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Old 11th May 2017, 10:23 AM   #361
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
So the republicans were different in Clintons two terms, he got impeached for crying out loud! Try again!
I mean, this is easy to prove:


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Old 11th May 2017, 10:25 AM   #362
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Usually the President doesn't have a senate whose sole objective is to stop him achieving anything and yet Obama managed to turn the economy around, repair US relations with many key allies, get ACA passed and stopped torture to name but a few things.
Here we go again, trying to change history that somehow Obama was this great compromiser. It's truly fascinating. He turned the economy around? How?

Repair US relations, with a reset button? The world is on 🔥

Yes he did stop our military from getting information from bad guys.
And he did ruin our healthcare system which is getting ready to implode on itself
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I mean, this is easy to prove:
Lol
Thanks for making my point.

Obama the great compromiser.
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Old 11th May 2017, 10:27 AM   #364
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Lol
Thanks for making my point.

Obama the great compromiser.
Right, but again, your point is absurd. Obama tried to compromise, but he was rebuffed. This chart is yet more evidence of that.

Trust me, we're all familiar with your silly games.
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Old 11th May 2017, 10:32 AM   #365
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Here we go again, trying to change history that somehow Obama was this great compromiser. It's truly fascinating. He turned the economy around? How?
I was responding your your allegation that Obama achieved nothing and that this was an indicator that he didn't compromise. I was pointing out that he got a lot done.

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Repair US relations, with a reset button? The world is on 🔥
...and yet it was far worse under Bush and looks to be getting far worse under Trump. At least under Obama the US was only in conflict with its enemies, now it's also in conflict with its allies

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Yes he did stop our military from getting information from bad guys.
And he did ruin our healthcare system which is getting ready to implode on itself
Ruined a system which was about the most expensive in the world but had some of the poorest outcomes in the developed world ?
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Old 11th May 2017, 10:33 AM   #366
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Right, but again, your point is absurd. Obama tried to compromise, but he was rebuffed. This chart is yet more evidence of that.

Trust me, we're all familiar with your silly games.
Like every liberal, obama tried! He failed but tried, lets make him the great failing compromiser.

The chart is evidence of his failure to move anything forward, why, because he wouldn't compromise. You always make this easy!
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Old 11th May 2017, 10:35 AM   #367
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Like every liberal, obama tried! He failed but tried, lets make him the great failing compromiser.

The chart is evidence of his failure to move anything forward, why, because he wouldn't compromise. You always make this easy!
Well, when you're not bound by the limits of fact and reality, I guess it is pretty easy to generate glib, unconvincing responses.
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I was responding your your allegation that Obama achieved nothing and that this was an indicator that he didn't compromise. I was pointing out that he got a lot done.
In his first two years when he didn't have to, dare I say it, compromise


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...and yet it was far worse under Bush and looks to be getting far worse under Trump. At least under Obama the US was only in conflict with its enemies, now it's also in conflict with its allies
The republican always has to clean up after the democrat.


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Ruined a system which was about the most expensive in the world but had some of the poorest outcomes in the developed world ?
So you agree he ruined it?
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Old 11th May 2017, 10:37 AM   #369
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The chart is evidence of his failure to move anything forward, why, because he wouldn't compromise. You always make this easy!
I'll go ahead and add compromise to the list of terms you don't understand as well then.
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Well, when you're not bound by the limits of fact and reality, I guess it is pretty easy to generate glib, unconvincing responses.
lol
When a president is given the label of a compromiser, he usually has things to show for it. look at what Clinton was able to get done with bipartisan support.
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Old 11th May 2017, 10:46 AM   #371
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lol
When a president is given the label of a compromiser, he usually has things to show for it. look at what Clinton was able to get done with bipartisan support.
Yawn. You gave him the "label of a compromiser," whatever that means.

Obama was a centrist who tried to compromise over and over and was rebuffed by extreme, dishonest, racist Republicans.

This is what happened in reality. I don't know what version you get from the deranged media spewing ******** that you gobble up so eagerly.
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I'll go ahead and add compromise to the list of terms you don't understand as well then.
Why don't you just put up Obamas list of great legislative compromises.
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Originally Posted by TraneWreck View Post

Obama was a centrist who tried to compromise over and over and was rebuffed by extreme, dishonest, racist Republicans.

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Lol
******* hilarious.

Unless Obama was the extreme dishonest leftist?
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Why don't you just put up Obamas list of great legislative compromises.
First give us a list of people, besides yourself, who have labeled Obama a compromiser.
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Here we go again, trying to change history that somehow Obama was this great compromiser. It's truly fascinating. He turned the economy around? How?
Here we do again, pretending to have no knowledge of facts.

GOP obstructionism during Obama's terms is a fact.
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Why don't you just put up Obamas list of great legislative compromises.
lol.
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First give us a list of people, besides yourself, who have labeled Obama a compromiser.
TraneWreck?
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Here we do again, pretending to have no knowledge of facts.

GOP obstructionism during Obama's terms is a fact.
Did you think they republicans should have just stepped out of the way? Aren't you one of those down the middle compromising advocates?
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Lol
******* hilarious.

Unless Obama was the extreme dishonest leftist?
No, he was a centrist. Again, this is reality. I would recommend avoiding the media establishments that feed you ******** so that you can join us in the real world.
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Old 11th May 2017, 11:13 AM   #380
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TraneWreck?
I said that Obama wanted to compromise. I have no idea what you mean when you say "compromiser."

You transparently shifted from a discussion of whether Obama reached out to Republicans (which he did, over and over) to a standard of "completed compromises."

It was fairly trivial to show the latter, given my familiarity with reality, but the primary dynamic of the Obama years was Obama trying to arrive at a compromise and being denied.

Whether that is a "compromiser" or not, we can never know since you seem to have a different meaning for that term than those of use inhabiting reality.
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Did you think they republicans should have just stepped out of the way? Aren't you one of those down the middle compromising advocates?
Well, yeah, which is why the fact that you think "not being an obstructionist" means "stepping out of the way" is so hilarious: you have no idea what compromise entails.

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Unless Obama was the extreme dishonest leftist?
So let's add "compromise" to he list of words, like leftists, that mean absolutely nothing to you.
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TraneWreck?
Let me be more precise. Someone outside this forum.
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A good compromise leaves both sides unhappy.
Under Obama, for Republicans it was all about not letting the President get anything done, even Romney's healthcare reform.
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At times I think that a certain poster here is not a real right winger, but a Leftie trying to make the right look as stupid and ignorant as possible.
Gilding the lilly, mate.
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MORE: I'm told the name of the GOP firm that was served with Warrant in Annapolis is Strategic Campaign Group. strategiccampaigngroup.com

This and talk of a great deal of judicial activity on Twitter. Stuff is happening.
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JFC. Trump just admitted to Lester Holt that he *called FBI Director Comey* and *asked if he was under investigation*.
https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/862731538995310593

That admission cannot be good for Trump
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Caroline O@RVAwonk
JFC. Trump just admitted to Lester Holt that he *called FBI Director Comey* and *asked if he was under investigation*.
https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/862731538995310593

That admission cannot be good for Trump
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Caroline O@RVAwonk
JFC. Trump just admitted to Lester Holt that he *called FBI Director Comey* and *asked if he was under investigation*.
https://twitter.com/rvawonk/status/862731538995310593

That admission cannot be good for Trump
Help me out. Why not? Can you explain it for those who might not understand the significance?
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The GOP fundraiser/consulting firm whose offices are being searched by FBI is Strategic Campaign Group. Tied to guess who? MANAFORT.

https://twitter.com/aliasvaughn/stat...44094023483394
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Help me out. Why not? Can you explain it for those who might not understand the significance?
It looks like a degree of intereference in a judicial proceeding against himself. There has been a lot of previous talk about the need for Trump to stand back from any investigation.
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FBI executing a warrant 191 Main Street Annapolis. The office of strategic campaign group. The FBI seen here blocking glass door from view
https://twitter.com/dcollinswbal/sta...41485560758276
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FBI executing a warrant 191 Main Street Annapolis. The office of strategic campaign group. The FBI seen here blocking glass door from view
https://twitter.com/dcollinswbal/sta...41485560758276
The Donald must be throwing a massive hissy fit. Can't wait for the idiotic tweets in response to this.
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The Donald must be throwing a massive hissy fit. Can't wait for the idiotic tweets in response to this.
Absolutely if previous reports of meltdowns are to be believed.

The other name being linked on Twitter to the Strategic Campaign Group, target of current FBI raids, is Trump campaign advisor Roger Stone.
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New acting FBI director contradicts White House on Comey

(CNN)Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe Thursday rejected assertions by the White House that FBI employees had lost faith in James Comey and that the bureau's probe into Russian election meddling was one of its most minor concerns.

"I hold Director Comey in the absolute highest regard. I have the highest respect for his considerable abilities and his integrity," McCabe told members of the Senate intelligence committee.

He said Comey, who was fired by President Donald Trump on Tuesday, enjoyed "broad support within the FBI and still does to this day." He added, "The majority, the vast majority of FBI employees enjoyed a deep, positive connection to Director Comey."

McCabe also contradicted another statement by Sanders in Wednesday's White House briefing when she said that the Russia investigation was "probably one of the smallest things" on the FBI's plate.

"We consider it to be a highly significant investigation," McCabe said, but declined to give details of the manpower involved in the probe.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politi...tee/index.html

It's time for Trump to leave the White House and turn over the presidency to someone who is capable of running the United States of America.
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It's time for Trump to leave the White House and turn over the presidency to someone who is capable of running the United States of America.
Unfortunately, that means Pence who I think is a bigger danger. Right-wing demagogue wannabe who is reasonably competent, gets along with the GOP leadership and knows how to get things done.
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Unfortunately, that means Pence who I think is a bigger danger. Right-wing demagogue wannabe who is reasonably competent, gets along with the GOP leadership and knows how to get things done.
It is the old Lawful Evil vs Chaotic Evil debate.
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If pence and trump wanted to they'd have brought back prima noctis long before now.
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It is the old Lawful Evil vs Chaotic Evil debate.
I think of it as plain ole Evil vs Idiotic Evil.
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If pence and trump wanted to they'd have brought back prima noctis long before now.
Trump has all the young women he wants, regardless of if they want him or not, and Pence can't even stand to work with women
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Trump has all the young women he wants, regardless of if they want him or not, and Pence can't even stand to work with women
When trump won the election people acted as though prima noctis was going to be implemented across the us and black people would be shoved into crematoria. So far neither has happened.
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