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Old 16th January 2021, 01:44 PM   #801
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
I had good feelings watching P-E Biden announcing his Science Team, and especially at the announcement below.

Biden elevates White House science post to Cabinet level

He talked about the five divisions he is looking to improve, like technology, medicine, economy, etc., using science as a focus. I am quite excited about that.
I am betting some GOPers will object to that, since Godless Science is the work of Satan...
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Old 16th January 2021, 01:57 PM   #802
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I'm curious how the Science agency would handle issues that other agencies are currently responsible for. For example, there's a Department of Energy, and what we do about energy is a pretty sciencey subject. How will they divide different parts of that task between them? Does the new one take over all of the research & development (and hopefully add a lot more) while the old DoE gets restricted to regulation?
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Old 16th January 2021, 02:11 PM   #803
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Do you have evidence for all those claims?
No evidence, but a realistic prediction, if a little pessimistic.
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Originally Posted by Delvo View Post
I'm curious how the Science agency would handle issues that other agencies are currently responsible for. For example, there's a Department of Energy, and what we do about energy is a pretty sciencey subject. How will they divide different parts of that task between them? Does the new one take over all of the research & development (and hopefully add a lot more) while the old DoE gets restricted to regulation?
There are already large science agencies, but they operate rather independently. FDA and NIH plus NSF.
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Old 17th January 2021, 07:34 PM   #805
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Unfortunate news. Looks like Katie Porter isn't going to be on the House Financial Services Committee this time.
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Old 17th January 2021, 07:48 PM   #806
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That lady puts up with no BS!!

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Unfortunate.

She is really something else. She'd make an awesome President.
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Old 17th January 2021, 10:26 PM   #807
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
And probably beginnng purging the agencies of all the "sleepers" that Trump has left behind.
The Deep Trump!
I've been thinking a bit about this; may start a thread.
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Old 17th January 2021, 10:27 PM   #808
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Who? The story has been deleted.
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Old 17th January 2021, 11:48 PM   #809
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Who? The story has been deleted.
California congressperson who is famous for skewering uncooperative executives and officials.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-worse-off-it/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-steve-mnuchin
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Old 18th January 2021, 12:14 AM   #810
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Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
California congressperson who is famous for skewering uncooperative executives and officials.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-worse-off-it/
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-steve-mnuchin
Thank you for beating me to the response.
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Old 18th January 2021, 03:56 AM   #811
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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On Friday, Biden pledged to DEFEAT THE NRA.
Biden wants to ban our semi-auto rifles, tax our guns/mags & more. He knows the only thing standing in his way to DISMANTLE THE 2ND AMENDMENT is NRA.
Gun owners must stay vigilant & be engaged in elections and the legislative process.
The NRA's endemic and rampant corruption is doing a fine job of destroying the NRA.
Good.
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Old 18th January 2021, 03:59 AM   #812
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I was going to wait until after the inauguration to start commenting on Biden's Presidency (and that date would still make a good cutoff time to break off a new thread from this one even if this one isn't long enough by then, just because that'll be when his Presidency really starts), but, since he's already started getting involved, there's no point in waiting to respond to things he's already done.

Back when they were still debating & negotiating about the latest "stimulus", there were behind-the-scenes reports about Biden weighing in on the side that wanted to give people as little as they could get away with and had originally started at $0; when it looked like it could be $1200 or $2000, he was one of those who sank it back down to the $600 we got.

Then he went to Georgia and told them to elect Democrats if they want 2000. And now he's pushing to sink it to 1400, again trying to squeeze it down as low as he thinks he can get away with by pretending that's really 2000 because the 600 already happened.

So he's already not only fighting & striving to do us as little good as possible, but lying to us about intending to do any better and then looking for ways to weasel out of that while saying "Well, technically..." to us and "Did you like that? Did I do good?" to the Republican politicians. So clearly he knows what the people need & want, he knows what wins, and it's the opposite of what he intends to do, all for the great cause of kissing Republican butts and going down in history as the greatest conservative-collaborator ever.

Elect a Republican/conservative President, get a Republican/conservative Presidency
I assume you'll be producing evidence for these claims?
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Old 18th January 2021, 07:08 AM   #813
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I assume you'll be producing evidence for these claims?
Repubs don't need no steenking evidence!
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Old 18th January 2021, 07:16 AM   #814
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
NRA tweeted

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On Friday, Biden pledged to DEFEAT THE NRA.
Biden wants to ban our semi-auto rifles, tax our guns/mags & more. He knows the only thing standing in his way to DISMANTLE THE 2ND AMENDMENT is NRA.
Gun owners must stay vigilant & be engaged in elections and the legislative process.
The NRA makes incredible money during Democratic administrations. Fear-mongering about gun-grabbing is their bread and butter for fundraising.

Even with the publicity of the NRA execs pilfering charitable donations, the money will pour in.
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Old 18th January 2021, 08:53 AM   #815
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Lots of jokes about the My Pillow guy but ask yourself this: does anyone know who Biden’s pillow guy is? we’re about to have a president who has no advisors from the pillow industry, let that sink in.
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Originally Posted by TheSupermeerkat View Post
Lots of jokes about the My Pillow guy but ask yourself this: does anyone know who Biden’s pillow guy is? we’re about to have a president who has no advisors from the pillow industry, let that sink in.
Joe Megibow, CEO of Purple Mattress and Pillows, is a registered Democrat. Biden could offer him a position on his cabinet.
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Old 18th January 2021, 09:16 AM   #817
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There are already large science agencies, but they operate rather independently. FDA and NIH plus NSF.
I hope the new boys will have a budget for research grants to universities. No government can spend its $$$$ better.
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Old 18th January 2021, 02:21 PM   #818
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The NRA makes incredible money during Democratic administrations. Fear-mongering about gun-grabbing is their bread and butter for fundraising.

Even with the publicity of the NRA execs pilfering charitable donations, the money will pour in.
Yep. I'll never forget an article I saw in the NRA's rag American Hunter. There were only a few months left to go in Obama's 2nd term and the article headline was something like: "Obama hasn't taken your guns yet, but he will soon!"
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Old 19th January 2021, 07:02 AM   #819
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Some things are difficult to predict, some less so.

The Wall Street Journal (Murdoch) yesterday:

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I hope the new boys will have a budget for research grants to universities. No government can spend its $$$$ better.
I have had a hard time, through the years, trying to explain to the libertarian end of folks the benefit of university research to libertarian types.

I will explain the funding and the results. Then they go "what about Harvard and Stanford, that is where the best research is done." Then I point out the federal funding those professors at those Us get. They refuse to believe it. End of discussion.

The concept of "enterpreneurial state" explains it more broadly in terms of other fields:

The Entrepreneurial State: Debunking Public vs. Private Sector Myths Paperback – Illustrated, October 27, 2015
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Originally Posted by Galaxie View Post
Yep. I'll never forget an article I saw in the NRA's rag American Hunter. There were only a few months left to go in Obama's 2nd term and the article headline was something like: "Obama hasn't taken your guns yet, but he will soon!"
I saw this as well in person, and ammunition sales during the Obama presidency were through the roof. I think some people are probably will continue to fear that Obama will manage to reach out of the grave to grab their bullets. He should get a special medal from the gun industry for the stimulus.
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Lots of jokes about the My Pillow guy but ask yourself this: does anyone know who Biden’s pillow guy is? we’re about to have a president who has no advisors from the pillow industry, let that sink in.
I'm sure Fox will be right on top of that, noting that Sleepy Joe has no visible plan to bolster the American way.
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Old 19th January 2021, 11:29 AM   #823
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I am betting some GOPers will object to that, since Godless Science is the work of Satan...

Back during the 2008 campaign, I would sometimes listen to AM radio raving lunatic Michael Savage for a laugh/cringe. At one point he played a Bill Maher clip complaining about the lack of scientific knowledge in politicians. Savage's response was "You want scientists running the government? Hitler was a scientist. Is that the kind of person you want running things?"
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Back during the 2008 campaign, I would sometimes listen to AM radio raving lunatic Michael Savage for a laugh/cringe. At one point he played a Bill Maher clip complaining about the lack of scientific knowledge in politicians. Savage's response was "You want scientists running the government? Hitler was a scientist. Is that the kind of person you want running things?"
Scientists are evil. Hitler is evil. So Hitler is scientist. Perfectly logical!
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I watched the speech, and it's good to have a man who acts like a human being instead of a reptile. Biden is a man who has faced and come through family tragedies. Trump is a man who skipped a visit to his dying brother because it was a good day for golf.
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President Biden Tweets (from the @POTUS account)

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Yeeah, there is that whole COVID thing. Wait, wasn't that supposed to vanish after 20 Jan?
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What exactly is Biden's covid plans these days?

The stimulus is 100% the right thing to do. I hope he's able to get that done quickly, but I suppose that largely depends on the Republicans in Congress.

I also have very little hope that this will do much to move the needle unless it is only the first of many cash payments.

Across this country we've tried the half-measure approach. So long as people are still going out to work, to shop, to travel, and so on, the virus will continue to rip through the community.

It's time for people to stay home, and they need money to do so. Monthly payments that keep people's bills paid, and strict shutdown orders that only let truly essential businesses stay open, providing generous hazard pay for those classified as such.
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I watched the speech, and it's good to have a man who acts like a human being instead of a reptile. Biden is a man who has faced and come through family tragedies. Trump is a man who skipped a visit to his dying brother because it was a good day for golf.
I will be a huge relief to, once again, see a US President speaking in whole, coherent sentences, doing so presidentially and not like a self-serving, failed Mafia boss.
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Back when they were still debating & negotiating about the latest "stimulus", there were behind-the-scenes reports about Biden weighing in on the side that wanted to give people as little as they could get away with...
You have supporting evidence for this?

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...and had originally started at $0; when it looked like it could be $1200 or $2000, he was one of those who sank it back down to the $600 we got.
And this?

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Then he went to Georgia and told them to elect Democrats if they want 2000. And now he's pushing to sink it to 1400, again trying to squeeze it down as low as he thinks he can get away with...
But the $600 check hadn't been passed by the Senate at that time, the House were still pushing for $2,000 - so what he said was absolutely correct. He effectively said 'If you want the $600 check the R-led Senate is proposing, to be a $2,000 check, vote Democrat'

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... by pretending that's really 2000 because the 600 already happened.
Really? Do to remember what happened over the past few weeks as regard the second round of stimulus relief (I will try to keep it simple).

1. The D-led House wanted the second stimulus check to be $2000. Even Trump supported that!

2. After eight years of the R-led Senate approving tax cuts for the rich and spending money hand-over-fist, when it came to helping the average Joe and his family survive, they suddenly became all concerned about fiscal prudence and would only approve a second stimulus check of $600.

3. Biden supports an additional third stimulus check of $1,400 which effectively brings the second stimulus check up to $2,000.

Its simple math addition? $600 + $1,400 = $2,000. The call for the third check of $1,400 would not have even been necessary in the first place if the Senate had passed the $2000 check when they had the chance.

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So he's already not only fighting & striving to do us as little good as possible, but lying to us about intending to do any better and then looking for ways to weasel out of that while saying "Well, technically..." to us and "Did you like that? Did I do good?" to the Republican politicians. So clearly he knows what the people need & want, he knows what wins, and it's the opposite of what he intends to do, all for the great cause of kissing Republican butts and going down in history as the greatest conservative-collaborator ever.
Again, lets see your evidence supporting this.
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You have supporting evidence for this?



And this?



But the $600 check hadn't been passed by the Senate at that time, the House were still pushing for $2,000 - so what he said was absolutely correct. He effectively said 'If you want the $600 check the R-led Senate is proposing, to be a $2,000 check, vote Democrat'



Really? Do to remember what happened over the past few weeks as regard the second round of stimulus relief (I will try to keep it simple).

1. The D-led House wanted the second stimulus check to be $2000. Even Trump supported that!

2. After eight years of the R-led Senate approving tax cuts for the rich and spending money hand-over-fist, when it came to helping the average Joe and his family survive, they suddenly became all concerned about fiscal prudence and would only approve a second stimulus check of $600.

3. Biden supports an additional third stimulus check of $1,400 which effectively brings the second stimulus check up to $2,000.

Its simple math addition? $600 + $1,400 = $2,000. The call for the third check of $1,400 would not have even been necessary in the first place if the Senate had passed the $2000 check when they had the chance.



Again, lets see your evidence supporting this.
Republicans don't (can't?) do arithmetic.
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Republicans don't (can't?) do arithmetic.
Delvo is not republican. Though that mistake is forgivable, because screeds of far-left guy butthurt over Bernie's loss in Dem primaries long ago can be hard to distinguish from republican drivel.

I always thought there is something to that whole horseshoe theory.
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Old 20th January 2021, 12:04 PM   #833
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Regardless of what one thinks of Biden’s policies, it’s hard to think of someone more qualified to be President: years and years as a Senator and two terms as Vice-President. He knows how things work and has personal relationships with many in Congress.

By contrast, I thought Obama started out unqualified (only two years as a Senator) but was certainly “qualified” by the end of his term of office. Biden’s immediate predecessor was not only unqualified, but somehow managed to be less qualified by the time he left.
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Old 20th January 2021, 12:04 PM   #834
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Originally Posted by Mader Levap View Post
Delvo is not republican. Though that mistake is forgivable, because screeds of far-left guy butthurt over Bernie's loss in Dem primaries long ago can be hard to distinguish from republican drivel.

I always thought there is something to that whole horseshoe theory.
My mistake. Looks like a duck and quacks....... sometimes not a duck.
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Old 20th January 2021, 12:09 PM   #835
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Trumpers actively impeded Pentagon transition:
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The Pentagon blocked members of President Joe Biden’s incoming administration from gaining access to critical information about current operations, including the troop drawdown in Afghanistan, upcoming special operations missions in Africa and the Covid-19 vaccine distribution program, according to new details provided by transition and defense officials.

The effort to obstruct the Biden team, led by senior White House appointees at the Pentagon, is unprecedented in modern presidential transitions and will hobble the new administration on key national security matters as it takes over positions in the Defense Department on Wednesday, the officials said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...nsition-460768

Maybe more evidence that they planned/expected a coup?
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Old 20th January 2021, 12:19 PM   #836
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
President Biden Tweets (from the @POTUS account)

"There is no time to waste when it comes to tackling the crises we face. That's why today, I am heading to the Oval Office to get right to work delivering bold action and immediate relief for American families."
He's not going to go golfing first? Pfft, what a try-hard loser! /s
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Old 20th January 2021, 12:24 PM   #837
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I for one am going to be very happy never to hear "the China Virus" again. The other guy even got it into his last speech.
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Old 20th January 2021, 12:36 PM   #838
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The thread on the Trump Presidency reached part 27. I feel like the Biden Presidency will be twice as long and have half as many posts. Although, some of our conservatives seem to be coming out of hiding to talk about really important things now that Trump is gone. So, all bets are off if Biden wears a tan suit.
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Old 20th January 2021, 12:41 PM   #840
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Originally Posted by Bob001 View Post
Trumpers actively impeded Pentagon transition:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...nsition-460768

Maybe more evidence that they planned/expected a coup?
Trump sycophants need to be rooted out from ALL positions of control and infleunce, and debrided. The infection must be cleansed.
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