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Old 19th May 2017, 12:25 PM   #1
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White House adviser is subject of interest...

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The law enforcement investigation into possible coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign has identified a current White House official as a significant person of interest,....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.1d155d94ef4e
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Old 19th May 2017, 12:31 PM   #2
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I hope it is Jared Kushner.
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Old 19th May 2017, 12:58 PM   #3
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I hope it is Jared Kushner.
It'll probably be Bannon. He's the type of ethno-nationalist they like to finance and help in other countries.
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Old 19th May 2017, 01:00 PM   #4
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Let's party like it's 1974..........
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Old 19th May 2017, 01:01 PM   #5
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It'll probably be Bannon. He's the type of ethno-nationalist they like to finance and help in other countries.
My money is on Miller.
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Old 19th May 2017, 01:04 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Tony Stark View Post
I hope it is Jared Kushner.
Nah. Drumpf's family will be enough disgraced when this all is over.

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Let's party like it's 1974..........


My money is on Bannon too. Can't we make a betting pool out of this?
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Old 19th May 2017, 01:06 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Let's party like it's 1974..........
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Old 19th May 2017, 01:07 PM   #8
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My money is on Miller.
You're right better choice. He's been there since go. That also puts Sessions in a bad spot.
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Old 19th May 2017, 01:08 PM   #9
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Yeah, like it's just one.
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Old 19th May 2017, 01:17 PM   #10
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Yeah, like it's just one.
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Old 19th May 2017, 01:34 PM   #11
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There is a thread for this.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=317528
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IVANKA: Daddy, you can't throw Jared under the bus!
TRUMP. There are other men, dear
IVANKA: Disgusting!
TRUMP: I meant that Trudeau fellow.


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Old 19th May 2017, 01:43 PM   #13
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Things seem to be unraveling very quickly. My money is on Miller
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Old 19th May 2017, 02:26 PM   #14
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And whoever these russophilias are, I wish they would do us all a favor and move there. I'll help them pack!
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Donald Trump, of course, fits the description of "current White House official".
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While I'm sure they are interested in a White House official, I wonder if this little leak to the press may also be intended to sow a little paranoia inside the White House? It is a long used tactic of law enforcement to get the rats to turn on each other.
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Old 19th May 2017, 02:49 PM   #17
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While I'm sure they are interested in a White House official, I wonder if this little leak to the press may also be intended to sow a little paranoia inside the White House? It is a long used tactic of law enforcement to get the rats to turn on each other.
That could be why they used the very vague term, "person of interest."
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Old 19th May 2017, 02:50 PM   #18
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I hope it is Jared Kushner.
Your lucky day:

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A New York Magazine reporter tweeted that he’s confirmed with four people that the “significant person of interest” in question is Jared Kushner.
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That could be why they used the very vague term, "person of interest."
Remember people, the first one to play ball gets immunity and book deals, the second gets to be Bubba's bitch.
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Good afternoon. My guess is Jared. He has already got caught not disclosing his meetings with Russian. It's him. The interesting thing to watch is how Trump will react when his kids start to get implicated in this. I keep hearing how Trump is so loyal to his people but I've never understood why that impression is out there. The turn over rate in his administration is horrible. He couldn't run a convenient store with this kind of turn over.
I have little doubt Trump would throw his own kids under the bus to save his own hide. I also have little doubt that his supporters will find a way to rationalize it.
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Donnie has got to be worried about who the Sammy The Bull Gravalino will be in this case...
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Who will solve peace between Israel and Palestine now?
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Well, this will freak out Ivanka, which will send Trump into fits.

Trying to think of the downside...





I got nuthin.
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Old 19th May 2017, 04:30 PM   #24
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Well, this will freak out Ivanka, which will send Trump into fits.

Trying to think of the downside...





I got nuthin.
I suspect Melania and Trump are on opposite sides of Air Force One, with security between them. Trump has a history of getting violent with a previous wife when he was having a bad day. That's why I think his wife is keeping herself and their kid away from the White House. He is under the most pressure of his life right now and he isn't handling it very well.
Just my guess.
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Is Jared and Ivanka on Air Force One at the moment?

Should have googled.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/iv...rticle/2623624

That's got to be one fun trip.
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Is Jared and Ivanka on Air Force One at the moment?
Yes.
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I wonder if the pilot will have to say...".If you don't behave ill turn this plane right around"

Or if Trump just has him take the plane to Russia and ask for asylum.
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Yes.
Did they bring Trump's binky? He'll need his binky.
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Jared just deleted all his tweets.
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Kushner being guilty of something may explain why he urged Trump to fire Comey.
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MSNBC just said that the person of interest is directly related to the Russian Collusion investigation.
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What do you mean? It says he hasn't tweeted yet. :-)
I'm sure the FBI is completely unable to recover that.
I wonder if he colluded with Hillary to see how to delete things?
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I wonder if the pilot will have to say...".If you don't behave ill turn this plane right around"

Or if Trump just has him take the plane to Russia and ask for asylum.
Maybe security can drag Trump off the plane by his feet.
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What do you mean? It says he hasn't tweeted yet. :-)
I'm sure the FBI is completely unable to recover that.
I wonder if he colluded with Hillary to see how to delete things?

Slow your roll, both of you.

If what I just found is accurate...

This was a blown up mistaken story back in March as well.

Oddly... the dude just doesn't tweet.
He seems to have posted all of twice when the account was new, then deleted those back then. All the followers are just waiting for an alert... he doesn't converse with Twitter.

Smart kid.
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Slow your roll, both of you.

If what I just found is accurate...

This was a blown up mistaken story back in March as well.

Oddly... the dude just doesn't tweet.
He seems to have posted all of twice when the account was new, then deleted those back then. All the followers are just waiting for an alert... he doesn't converse with Twitter.

Smart kid.
Party pooper. :-) It's certainly seems that you are correct. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Kushner being guilty of something may explain why he urged Trump to fire Comey.
This has got to slow down. My brain is going too long with too little blood.
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Party pooper. :-) It's certainly seems that you are correct. Thanks for pointing that out.

Party pooper indeed, and I'm sorry for it. Would be a juicy twist if true.


I'm wondering if the smartest adult Trump sprog isn't Eric.
Didn't he just want a simple, quiet life running the upstate NY winery?

Bet that sounds pretty sweet right about now.
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Party pooper indeed, and I'm sorry for it. Would be a juicy twist if true.


I'm wondering if the smartest adult Trump sprog isn't Eric.
Didn't he just want a simple, quiet life running the winery?

Bet that sounds pretty sweet right about now.
The jokes was Trump put him in charge of solving pretty much every single problem.
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If he just deleted them it is way too late because they already have those.
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Slow your roll, both of you.

If what I just found is accurate...

This was a blown up mistaken story back in March as well.

Oddly... the dude just doesn't tweet.
He seems to have posted all of twice when the account was new, then deleted those back then. All the followers are just waiting for an alert... he doesn't converse with Twitter.

Smart kid.
It seems you're right. I checked on the Wayback Machine until start this year and wondered why his number of followers rose from 31K to 44K. At least I now know how to spell "followers" in a dozen languages.
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