Bill Barr and his October Surprise - Page 3

The Don · 14th October 2020, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

My sauces inside the Trump Campaign have told me that the October Surprise will be a calendar featuring full-nudes of Trump and his cronies.

Stoppit !

Some of us are planning to eat at some point in the future.

portlandatheist · 14th October 2020, 10:20 AM

vaporware. As expected. I'm curious about how the spygate/Qanon types are going to react to this news.

Stacyhs · 14th October 2020, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

The report concludes that there was no substantive wrongdoing but doubtless President Trump and his cronies will insist that this is clear evidence of the greatest political conspiracy of all time.

edited to add....

He could still release a heavily edited version of the report which gives the impression that there was wrongdoing but that the Deep State were able to cover it up successfully

No "substantive wrongdoing"? But how can that be? According to Dear Leader:

Quote:

"It was the greatest political crime in the history of our country. If I were a Democrat instead of a Republican, I think everybody would have been in jail a long time ago, and I'm talking with 50-year sentences. It is a disgrace what's happened. This is the greatest political scam, hoax in the history of our country."

Babbylonian · 14th October 2020, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by portlandatheist

vaporware. As expected. I'm curious about how the spygate/Qanon types are going to react to this news.

By claiming the report says exactly the opposite of what it says and then claiming the deep state win is only temporary.

Mike! · 14th October 2020, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

My sauces inside the Trump Campaign have told me that the October Surprise will be a calendar featuring full-nudes of Trump and his cronies.

You didn't have to go there.

I am curious though, were they barbeque, ranch, or sweet 'n' sour sauces?

JoeMorgue · 14th October 2020, 12:44 PM

Look for a "bombshell" (cough cough) smear attack on Hunter Biden in the next week or so as Trump's Hail Mary. FoxNews is salivating over a story about Giuliani's laywers having "dirt" on him and pushing it hard to their viewership.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...d-drive-laptop

Stacyhs · 14th October 2020, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Look for a "bombshell" (cough cough) smear attack on Hunter Biden in the next week or so as Trump's Hail Mary. FoxNews is salivating over a story about Giuliani's laywers having "dirt" on him and pushing it hard to their viewership.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...d-drive-laptop

Bad link

Norman Alexander · 14th October 2020, 01:34 PM

Why do I get an impression that Trump is the world's biggest "Karen"?

eeyore1954 · 14th October 2020, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Look for a "bombshell" (cough cough) smear attack on Hunter Biden in the next week or so as Trump's Hail Mary. FoxNews is salivating over a story about Giuliani's laywers having "dirt" on him and pushing it hard to their viewership.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...d-drive-laptop

Did they find the dirt next to the WMDs in Iraq or in Al Capone's Vault or in Rachel Maddow's Tax Reveal?

Stacyhs · 14th October 2020, 01:42 PM

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...d-drive-laptop
404 page for me

JoeMorgue · 14th October 2020, 02:43 PM

Updated Link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...sing-positions

Babbylonian · 14th October 2020, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Updated Link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...sing-positions

I got a popup saying that if I liked their coverage I should disable my adblocker. Haha, no and no. I'm not a big fan of breathlessly reporting stories that are completely evidence-free and essentially repeating nonsense from their sister rag, The New York Post.

"Hey, there's this broken laptop and somebody says there's a ton of incriminating stuff on it...but nobody's actually seen this incriminating stuff...but WOW!"

Stacyhs · 14th October 2020, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Updated Link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...sing-positions

Uh...yeah. Sounds like .....

varwoche · 14th October 2020, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

I got a popup saying that if I liked their coverage I should disable my adblocker. Haha, no and no. I'm not a big fan of breathlessly reporting stories that are completely evidence-free and essentially repeating nonsense from their sister rag, The New York Post.

"Hey, there's this broken laptop and somebody says there's a ton of incriminating stuff on it...but nobody's actually seen this incriminating stuff...but WOW!"

Know thy enemy.

I wouldn't disable either though.

Babbylonian · 14th October 2020, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by varwoche

Know thy enemy.

I wouldn't disable either though.

Hey, that's why I clicked. It's impossible to counter fake news without knowing what the fake news is.

dudalb · 14th October 2020, 03:26 PM

SO the great Obama conspiracy theory turns out to be crap. What a suprise.

Armitage72 · 14th October 2020, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

I got a popup saying that if I liked their coverage I should disable my adblocker. Haha, no and no. I'm not a big fan of breathlessly reporting stories that are completely evidence-free and essentially repeating nonsense from their sister rag, The New York Post.

"Hey, there's this broken laptop and somebody says there's a ton of incriminating stuff on it...but nobody's actually seen this incriminating stuff...but WOW!"

Journalist Judd Legum did an analysis of the NY Post story on his Twitter account.

I was going to copy and paste the text for people who can't access Twitter here, but it's a lot longer than I initially thought it was.

It turns out that the whole "scandal" is based (again) on the completely false idea that Joe Biden was trying to stop the investigation of Bursima.

Quote:

Pretending, for a moment, that everything in the story is true (very doubtful) it is totally inconsequential.

Supposedly one "email" recovered on the laptop "proves" that Hunter once introduced a Bursima exec to his father.

This is a scandal? There is no word on the length of the meeting or what was discussed.

The New York Post says its significant because Biden then called for the ouster of the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Bursima.

FALSE

The prosecutor was not investigating Bursima

The prosecutor was corrupt, which is why the entire international community was calling for his ouster.

Replacing the corrupt prosecutor brought more scrutiny on Bursima, not less

Elagabalus · 14th October 2020, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Updated Link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...sing-positions

Giuliani's lawyer says he has hard drive with Hunter Biden texts, emails, videos of 'compromising positions' (fox news)

Compromising positions and the ol' dog ate my harddrive trick.

Skeptic Ginger · 14th October 2020, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

No "substantive wrongdoing"? But how can that be? According to Dear Leader:

Notice the sleazy use of language, "No "substantive wrongdoing", instead of saying there wasn't any evidence of wrongdoing?

Is Barr trying to discredit Biden and/or please der Führer, afraid to tell him Obama did no wrong?

What was the language they tried to use to claim Trump's campaign cronies weren't colluding with Russia?

Stacyhs · 14th October 2020, 03:38 PM

Giuliani is a disgrace. How far he has fallen and he has done it to himself.

The Greater Fool · 14th October 2020, 03:39 PM

To bad the oligarch can't spell.

Skeptic Ginger · 14th October 2020, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

Giuliani's lawyer says he has hard drive with Hunter Biden texts, emails, videos of 'compromising positions' (fox news)

Compromising positions and the ol' dog ate my harddrive trick.

What, no pee tape?

NY Post comes out with the email claim, Giuliani is behind it. It looks very much like a tabloid story. FaceBook declares it is a bogus story and they are refusing to let it be disseminated on their platform until it is fact checked.

After all the email attacks on Clinton, I don't see this crap going anywhere except within the cult who are already claiming the Deep State is trying to quash the story.

But obviously Trump is going to spew this story all over Twitter and his rallies.

dudalb · 14th October 2020, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Giuliani is a disgrace. How far he has fallen and he has done it to himself.

As one person put it. from America's Mayor to Trump's Chump.

Skeptic Ginger · 14th October 2020, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

Giuliani's lawyer says he has hard drive with Hunter Biden texts, emails, videos of 'compromising positions' (fox news)

Compromising positions and the ol' dog ate my harddrive trick.

Continuing from my post above:

Quote:

... an Apple MacBook Pro alleged to have belonged to the younger Biden was disassembled and an external hard drive was turned over to the FBI in December – after the computer repair shop owner in Biden's home state of Delaware notified federal investigators about their existence.

The Post reported that the broken laptop was dropped off in April 2019, but nobody returned to collect it or pay the bill. It was unclear who dropped off the laptop....

Costello said the laptop was inoperable, but it remained unclear if the FBI retrieved the contents – and if it still existed. However, he underscored that he had in his possession a copy of the hard drive with tens of thousands of potentially damaging correspondence pertaining to Hunter Biden's Ukraine dealings, which also implicate his high-profile father.

Certainly suspect source, a laptop supposedly not retrieved from a repair shop? Who does that?

The claim is the hard drive was turned over to the FBI almost a year ago. Now suddenly in Oct Rudy dumps the story out.

Stacyhs · 14th October 2020, 04:31 PM

Sounds more like an October Pile of **** than Surprise.

Babbylonian · 14th October 2020, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Continuing from my post above: Certainly suspect source, a laptop supposedly not retrieved from a repair shop? Who does that?

The claim is the hard drive was turned over to the FBI almost a year ago. Now suddenly in Oct Rudy dumps the story out.

Utter BS. If there was actual incriminating evidence in the hands of a private citizen, they'd release it. The whole story falls apart when you realize that rich people (Hunter Biden qualifies) don't drop off their malfunctioning computer equipment at random repair shops. They hire someone to come to them and fix the equipment on site.

a_unique_person · 14th October 2020, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Elagabalus

Giuliani's lawyer says he has hard drive with Hunter Biden texts, emails, videos of 'compromising positions' (fox news)

Compromising positions and the ol' dog ate my harddrive trick.

Tens of thousands of Hunter Bidens emails. That guy writes a lot of emails.

The Great Zaganza · 14th October 2020, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Mike!

You didn't have to go there.

I am curious though, were they barbeque, ranch, or sweet 'n' sour sauces?

Trump only does ketchup.

Skeptic Ginger · 14th October 2020, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

Utter BS. If there was actual incriminating evidence in the hands of a private citizen, they'd release it. The whole story falls apart when you realize that rich people (Hunter Biden qualifies) don't drop off their malfunctioning computer equipment at random repair shops. They hire someone to come to them and fix the equipment on site.

Or they buy a new one, and I'm not even close to being rich. My son (31) tells me I'm stuck with built-in obsolescence. In his opinion, just get a new one, they have totally upgraded stuff on them. Same with a phone and a camera (not on the phone). Need a battery, get a new camera. Printer quits working, buy a new one.

Stacyhs · 14th October 2020, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Or they buy a new one, and I'm not even close to being rich. My son (31) tells me I'm stuck with built-in obsolescence. In his opinion, just get a new one, they have totally upgraded stuff on them. Same with a phone and a camera (not on the phone). Need a battery, get a new camera. Printer quits working, buy a new one.

When your father is the VP of the US and there are emails between the two of you concerning sensitive government business, not to mention explicit sexual photos, you don't just go off and leave it with some computer store. The whole thing sounds like a contrived pile of horse manure.

Skeptic Ginger · 14th October 2020, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

When your father is the VP of the US and there are emails between the two of you concerning sensitive government business, not to mention explicit sexual photos, you don't just go off and leave it with some computer store. The whole thing sounds like a contrived pile of horse manure.

Rudy was hanging out in the Ukraine. I'm picturing some guy on the street in a trench coat with a heavy accent saying, "Psst, you want dirt? I got this laptop for sale with a whole lot of dirt. It's broken, but if you get it fixed you won't be disappointed."

Babbylonian · 14th October 2020, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Or they buy a new one, and I'm not even close to being rich. My son (31) tells me I'm stuck with built-in obsolescence. In his opinion, just get a new one, they have totally upgraded stuff on them. Same with a phone and a camera (not on the phone). Need a battery, get a new camera. Printer quits working, buy a new one.

You'd probably at least want to recover data from the hard drive (or have it professionally erased) if possible, but that's a while-you-wait sort of operation. Even if you were taking it in, they'd probably say to come back in a couple hours.

The Great Zaganza · 14th October 2020, 05:57 PM

Obamagate is the new Pizzagate: everyone who thinks there is something there comes back looking like an idiot.

Stacyhs · 14th October 2020, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Rudy was hanging out in the Ukraine. I'm picturing some guy on the street in a trench coat with a heavy accent saying, "Psst, you want dirt? I got this laptop for sale with a whole lot of dirt. It's broken, but if you get it fixed you won't be disappointed."

As Trump goes, so goes Rudy. He know this and he's desperate. He's scraping the bottom of the hard disk, so to speak.

Norman Alexander · 14th October 2020, 06:01 PM

I'm hoping Barr's October Surprise is that he quits and releases a tell-all book about Trump.

Ah, dreams...!

Babbylonian · 14th October 2020, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

I'm hoping Barr's October Surprise is that he quits and releases a tell-all book about Trump.

Ah, dreams...!

I'd prefer a terse firing via Twitter. Barr deserves to be utterly humiliated.

Bogative · 14th October 2020, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

Tens of thousands of Hunter Bidens emails. That guy writes a lot of emails.

Mainly about yoga and Chelsea's wedding, probably.

Norman Alexander · 14th October 2020, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

I'd prefer a terse firing via Twitter. Barr deserves to be utterly humiliated.

Being found coked to the eyeballs wearing a gimp mask, in the steam room of a "leather" massage parlour.

ETA: Live on Fox News.

Skeptic Ginger · 14th October 2020, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

You'd probably at least want to recover data from the hard drive (or have it professionally erased) if possible, but that's a while-you-wait sort of operation. Even if you were taking it in, they'd probably say to come back in a couple hours.

My unused and dead computers are just piling up in my garage.

Bogative · 14th October 2020, 08:10 PM

Rudy Giuliani today on Steve Bannon's radio show –

Quote:

the stuff we are in possession of contains a thousand, maybe more, photographs that are highly highly… anywhere from inappropriate to illegal

They have got everything the American people are going to look at in the next five days…

Sounds like Giuliani is going to do a slow burn on releasing what was found on Biden's hard drive a la Project Veritas over the next several days.

I think I'm going to take a vacation just so I have time to watch the loony left's meltdown this week! It's gonna be so much fun!

14th October 2020, 12:34 PM	#85
Mike! Official Ponylandistanian National Treasure. Respect it! Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ponylandistan! Where the bacon grows on trees! Can it get any better than that? I submit it can not! Posts: 40,277	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza My sauces inside the Trump Campaign have told me that the October Surprise will be a calendar featuring full-nudes of Trump and his cronies. You didn't have to go there. I am curious though, were they barbeque, ranch, or sweet 'n' sour sauces?
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14th October 2020, 12:44 PM	#86
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 30,721	Look for a "bombshell" (cough cough) smear attack on Hunter Biden in the next week or so as Trump's Hail Mary. FoxNews is salivating over a story about Giuliani's laywers having "dirt" on him and pushing it hard to their viewership. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...d-drive-laptop
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14th October 2020, 01:34 PM	#88
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14th October 2020, 01:39 PM	#89
eeyore1954 Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6,745	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Look for a "bombshell" (cough cough) smear attack on Hunter Biden in the next week or so as Trump's Hail Mary. FoxNews is salivating over a story about Giuliani's laywers having "dirt" on him and pushing it hard to their viewership. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...d-drive-laptop Did they find the dirt next to the WMDs in Iraq or in Al Capone's Vault or in Rachel Maddow's Tax Reveal?
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14th October 2020, 02:43 PM	#91
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 30,721	Updated Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...sing-positions
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14th October 2020, 09:21 AM	#81
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 31,376	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza My sauces inside the Trump Campaign have told me that the October Surprise will be a calendar featuring full-nudes of Trump and his cronies. Stoppit ! Some of us are planning to eat at some point in the future.

14th October 2020, 10:20 AM	#82
portlandatheist Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,612	vaporware. As expected. I'm curious about how the spygate/Qanon types are going to react to this news.

14th October 2020, 10:38 AM	#83
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,031	Originally Posted by The Don The report concludes that there was no substantive wrongdoing but doubtless President Trump and his cronies will insist that this is clear evidence of the greatest political conspiracy of all time. edited to add.... He could still release a heavily edited version of the report which gives the impression that there was wrongdoing but that the Deep State were able to cover it up successfully No "substantive wrongdoing"? But how can that be? According to Dear Leader: Quote: "It was the greatest political crime in the history of our country. If I were a Democrat instead of a Republican, I think everybody would have been in jail a long time ago, and I'm talking with 50-year sentences. It is a disgrace what's happened. This is the greatest political scam, hoax in the history of our country."

14th October 2020, 10:48 AM	#84
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,505	Originally Posted by portlandatheist vaporware. As expected. I'm curious about how the spygate/Qanon types are going to react to this news. By claiming the report says exactly the opposite of what it says and then claiming the deep state win is only temporary.

14th October 2020, 01:31 PM	#87
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,031	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Look for a "bombshell" (cough cough) smear attack on Hunter Biden in the next week or so as Trump's Hail Mary. FoxNews is salivating over a story about Giuliani's laywers having "dirt" on him and pushing it hard to their viewership. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...d-drive-laptop Bad link

14th October 2020, 01:42 PM	#90
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,031	https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...d-drive-laptop 404 page for me

14th October 2020, 02:49 PM	#92
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,505	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Updated Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...sing-positions I got a popup saying that if I liked their coverage I should disable my adblocker. Haha, no and no. I'm not a big fan of breathlessly reporting stories that are completely evidence-free and essentially repeating nonsense from their sister rag, The New York Post. "Hey, there's this broken laptop and somebody says there's a ton of incriminating stuff on it...but nobody's actually seen this incriminating stuff...but WOW!"

14th October 2020, 02:52 PM	#93
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,031	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Updated Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...sing-positions Uh...yeah. Sounds like .....

14th October 2020, 02:55 PM	#94
varwoche Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Puget Sound Posts: 15,437	Originally Posted by Babbylonian I got a popup saying that if I liked their coverage I should disable my adblocker. Haha, no and no. I'm not a big fan of breathlessly reporting stories that are completely evidence-free and essentially repeating nonsense from their sister rag, The New York Post. "Hey, there's this broken laptop and somebody says there's a ton of incriminating stuff on it...but nobody's actually seen this incriminating stuff...but WOW!" Know thy enemy. I wouldn't disable either though.
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14th October 2020, 03:22 PM	#95
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,505	Originally Posted by varwoche Know thy enemy. I wouldn't disable either though. Hey, that's why I clicked. It's impossible to counter fake news without knowing what the fake news is.

14th October 2020, 03:26 PM	#96
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	SO the great Obama conspiracy theory turns out to be crap. What a suprise.
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14th October 2020, 03:28 PM	#97
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 5,263	Originally Posted by Babbylonian I got a popup saying that if I liked their coverage I should disable my adblocker. Haha, no and no. I'm not a big fan of breathlessly reporting stories that are completely evidence-free and essentially repeating nonsense from their sister rag, The New York Post. "Hey, there's this broken laptop and somebody says there's a ton of incriminating stuff on it...but nobody's actually seen this incriminating stuff...but WOW!" Journalist Judd Legum did an analysis of the NY Post story on his Twitter account. I was going to copy and paste the text for people who can't access Twitter here, but it's a lot longer than I initially thought it was. It turns out that the whole "scandal" is based (again) on the completely false idea that Joe Biden was trying to stop the investigation of Bursima. Quote: Pretending, for a moment, that everything in the story is true (very doubtful) it is totally inconsequential. Supposedly one "email" recovered on the laptop "proves" that Hunter once introduced a Bursima exec to his father. This is a scandal? There is no word on the length of the meeting or what was discussed. The New York Post says its significant because Biden then called for the ouster of the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Bursima. FALSE The prosecutor was not investigating Bursima The prosecutor was corrupt, which is why the entire international community was calling for his ouster. Replacing the corrupt prosecutor brought more scrutiny on Bursima, not less
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14th October 2020, 03:33 PM	#98
Elagabalus Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 6,919	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Updated Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...sing-positions Giuliani's lawyer says he has hard drive with Hunter Biden texts, emails, videos of 'compromising positions' (fox news) Compromising positions and the ol' dog ate my harddrive trick.
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14th October 2020, 03:38 PM	#99
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,032	Originally Posted by Stacyhs No "substantive wrongdoing"? But how can that be? According to Dear Leader: Notice the sleazy use of language, "No "substantive wrongdoing", instead of saying there wasn't any evidence of wrongdoing? Is Barr trying to discredit Biden and/or please der Führer, afraid to tell him Obama did no wrong? What was the language they tried to use to claim Trump's campaign cronies weren't colluding with Russia?

14th October 2020, 03:38 PM	#100
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,031	Giuliani is a disgrace. How far he has fallen and he has done it to himself.

14th October 2020, 03:39 PM	#101
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14th October 2020, 03:45 PM	#102
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,032	Originally Posted by Elagabalus Giuliani's lawyer says he has hard drive with Hunter Biden texts, emails, videos of 'compromising positions' (fox news) Compromising positions and the ol' dog ate my harddrive trick. What, no pee tape? NY Post comes out with the email claim, Giuliani is behind it. It looks very much like a tabloid story. FaceBook declares it is a bogus story and they are refusing to let it be disseminated on their platform until it is fact checked. After all the email attacks on Clinton, I don't see this crap going anywhere except within the cult who are already claiming the Deep State is trying to quash the story. But obviously Trump is going to spew this story all over Twitter and his rallies.

14th October 2020, 03:49 PM	#103
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,334	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Giuliani is a disgrace. How far he has fallen and he has done it to himself. As one person put it. from America's Mayor to Trump's Chump.
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14th October 2020, 03:55 PM	#104
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,032	Originally Posted by Elagabalus Giuliani's lawyer says he has hard drive with Hunter Biden texts, emails, videos of 'compromising positions' (fox news) Compromising positions and the ol' dog ate my harddrive trick. Continuing from my post above: Quote: ... an Apple MacBook Pro alleged to have belonged to the younger Biden was disassembled and an external hard drive was turned over to the FBI in December – after the computer repair shop owner in Biden's home state of Delaware notified federal investigators about their existence. The Post reported that the broken laptop was dropped off in April 2019, but nobody returned to collect it or pay the bill. It was unclear who dropped off the laptop.... Costello said the laptop was inoperable, but it remained unclear if the FBI retrieved the contents – and if it still existed. However, he underscored that he had in his possession a copy of the hard drive with tens of thousands of potentially damaging correspondence pertaining to Hunter Biden's Ukraine dealings, which also implicate his high-profile father. Certainly suspect source, a laptop supposedly not retrieved from a repair shop? Who does that? The claim is the hard drive was turned over to the FBI almost a year ago. Now suddenly in Oct Rudy dumps the story out.

14th October 2020, 04:31 PM	#105
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,031	Sounds more like an October Pile of **** than Surprise.

14th October 2020, 04:43 PM	#106
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,505	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Continuing from my post above: Certainly suspect source, a laptop supposedly not retrieved from a repair shop? Who does that? The claim is the hard drive was turned over to the FBI almost a year ago. Now suddenly in Oct Rudy dumps the story out. Utter BS. If there was actual incriminating evidence in the hands of a private citizen, they'd release it. The whole story falls apart when you realize that rich people (Hunter Biden qualifies) don't drop off their malfunctioning computer equipment at random repair shops. They hire someone to come to them and fix the equipment on site.

14th October 2020, 04:54 PM	#107
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 43,047	Originally Posted by Elagabalus Giuliani's lawyer says he has hard drive with Hunter Biden texts, emails, videos of 'compromising positions' (fox news) Compromising positions and the ol' dog ate my harddrive trick. Tens of thousands of Hunter Bidens emails. That guy writes a lot of emails.
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14th October 2020, 05:07 PM	#108
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,688	Originally Posted by Mike! You didn't have to go there. I am curious though, were they barbeque, ranch, or sweet 'n' sour sauces? Trump only does ketchup.
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14th October 2020, 05:33 PM	#109
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,032	Originally Posted by Babbylonian Utter BS. If there was actual incriminating evidence in the hands of a private citizen, they'd release it. The whole story falls apart when you realize that rich people (Hunter Biden qualifies) don't drop off their malfunctioning computer equipment at random repair shops. They hire someone to come to them and fix the equipment on site. Or they buy a new one, and I'm not even close to being rich. My son (31) tells me I'm stuck with built-in obsolescence. In his opinion, just get a new one, they have totally upgraded stuff on them. Same with a phone and a camera (not on the phone). Need a battery, get a new camera. Printer quits working, buy a new one.

14th October 2020, 05:40 PM	#110
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,031	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Or they buy a new one, and I'm not even close to being rich. My son (31) tells me I'm stuck with built-in obsolescence. In his opinion, just get a new one, they have totally upgraded stuff on them. Same with a phone and a camera (not on the phone). Need a battery, get a new camera. Printer quits working, buy a new one. When your father is the VP of the US and there are emails between the two of you concerning sensitive government business, not to mention explicit sexual photos, you don't just go off and leave it with some computer store. The whole thing sounds like a contrived pile of horse manure.

14th October 2020, 05:52 PM	#111
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,032	Originally Posted by Stacyhs When your father is the VP of the US and there are emails between the two of you concerning sensitive government business, not to mention explicit sexual photos, you don't just go off and leave it with some computer store. The whole thing sounds like a contrived pile of horse manure. Rudy was hanging out in the Ukraine. I'm picturing some guy on the street in a trench coat with a heavy accent saying, "Psst, you want dirt? I got this laptop for sale with a whole lot of dirt. It's broken, but if you get it fixed you won't be disappointed."

14th October 2020, 05:52 PM	#112
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,505	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Or they buy a new one, and I'm not even close to being rich. My son (31) tells me I'm stuck with built-in obsolescence. In his opinion, just get a new one, they have totally upgraded stuff on them. Same with a phone and a camera (not on the phone). Need a battery, get a new camera. Printer quits working, buy a new one. You'd probably at least want to recover data from the hard drive (or have it professionally erased) if possible, but that's a while-you-wait sort of operation. Even if you were taking it in, they'd probably say to come back in a couple hours.

14th October 2020, 05:57 PM	#113
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,688	Obamagate is the new Pizzagate: everyone who thinks there is something there comes back looking like an idiot.
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14th October 2020, 06:00 PM	#114
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,031	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Rudy was hanging out in the Ukraine. I'm picturing some guy on the street in a trench coat with a heavy accent saying, "Psst, you want dirt? I got this laptop for sale with a whole lot of dirt. It's broken, but if you get it fixed you won't be disappointed." As Trump goes, so goes Rudy. He know this and he's desperate. He's scraping the bottom of the hard disk, so to speak.

14th October 2020, 06:01 PM	#115
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 8,824	I'm hoping Barr's October Surprise is that he quits and releases a tell-all book about Trump. Ah, dreams...!
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