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Because as I told you, I'm not that vested in this, and it was a spontaneous decision to make a detour to have a look. The only reason I brought it up was because Resume asked me specifically why I thought the whole thing was a lie and that's my anecdotal story, for what it's worth.
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How hard could that be to provide....a simple screen shot of the area off google earth would have been easy to provide long ago in the conversation.
A specific location on a 1.8 mllion acre/multi-state NF is no pop in, you had to know exactly where you were going. Your dodging, dismissive nature is making me very skeptical of your claim. |
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Ah yes....don't forget the cougar story. I think it went something like "oh yeah by the way I saw a cougar attack a deer on the SC coast.....nah didn't report it to the police....had to go out of town the next day"
The most interesting component to these type of stories is how vague they are upon initial presentation. Knowing full well they will be challenged....it conspicuously allows for a tremendous amount of detail to be metered out as the challenges to the story are brought. It would almost appear as if the story was being made up as it plays out. It's certainly how this one and the cougar story have played out! |
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Sure, go ahead. First off, I have no idea how to do a google earth snap shot, second, no pic or snap shot proves anything. I told you where I was, that's the best I can do, sorry. Take it or leave it.
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#3452 |
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It's a housecat.
http://www.islandpacket.com/news/loc...100805727.html There aren't any cougars in South Carolina and that's why they don't show up on game cameras there. |
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Nope there's no way you can prove your story is not a complete fabrication, but you certainly could provide some detailed information that would support you ever being in Qutachia NF. But your postion is nothing new for you or your baseless claims.
So how did you figure out where you were going, did you drive across the country using a paper map? |
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Upon Extinction-
Since scientists can't be everywhere to truly determine real time extinction, don't they instead look to environmental factors to determine extinction? Creatures A ate plants B, plants B no longer exist, so Creatures A must be gone too. If we were to find a habitat with plants B...we might postulate Creatures A still exist. Neanderthals and Cro-magnon 'people'(?) lived and ate basically what we do today, and lived in similar habitats. There are primitive peoples, located deep in the rain forests still isolated from the modern world, somewhat protected from contamination by their unknown host governments. "Bigfoot" sightings tend to happen along heavily wooded corridors within other animal migration patterns. Mistaken identity or false extinction? |
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Native Americans have one of the highest percentages of Neanderthal DNA compared to other populations on the planet, however, no Neanderthal ever lived in North America so I don't think you can blame bigfoot on false extinction.
I do think that bigfoot is an archetype left over from when other versions of humans lived together on the planet. It's a cultural memory of some type mixed up in fairy tales about ogres. |
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There could be truth to the ogre myth. It could be a residual cultural memory of when Neanderthals lived in the Northern European countries. To my knowledge the only overlap occurred in the Levant, unless more evidence is found to suggest it happened elsewhere.
I don't think a remnant Neanderthal population lives in the Oklahoma/Arkansas hills. The reason for that, besides them dying out before anyone walked over the Bering Straight land bridge, is there isn't any evidence that Neanderthals ventured more than 5 miles from their home base. They didn't live in big family groups either so if a family happened to make it to Alaska they would have died out long before spreading to the rest of North America. |
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I've read that many native american indigenous people each have a name for just such a creature-
Ba'wis (Tsimshian Indian Bigfoot) Boqs (Bella Coola Bigfoot) Bush Indians (Alaskan Athabaskan Bigfoot) Chiye-Tanka (Sioux Indian Bigfoot) Choanito/Night People (Wenatchi Indian Bigfoot) Hairy Man (Yokuts Indian Bigfoot) Kohuneje (Maidu Indian Bigfoot) Lariyin (Dogrib Indian Bigfoot) Lofa (Chickasaw Indian Bigfoot) Matah Kagmi (Modoc Indian Bigfoot) Maxemista (Cheyenne Indian Bigfoot) Na'in (Gwich'in Indian Bigfoot) Nakani (Dene Indian Bigfoot) Nant'ina (Tanaina Indian Bigfoot) Nik'inla'eena' (Koyukon Indian Bigfoot) Omah (Hupa Indian Bigfoot) Sasquatch (Coast Salish Indian Bigfoot) Seeahtlk (Clallam Indian Bigfoot) Shampe (Choctaw Indian Bigfoot) Siatco (Chehalis Indian Bigfoot) Skookum (Chinook Indian Bigfoot) Ste-ye-hah'mah (Yakama Indian Bigfoot) Stick Indians (Northwest Coast Bigfeet) *The Woodsman (Athabaskan Indian Bigfoot) One would probably be hard pressed to find a primitive culture that does not contain such characters in their common lore. --- I've also read they were 'hunted' into extinction. Dodos, passenger pigeons, sure, but a humanoid, that can reason, make tools, and flee? Given the hardy nature of the Neanderthal, is it truly reasonable to believe ALL of their habitat was taken over by the new people on the block? The selection process that occurred would mean that IF any survived this 'hunt' those left over would have developed an innate fear of the hairless spear chuckers. Surviving would mean they had to be better at un-detection than their predators. While not likely, I think it is possible that hunting humanoids will eventually yield perfectly camouflaged and elusive survivors. |
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They all seem to have big apemen in their woods. But how could there not be any specimens ever from any tribes? How could there be no specimens from modern times? It makes no sense whatsoever. The only thing that makes any sense (common or scientific) is that these things just weren't really there and aren't here now.
I've often wondered if there was any kind of skepticism within the Native American cultures and tribes. Was there any concept of a fabricated entity which didn't really exist as a real thing? We see accounts and lists and stories of the various ideas and things in the realm of Native American culture. But I'm not aware of similar compendiums which illustrate what they rejected or denied because of lack of evidence or because it was simply made up bullcrap. We should talk about this in our thread about Native Americans and Bigfoot. |
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You're asking me to 'speculate' as to why no bones have been found?
I guess, I'd only point to the selection process employed... They were hunted, 'tracked,' any evidence left behind would ultimately lead to their demise. Those that survived this process would be equipped to 'disappear' without a trace. Burying their dead, walking only on rocks, or travel through the trees, maybe they dismember their dead, and employed a "never leave anyone behind" mentality? Did Gigantopithecus ever exist in the Americas? Pull that other thread up, and I'll post there instead, if you wish? |
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Painthorse.....good grief, you sure seem to remember your days at BFF pretty well, I had to look that one up.
By the way even as a banned member you can do a search at BFF, that's what I did found some really interesting stuff! Painthorse....she's making the exact same silly claim the NAWACKIES are...in fact she would be considered a habitator....she claims Bigfoot hangs around in her backyard on a regular basis. She posted a picture of a bird that she thinks is a baby Bigfoot https://www.flickr.com/photos/paint_horse1/8361079574/ All sorts of spooky noises therefore BIGFEETS just like the NAWACKIES in virtually the same location....do you have the same opinion of her claims? Got to revisit some interesting stuff during my search..your TV remote issues and disappearing cigarette butts had striking similarities to our discussions here ![]() You had a Bigfoot in your backyard to? ![]() Or just a history of baseless claims regardless of which side of the fence your on. |
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Welcome back King of the Americas!
You forgot to source your list. http://www.native-languages.org/legends-bigfoot.htm |
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