to asks for examples, I'm not allowed to tell you.)

As Penn says (and to which Teller would agree if he could speak), "Just when you think we have expanded it to you, take a look at this."
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
I do wonder if someone should inform magicians about something called "the internet" and "Google".

The idea that they have to keep "secrets" was part of the mystique but that's been over for a good 25 years now.
Another thing that Penn said when I saw them at TAM is that they have seen a dozen different explanations on the internet of how they do the bullet catch, and they were all wrong.
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
As Penn says (and to which Teller would agree if he could speak)...
Teller speaks. Just not when he's in character.
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Another thing that Penn said when I saw them at TAM is that they have seen a dozen different explanations on the internet of how they do the bullet catch, and they were all wrong.
Wouldn't it be in his best interest to say that regardless?
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Teller speaks. Just not when he's in character.
He does speak in character. I've seen and heard him speak to audience members during a live show, as part of the act. Couldn't tell you what he said, though, since it was pitched directly to that member of the audience, and was unintelligible more than a few seats away.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Wouldn't it be in his best interest to say that regardless?
Probably, but I have no reason not to believe him. They are scrupulously honest. There were apparently four times during their show that they outright lied to the audience, and they felt really bad about it and were working on removing them from the routines. I believe that one of those times was where they said that their nailgun trick was a memory routine, but of course I have no confirmation of that.
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Old 4th November 2021, 07:41 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Teller speaks. Just not when he's in character.
Oh come on. I know that. I've spoken to him (and he has replied).
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
No, he won't.
I watched the event live and you were right.

Nothing was revealed. It was otherwise an amusing hour with him, Richard Wiseman and the very good host who was really human and kept things flowing. I did stagger off and buy his new book while they were talking. It will be a good Christmas gift for someone in my family who likes magic almost as much as I do. After I have read it, of course.

It's supposed to show up on the CFI website shortly.
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I do wonder if someone should inform magicians about something called "the internet" and "Google".

The idea that they have to keep "secrets" was part of the mystique but that's been over for a good 25 years now.
At times you don't seem to get the idea that part of the fun of watching magic is being fooled, and wondering how you were fooled.
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Since this thread has been revived, I can report that I did buy David Copperfield's History of Magic. It's a nice "coffee table" book and otherwise a quick read about magician from history that Copperfield thinks were inventive; illustrated with lots of pictures from his museum.
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
Since this thread has been revived, I can report that I did buy David Copperfield's History of Magic. It's a nice "coffee table" book and otherwise a quick read about magician from history that Copperfield thinks were inventive; illustrated with lots of pictures from his museum.
I've got a copy of James Randi's The Conjurers signed by him because I once referred someone to this forum using the link on the User CP. It's another nice coffee-table history of magic.
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