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Old 15th December 2020, 10:28 AM   #1
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45th - the PC Presidency

In this thread I would love for you to help me collect all the ways in which the US has become more PC during the 45th Presidency.
What progress has been made despite the best efforts of the Administration?



Examples:

- Washington 'Football Team'
- Mississippi Flag redesign
- Epstein and Maxwell arrested
- Weinstein in prison
- Military bases with Confederacy names being renamed
- statutes of Confederate Leaders and Slavers being removed
- progress on Gun Control ( https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/tr...n-gun-control/ ), including a ban on bump stocks
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Old 15th December 2020, 10:49 AM   #2
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You’ve just had the last 4 years of the most politically correct president, you want more? :jawdropping
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Old 15th December 2020, 10:50 AM   #3
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Not sure arresting criminals counts as becoming more PC.
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Old 15th December 2020, 10:52 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by RolandRat View Post
Not sure arresting criminals counts as becoming more PC.
Well, they weren't arrested under previous Presidents...
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Old 15th December 2020, 10:53 AM   #5
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You’ve just had the last 4 years of the most politically correct president, you want more? :jawdropping
not saying that the President was PC.

More like resistance to Trump has allowed for social progress in protest to him.
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Old 15th December 2020, 10:53 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by RolandRat View Post
Not sure arresting criminals counts as becoming more PC.
Political correctness is a tool of the right wing, the current version of it was invented in the 1970s by the USA right wing. It has been probably the most successful “straw man” ever in politics.

Every time Trump was “trolling the libs” he was using PC.
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Old 15th December 2020, 10:56 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
not saying that the President was PC.

More like resistance to Trump has allowed for social progress in protest to him.
“Political correctness” is a straw man the right uses against what they perceive to be their enemies, in the USA that is “the libs”.

“the libs” don’t do “things” because they are “politically correct” as the right would say they do, they do them for a whole variety of complex reasons.
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Old 15th December 2020, 11:13 AM   #8
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How the hell are these things PC or not.

Just random unrelated events.
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Old 15th December 2020, 11:16 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
“Political correctness” is a straw man the right uses against what they perceive to be their enemies, in the USA that is “the libs”.

“the libs” don’t do “things” because they are “politically correct” as the right would say they do, they do them for a whole variety of complex reasons.
Coincidentally, I had read something recently that Neil Gaiman had said about political correctness that seems appropriate.

Originally Posted by Neil Gaiman
I was reading a book (about interjections, oddly enough) yesterday which included the phrase “In these days of political correctness…” talking about no longer making jokes that denigrated people for their culture or for the colour of their skin. And I thought, “That’s not actually anything to do with ‘political correctness’. That’s just treating other people with respect.”

Which made me oddly happy. I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase “politically correct” wherever we could with “treating other people with respect”, and it made me smile.

You should try it. It’s peculiarly enlightening.

I know what you’re thinking now. You’re thinking “Oh my god, that’s treating other people with respect gone mad!”
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Originally Posted by RolandRat View Post
Not sure arresting criminals counts as becoming more PC.
Clearly, Epstein and Weinstein are the victims of out-of-control, Social Justice Feminazi Warriors. Honestly, when did it become illegal to rape someone?!?


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Old 15th December 2020, 11:36 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
In this thread I would love for you to help me collect all the ways in which the US has become more PC during the 45th Presidency.
What progress has been made despite the best efforts of the Administration?



Examples:

- Washington 'Football Team'
- Mississippi Flag redesign
- Epstein and Maxwell arrested
- Weinstein in prison
- Military bases with Confederacy names being renamed
- statutes of Confederate Leaders and Slavers being removed
- progress on Gun Control ( https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/tr...n-gun-control/ ), including a ban on bump stocks
Can the examples also include a description of the "best efforts of the Administration" to block the progress, and how those efforts failed?

Like, what did the Administration actually do to try to stop Mississippi from redesigning its flag, or block the arrest of Epstein and Maxwell, or keep Weinstein out of prison?

Did the Administration even make any effort at all to prevent the renaming of military bases?
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Old 15th December 2020, 11:41 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Can the examples also include a description of the "best efforts of the Administration" to block the progress, and how those efforts failed?

Like, what did the Administration actually do to try to stop Mississippi from redesigning its flag, or block the arrest of Epstein and Maxwell, or keep Weinstein out of prison?

Did the Administration even make any effort at all to prevent the renaming of military bases?
Does threatening to veto the Defense Authorization bill count?
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Old 15th December 2020, 11:44 AM   #13
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Not sure arresting criminals counts as becoming more PC.
It apparently does. Recall that "cancel Culture" was little more than a demand that R. Kelly and Bill Cosby be sent to prison for being serial rapists, rather than being allowed to tour freely. #Metoo started as a grown women showing sympathy for sexually abused children as well, actually.
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Old 15th December 2020, 12:21 PM   #14
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Does threatening to veto the Defense Authorization bill count?
You tell me.

ETA: I'm not so much concerned about disputing the explanation. Just I think there should be an actual explanation. Was there an actual PC battle being fought?

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We can't even rip little children out of the arms of their mothers and put them in 'summer camps' like cages anymore without some bleeding heart libtards getting all teary eyed! Damn pc nonsense has just gotten out of hand. I say we bring back good old Sheriff Joe Arpaio. He knew how to run prisons....er summer camps.
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Old 15th December 2020, 05:40 PM   #16
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Actual political correctness in the Age of Trump:
The Sacred Second Amendment.
Owning the Libs.
Nothing wrong with coordinating fraud with the Russians.
Kim Jong Un is bad, until he's not.
Our allies owe us money.
Trade wars are good.
Socialism!!!

All repeated over and over by Republicans.
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Old 15th December 2020, 06:06 PM   #17
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We can't even rip little children out of the arms of their mothers and put them in 'summer camps' like cages anymore without some bleeding heart libtards getting all teary eyed! Damn pc nonsense has just gotten out of hand. I say we bring back good old Sheriff Joe Arpaio. He knew how to run prisons....er summer camps.
Him and Barack Obama.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Can the examples also include a description of the "best efforts of the Administration" to block the progress, and how those efforts failed?

Like, what did the Administration actually do to try to stop Mississippi from redesigning its flag, or block the arrest of Epstein and Maxwell, or keep Weinstein out of prison?
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Does threatening to veto the Defense Authorization bill count?
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You tell me.
You're the one that asked the question. I'll give you my opinion but I expect that you will give yours.

I'd say it absolutely does count. Threats of political actions are actions whether they are followed through or not especially when POTUS is the one giving voice to them.

You're a bit of a history buff. I'm sure you're aware of the following quote and what happened after it was said.

"Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?"

Enough said.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Him and Barack Obama.
That's false.
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As we’ve written before, there were some separations under the Obama administration, but no blanket policy to prosecute parents and, therefore, separate them from their children.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ inspector general released a report in January noting that, “historically” such family “separations were rare and occurred because of circumstances such as the parent’s medical emergency or a determination that the parent was a threat to the child’s safety.”

As for the number of children who were separated under Obama, there have been no official figures released — but, as we said, the HHS inspector general noted that such separations were rare.

The “89,000” figure used in the meme is similar to previous claims that “90,000” children were separated under Obama — a number the Associated Press last year pointed out may have been incorrectly pulled from a 2016 Senate report. The report said that, since the beginning of fiscal year 2014, the Obama administration had placed “almost 90,000” unaccompanied children “with sponsors in the United States.”

At the time, the U.S. was experiencing an influx of unaccompanied children arriving at the border from Central America. The “90,000” figure largely represented children who had arrived at the border without a parent or guardian (though, as we said earlier, there may have been limited cases in which children were separated for the child’s safety).
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Not the biggest of things, but before Trump, serial sexual harasser Mark Halperin officiated at MSNBC.
Now he is relegated to Newsmax, telling the morons that the election isn't over.

/end of rant, sorry, have a nice day
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yeah, plenty of right-winger talking heads lost their job in the Trump years.

O'Reilly, for example.
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I think theprestige knows it's false. He's been involved in that particular discussion enough times to know it's false anyway.

No, that appears to have been a statement made, knowing it was false, in an attempt to get a reaction from the other side. There's a term for such an action, but it has slipped my mind...
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We all know rethuglicans like to troll dem libruls.
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Originally Posted by wareyin View Post
I think theprestige knows it's false. He's been involved in that particular discussion enough times to know it's false anyway.

No, that appears to have been a statement made, knowing it was false, in an attempt to get a reaction from the other side. There's a term for such an action, but it has slipped my mind...
Does the term share its nomenclature with a certain fictional silicon based life form from the Terry Pratchett novels?
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not saying that the President was PC.
He's the most PC president in my lifetime.

Loyalty oaths from his cabinet?

I find there's an element out there that defines PC as "expectation to conform to views I disagree with."

The right and left have different attitudes about this, because it's a new concept for conservatives. Until recently they've been the only ones dishing it out, so it didn't have a name. It was 'how things are'.

And then they woke up one morning and couldn't use the N word. Some can't adapt to a world where there are consequences for not treating other people like human beings.
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