[Split Thread] A second impeachment - Page 12

The Great Zaganza · 12th January 2021, 08:37 AM

The critical reason why there needs to be an Impeachment:

we wouldn't have to call him President ever again.

JoeMorgue · 12th January 2021, 08:39 AM

Part of me hopes Trump does run in 2024 and splits the Republican ticket with Trump taking ~20, a mainstream Republican taking roughly ~20, and a Democrat winning in a landslide.

I also am fully aware of how badly that could backfire.

JoeMorgue · 12th January 2021, 08:40 AM

I wonder if the Republicans have already decided what they are going to try and impeach Biden over?

(You know they are going to try. No way the Democrats are getting two unchallenged impeachments, even against Trump.)

The Great Zaganza · 12th January 2021, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I wonder if the Republicans have already decided what they are going to try and impeach Biden over?

(You know they are going to try. No way the Democrats are getting two unchallenged impeachments, even against Trump.)

having picked a VP of color, obviously.

Dave Rogers · 12th January 2021, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I wonder if the Republicans have already decided what they are going to try and impeach Biden over?

Dunno, but I could hazard a guess as to what they want to impeach Harris over.

Dave

JoeMorgue · 12th January 2021, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

having picked a VP of color, obviously.

Well obviously Kamala "Black Power Kill Whitey" Harris is a super-sekrit sleeper agent for the deep state white genocide cabal. That's just logical.

dasmiller · 12th January 2021, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I wonder if the Republicans have already decided what they are going to try and impeach Biden over?

(You know they are going to try. No way the Democrats are getting two unchallenged impeachments, even against Trump.)

I'm actually expecting a series of 25th amendment requests. A lot of right-wingers have been saying that Biden's senile for the last several months; I don't expect that to let up.

trustbutverify · 12th January 2021, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Part of me hopes Trump does run in 2024 and splits the Republican ticket with Trump taking ~20, a mainstream Republican taking roughly ~20, and a Democrat winning in a landslide.

I also am fully aware of how badly that could backfire.

Or we could all drink cyanide laced Kool-Aid and see what happens.

Meadmaker · 12th January 2021, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Tero

Trump relied on social media to get the nomination. He won't have that.

You think he won't be able to reach people because Twitter won't give him an account?

What the internet has enabled is cheap publication by anyone to anyone. There's no reason to have a corporation as gatekeeper to what gets onto the internet, and that won't happen. It's very easy to create alternatives.

I don't think Trump will be back as a political force, but that's not based on the ability of Mark Zuckerberg to keep him hidden from us. I think it's that enough of the American people have woken up to where his style of demagoguery leads.

In other words, I'm counting on the intelligence of the American people to keep him out. That's kind of a risky strategy.

trustbutverify · 12th January 2021, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Meadmaker

You think he won't be able to reach people because Twitter won't give him an account?

What the internet has enabled is cheap publication by anyone to anyone. There's no reason to have a corporation as gatekeeper to what gets onto the internet, and that won't happen. It's very easy to create alternatives.

I don't think Trump will be back as a political force, but that's not based on the ability of Mark Zuckerberg to keep him hidden from us. I think it's that enough of the American people have woken up to where his style of demagoguery leads.

In other words, I'm counting on the intelligence of the American people to keep him out. That's kind of a risky strategy.

That's a joke, right?

Aridas · 12th January 2021, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Democrats can't heal the divide and call for unity, because Trump and his Republicans have taken away all their legitimacy to do so:
you will never accept that I give you half of my money as reconciliation if you are convinced that I stole all that money from you.

Before Biden and the rest of the Democrats can work on making the US less partisan, Republicans have to admit to their voters that they lied about the Election being rigged and that fully support Biden's win as unquestionably legitimate.

I think that it's a bit more basic, honestly. Democrats indeed can't heal the divide, because they're really, really not responsible for it. Democrats honestly have been trying to work with Republicans pretty much all along, for that matter. At the moment, there's quite a lot of Democrats who don't want to work with or trust Republicans, yes... as a direct result of the unending stream of false accusations, the constant bad faith they show, the party over country, the outright sedition they've riled up and engaged in, etc. If Republicans would act in good faith and act to actually do good things, Democrats in general would immediately be happy to make good things happen. The focus by Republicans (and conservatives in general) seems to be more about the people, and support is far more based on how friendly they are with the people. The Democrats (and liberals in general) seem to be far more focused on policy, on the other hand. Sorta a case in point can be seen with reactions to Obama and Trump. Obama supports a claimed Republican priority? Republicans attack Obama anyways and work to prevent it from happening. Trump supports a claimed Democratic priority? Democrats are immediately on board, regardless of how much they dislike Trump himself.

What "healing" even can the Democrats offer at all on their side when the fundamental problem is that Republicans are attacking Democrats in bad faith and have been for a very extended period of time?

Democrats can seek to directly help a heck of a lot of Republicans and it's guaranteed that they'll get attacked hard for trying to help. Republicans can seek to directly harm a heck of a lot of Republicans and it's pretty well guaranteed they'll be cheered on in their efforts.

Squeegee Beckenheim · 12th January 2021, 09:34 AM

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1349018177624289282

Quote:

Trump on impeachment: "For Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to continue on this path, I think it's causing tremendous danger to our county and it's causing tremendous anger. I want no violence."

Footage embedded in tweet.

Nice country you've got here. Be a shame if something were to...happen to it.

JoeMorgue · 12th January 2021, 09:38 AM

*Hits the Democrats* When the cops show up you tell them you feel down the stairs do you hear me! *Hits them again*

Tero · 12th January 2021, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by Meadmaker

You think he won't be able to reach people because Twitter won't give him an account?

What the internet has enabled is cheap publication by anyone to anyone. There's no reason to have a corporation as gatekeeper to what gets onto the internet, and that won't happen. It's very easy to create alternatives.

I don't think Trump will be back as a political force, but that's not based on the ability of Mark Zuckerberg to keep him hidden from us. I think it's that enough of the American people have woken up to where his style of demagoguery leads.

In other words, I'm counting on the intelligence of the American people to keep him out. That's kind of a risky strategy.

You have misunderstood the role of social media. You do not get the coverage from Parler Gab or even this forum. You have to have tens of millions read your message immediately. Otherwise it has no effect.

A Trump II, anyone, would need to tone down their populist message. But the Trumpsters by then have gone total conspiracy nut route, a toned down Trump will not work.

Darat · 12th January 2021, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1349018177624289282

Footage embedded in tweet.

Nice country you've got here. Be a shame if something were to...happen to it.

And looking at the crowded people in the background another superspreader party!

Captain_Swoop · 12th January 2021, 11:28 AM

In Rules Committee hearing, Jim Jordan opposes using 25A to remove Trump saying, "we should use this time to bring the nation together."
Chairman McGovern asks Jordan if he will say Biden "won fair and square."
Jordan refuses to say this.

Meadmaker · 12th January 2021, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by Tero

You have misunderstood the role of social media. You do not get the coverage from Parler Gab or even this forum. You have to have tens of millions read your message immediately. Otherwise it has no effect.

A Trump II, anyone, would need to tone down their populist message. But the Trumpsters by then have gone total conspiracy nut route, a toned down Trump will not work.

Two posts before yours, there's a post with Donald Trump talking, on Twitter.

Come to think of it, I don't use twitter. I don't have a twitter account. And yet, thanks to Captain Swoop, I have seen darned near every tweet Trump has made in the last year.

The next Trump will know how to get his message out, including his brief little tweet-like rants, to anyone who wants to see them, and a whole lot of people who don't want to see him. Don't count on private censorship to keep the message away from the public.

Captain_Swoop · 12th January 2021, 11:46 AM

Brian Kilmeade on Fox again says Dems shouldn't pursue impeachment because Republicans are threatening mass violence

"We see what's happening around this country, how 50 state houses are being threatened on Inauguration Day, this is the last thing you want to do"

Resume · 12th January 2021, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Brian Kilmeade on Fox again says Dems shouldn't pursue impeachment because Republicans are threatening mass violence

"We see what's happening around this country, how 50 state houses are being threatened on Inauguration Day, this is the last thing you want to do"

I thought we didn't give in to terrorists.

acbytesla · 12th January 2021, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Brian Kilmeade on Fox again says Dems shouldn't pursue impeachment because Republicans are threatening mass violence

"We see what's happening around this country, how 50 state houses are being threatened on Inauguration Day, this is the last thing you want to do"

Originally Posted by Resume

I thought we didn't give in to terrorists.

Exactly. As if letting him off the hook will stop violence.

trustbutverify · 12th January 2021, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Resume

I thought we didn't give in to terrorists.

They were only joking about that.

Jungle Jim · 12th January 2021, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

In Rules Committee hearing, Jim Jordan opposes using 25A to remove Trump saying, "we should use this time to bring the nation together."
Chairman McGovern asks Jordan if he will say Biden "won fair and square."
Jordan refuses to say this.

Is that the same Jim Jordan who was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom?

trustbutverify · 12th January 2021, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Jungle Jim

Is that the same Jim Jordan who was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom?

By the way, is it to much to ask to not award the medal of freedom to pro golfers whose only qualification is their support of the president?

Tero · 12th January 2021, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Meadmaker

Two posts before yours, there's a post with Donald Trump talking, on Twitter.

Come to think of it, I don't use twitter. I don't have a twitter account. And yet, thanks to Captain Swoop, I have seen darned near every tweet Trump has made in the last year.

The next Trump will know how to get his message out, including his brief little tweet-like rants, to anyone who wants to see them, and a whole lot of people who don't want to see him. Don't count on private censorship to keep the message away from the public.

One little video. It's working spectacularly well at driving our Trump nuts.

wareyin · 12th January 2021, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by Meadmaker

Two posts before yours, there's a post with Donald Trump talking, on Twitter.

Come to think of it, I don't use twitter. I don't have a twitter account. And yet, thanks to Captain Swoop, I have seen darned near every tweet Trump has made in the last year.

The next Trump will know how to get his message out, including his brief little tweet-like rants, to anyone who wants to see them, and a whole lot of people who don't want to see him. Don't count on private censorship to keep the message away from the public.

I don't tweet either, but my impression is that Captain Swoop wasn't even sharing 1/10th of Trump's tweets here.

Paul2 · 12th January 2021, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

In Rules Committee hearing, Jim Jordan opposes using 25A to remove Trump saying, "we should use this time to bring the nation together."
Chairman McGovern asks Jordan if he will say Biden "won fair and square."
Jordan refuses to say this.

That's the problem in a nutshell.

Dr. Keith · 12th January 2021, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

In Rules Committee hearing, Jim Jordan opposes using 25A to remove Trump saying, "we should use this time to bring the nation together."
Chairman McGovern asks Jordan if he will say Biden "won fair and square."
Jordan refuses to say this.

If they can stay on that message every time a Trumper whines about divisiveness I think they may actually get something done.

alfaniner · 12th January 2021, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by wareyin

I don't tweet either, but my impression is that Captain Swoop wasn't even sharing 1/10th of Trump's tweets here.

Someday soon someone is going to publish a book with every single Trump Tweet during his Presidency in it. I expect it will be in a very small font.

Captain_Swoop · 12th January 2021, 02:43 PM

NEW: McConnell has told associates he believes Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him!!! https://nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mc...-trump-mc.html

zooterkin · 12th January 2021, 02:44 PM

McConnell backs the impeachment.

Quote:

Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, has told associates that he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking. The House is voting on Wednesday to formally charge Mr. Trump with inciting violence against the country.

Stacyhs · 12th January 2021, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

Someday soon someone is going to publish a book with every single Trump Tweet during his Presidency in it. I expect it will be in a very small font.

"A" book?

Dave Rogers · 12th January 2021, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

McConnell backs the impeachment.

That means Trump is totally ******, right?

Dave

dasmiller · 12th January 2021, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

McConnell backs the impeachment.

I saw that, too. I'm absolutely boggled.

I mean, I thought that McConnell had concluded that Trump was a liability and wanted him out, but I didn't think he'd actually let it be known that he felt that way.

dasmiller · 12th January 2021, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Rogers

That means Trump is totally ******, right?

Dave

If McConnell openly takes a position like that, yes.

Stacyhs · 12th January 2021, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by zooterkin

Quote:

Quote:
Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, has told associates that he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking. The House is voting on Wednesday to formally charge Mr. Trump with inciting violence against the country.

McConnell backs the impeachment.

I'll believe it when I see him say it publicly.

dirtywick · 12th January 2021, 02:56 PM

i believe it, i think he lost a lot of the gop when he sent a mob of people in that wanted to kill half of them

Stacyhs · 12th January 2021, 03:07 PM

I think there have always been "half of them" who have hated him, but that hasn't stop them from enabling him and supporting him for the last 4 years including acquitting him in the last impeachment.

dirtywick · 12th January 2021, 03:13 PM

I agree. they got a pretty visceral look at why that was a bad idea

Segnosaur · 12th January 2021, 03:31 PM

Re: Moscow Mitch backing impeachment...

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I'll believe it when I see him say it publicly.

I agree that some caution is warranted.

The referenced article only said that McConnell told "associates" he backs impeachment. Its possible that the information is wrong (maybe some misinterpretation going on). Or its also possible that McConnell agrees with impeachment from a philosophical point of view, but doesn't agree that Trump should be impeached at this point.

Stacyhs · 12th January 2021, 03:35 PM

LiZ Cheney will vote for impeachment

12th January 2021, 08:37 AM	#441
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,604	The critical reason why there needs to be an Impeachment: we wouldn't have to call him President ever again.
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12th January 2021, 08:39 AM	#442
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 30,535	Part of me hopes Trump does run in 2024 and splits the Republican ticket with Trump taking ~20, a mainstream Republican taking roughly ~20, and a Democrat winning in a landslide. I also am fully aware of how badly that could backfire.
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12th January 2021, 08:40 AM	#443
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 30,535	I wonder if the Republicans have already decided what they are going to try and impeach Biden over? (You know they are going to try. No way the Democrats are getting two unchallenged impeachments, even against Trump.)
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12th January 2021, 08:44 AM	#444
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,604	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue I wonder if the Republicans have already decided what they are going to try and impeach Biden over? (You know they are going to try. No way the Democrats are getting two unchallenged impeachments, even against Trump.) having picked a VP of color, obviously.
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12th January 2021, 08:45 AM	#445
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 32,351	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue I wonder if the Republicans have already decided what they are going to try and impeach Biden over? Dunno, but I could hazard a guess as to what they want to impeach Harris over. Dave
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12th January 2021, 08:46 AM	#446
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 30,535	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza having picked a VP of color, obviously. Well obviously Kamala "Black Power Kill Whitey" Harris is a super-sekrit sleeper agent for the deep state white genocide cabal. That's just logical.
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12th January 2021, 08:48 AM	#447
dasmiller Just the right amount of cowbell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Well past Hither, looking for Yon Posts: 6,379	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue I wonder if the Republicans have already decided what they are going to try and impeach Biden over? (You know they are going to try. No way the Democrats are getting two unchallenged impeachments, even against Trump.) I'm actually expecting a series of 25th amendment requests. A lot of right-wingers have been saying that Biden's senile for the last several months; I don't expect that to let up.
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12th January 2021, 08:48 AM	#448
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,878	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Part of me hopes Trump does run in 2024 and splits the Republican ticket with Trump taking ~20, a mainstream Republican taking roughly ~20, and a Democrat winning in a landslide. I also am fully aware of how badly that could backfire. Or we could all drink cyanide laced Kool-Aid and see what happens.
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12th January 2021, 08:49 AM	#449
Meadmaker Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,179	Originally Posted by Tero Trump relied on social media to get the nomination. He won't have that. You think he won't be able to reach people because Twitter won't give him an account? What the internet has enabled is cheap publication by anyone to anyone. There's no reason to have a corporation as gatekeeper to what gets onto the internet, and that won't happen. It's very easy to create alternatives. I don't think Trump will be back as a political force, but that's not based on the ability of Mark Zuckerberg to keep him hidden from us. I think it's that enough of the American people have woken up to where his style of demagoguery leads. In other words, I'm counting on the intelligence of the American people to keep him out. That's kind of a risky strategy.
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12th January 2021, 08:51 AM	#450
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,878	Originally Posted by Meadmaker You think he won't be able to reach people because Twitter won't give him an account? What the internet has enabled is cheap publication by anyone to anyone. There's no reason to have a corporation as gatekeeper to what gets onto the internet, and that won't happen. It's very easy to create alternatives. I don't think Trump will be back as a political force, but that's not based on the ability of Mark Zuckerberg to keep him hidden from us. I think it's that enough of the American people have woken up to where his style of demagoguery leads. In other words, I'm counting on the intelligence of the American people to keep him out. That's kind of a risky strategy. That's a joke, right?
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12th January 2021, 09:04 AM	#451
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 7,436	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Democrats can't heal the divide and call for unity, because Trump and his Republicans have taken away all their legitimacy to do so: you will never accept that I give you half of my money as reconciliation if you are convinced that I stole all that money from you. Before Biden and the rest of the Democrats can work on making the US less partisan, Republicans have to admit to their voters that they lied about the Election being rigged and that fully support Biden's win as unquestionably legitimate. I think that it's a bit more basic, honestly. Democrats indeed can't heal the divide, because they're really, really not responsible for it. Democrats honestly have been trying to work with Republicans pretty much all along, for that matter. At the moment, there's quite a lot of Democrats who don't want to work with or trust Republicans, yes... as a direct result of the unending stream of false accusations, the constant bad faith they show, the party over country, the outright sedition they've riled up and engaged in, etc. If Republicans would act in good faith and act to actually do good things, Democrats in general would immediately be happy to make good things happen. The focus by Republicans (and conservatives in general) seems to be more about the people, and support is far more based on how friendly they are with the people. The Democrats (and liberals in general) seem to be far more focused on policy, on the other hand. Sorta a case in point can be seen with reactions to Obama and Trump. Obama supports a claimed Republican priority? Republicans attack Obama anyways and work to prevent it from happening. Trump supports a claimed Democratic priority? Democrats are immediately on board, regardless of how much they dislike Trump himself. What "healing" even can the Democrats offer at all on their side when the fundamental problem is that Republicans are attacking Democrats in bad faith and have been for a very extended period of time? Democrats can seek to directly help a heck of a lot of Republicans and it's guaranteed that they'll get attacked hard for trying to help. Republicans can seek to directly harm a heck of a lot of Republicans and it's pretty well guaranteed they'll be cheered on in their efforts.
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12th January 2021, 09:34 AM	#452
Squeegee Beckenheim Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 31,221	https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1349018177624289282 Quote: Trump on impeachment: "For Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to continue on this path, I think it's causing tremendous danger to our county and it's causing tremendous anger. I want no violence." Footage embedded in tweet. Nice country you've got here. Be a shame if something were to...happen to it.
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12th January 2021, 09:38 AM	#453
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 30,535	Hits the Democrats When the cops show up you tell them you feel down the stairs do you hear me! Hits them again
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12th January 2021, 09:41 AM	#454
Tero Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North American prairie Posts: 2,199	Originally Posted by Meadmaker You think he won't be able to reach people because Twitter won't give him an account? What the internet has enabled is cheap publication by anyone to anyone. There's no reason to have a corporation as gatekeeper to what gets onto the internet, and that won't happen. It's very easy to create alternatives. I don't think Trump will be back as a political force, but that's not based on the ability of Mark Zuckerberg to keep him hidden from us. I think it's that enough of the American people have woken up to where his style of demagoguery leads. In other words, I'm counting on the intelligence of the American people to keep him out. That's kind of a risky strategy. You have misunderstood the role of social media. You do not get the coverage from Parler Gab or even this forum. You have to have tens of millions read your message immediately. Otherwise it has no effect. A Trump II, anyone, would need to tone down their populist message. But the Trumpsters by then have gone total conspiracy nut route, a toned down Trump will not work.
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12th January 2021, 09:42 AM	#455
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 96,804	Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1349018177624289282 Footage embedded in tweet. Nice country you've got here. Be a shame if something were to...happen to it. And looking at the crowded people in the background another superspreader party!
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12th January 2021, 11:28 AM	#456
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,820	In Rules Committee hearing, Jim Jordan opposes using 25A to remove Trump saying, "we should use this time to bring the nation together." Chairman McGovern asks Jordan if he will say Biden "won fair and square." Jordan refuses to say this.

12th January 2021, 11:36 AM	#457
Meadmaker Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,179	Originally Posted by Tero You have misunderstood the role of social media. You do not get the coverage from Parler Gab or even this forum. You have to have tens of millions read your message immediately. Otherwise it has no effect. A Trump II, anyone, would need to tone down their populist message. But the Trumpsters by then have gone total conspiracy nut route, a toned down Trump will not work. Two posts before yours, there's a post with Donald Trump talking, on Twitter. Come to think of it, I don't use twitter. I don't have a twitter account. And yet, thanks to Captain Swoop, I have seen darned near every tweet Trump has made in the last year. The next Trump will know how to get his message out, including his brief little tweet-like rants, to anyone who wants to see them, and a whole lot of people who don't want to see him. Don't count on private censorship to keep the message away from the public.
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12th January 2021, 11:46 AM	#458
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,820	Brian Kilmeade on Fox again says Dems shouldn't pursue impeachment because Republicans are threatening mass violence "We see what's happening around this country, how 50 state houses are being threatened on Inauguration Day, this is the last thing you want to do"

12th January 2021, 11:50 AM	#459
Resume Troublesome Passenger Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 18,810	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Brian Kilmeade on Fox again says Dems shouldn't pursue impeachment because Republicans are threatening mass violence "We see what's happening around this country, how 50 state houses are being threatened on Inauguration Day, this is the last thing you want to do" I thought we didn't give in to terrorists.

12th January 2021, 11:53 AM	#460
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 28,163	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop Brian Kilmeade on Fox again says Dems shouldn't pursue impeachment because Republicans are threatening mass violence "We see what's happening around this country, how 50 state houses are being threatened on Inauguration Day, this is the last thing you want to do" Originally Posted by Resume I thought we didn't give in to terrorists. Exactly. As if letting him off the hook will stop violence.
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12th January 2021, 11:54 AM	#461
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,878	Originally Posted by Resume I thought we didn't give in to terrorists. They were only joking about that.
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12th January 2021, 11:54 AM	#462
Jungle Jim Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,217	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop In Rules Committee hearing, Jim Jordan opposes using 25A to remove Trump saying, "we should use this time to bring the nation together." Chairman McGovern asks Jordan if he will say Biden "won fair and square." Jordan refuses to say this. Is that the same Jim Jordan who was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom?

12th January 2021, 12:00 PM	#463
trustbutverify Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 8,878	Originally Posted by Jungle Jim Is that the same Jim Jordan who was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom? By the way, is it to much to ask to not award the medal of freedom to pro golfers whose only qualification is their support of the president?
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12th January 2021, 12:10 PM	#464
Tero Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: North American prairie Posts: 2,199	Originally Posted by Meadmaker Two posts before yours, there's a post with Donald Trump talking, on Twitter. Come to think of it, I don't use twitter. I don't have a twitter account. And yet, thanks to Captain Swoop, I have seen darned near every tweet Trump has made in the last year. The next Trump will know how to get his message out, including his brief little tweet-like rants, to anyone who wants to see them, and a whole lot of people who don't want to see him. Don't count on private censorship to keep the message away from the public. One little video. It's working spectacularly well at driving our Trump nuts.
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12th January 2021, 12:18 PM	#465
wareyin Philosopher Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 8,280	Originally Posted by Meadmaker Two posts before yours, there's a post with Donald Trump talking, on Twitter. Come to think of it, I don't use twitter. I don't have a twitter account. And yet, thanks to Captain Swoop, I have seen darned near every tweet Trump has made in the last year. The next Trump will know how to get his message out, including his brief little tweet-like rants, to anyone who wants to see them, and a whole lot of people who don't want to see him. Don't count on private censorship to keep the message away from the public. I don't tweet either, but my impression is that Captain Swoop wasn't even sharing 1/10th of Trump's tweets here.

12th January 2021, 12:28 PM	#466
Paul2 Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,580	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop In Rules Committee hearing, Jim Jordan opposes using 25A to remove Trump saying, "we should use this time to bring the nation together." Chairman McGovern asks Jordan if he will say Biden "won fair and square." Jordan refuses to say this. That's the problem in a nutshell.
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12th January 2021, 12:39 PM	#467
Dr. Keith Not a doctor. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 22,388	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop In Rules Committee hearing, Jim Jordan opposes using 25A to remove Trump saying, "we should use this time to bring the nation together." Chairman McGovern asks Jordan if he will say Biden "won fair and square." Jordan refuses to say this. If they can stay on that message every time a Trumper whines about divisiveness I think they may actually get something done.
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12th January 2021, 12:48 PM	#468
alfaniner Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sorth Dakonsin Posts: 24,835	Originally Posted by wareyin I don't tweet either, but my impression is that Captain Swoop wasn't even sharing 1/10th of Trump's tweets here. Someday soon someone is going to publish a book with every single Trump Tweet during his Presidency in it. I expect it will be in a very small font.
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12th January 2021, 02:43 PM	#469
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 31,820	NEW: McConnell has told associates he believes Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him!!! https://nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/mc...-trump-mc.html

12th January 2021, 02:44 PM	#470
zooterkin Nitpicking dilettante Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Berkshire, mostly Posts: 48,342	McConnell backs the impeachment. Quote: Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, has told associates that he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking. The House is voting on Wednesday to formally charge Mr. Trump with inciting violence against the country.
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12th January 2021, 02:46 PM	#471
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,966	Originally Posted by alfaniner Someday soon someone is going to publish a book with every single Trump Tweet during his Presidency in it. I expect it will be in a very small font. "A" book?

12th January 2021, 02:50 PM	#472
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 32,351	Originally Posted by zooterkin McConnell backs the impeachment. That means Trump is totally ******, right? Dave
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12th January 2021, 02:51 PM	#473
dasmiller Just the right amount of cowbell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Well past Hither, looking for Yon Posts: 6,379	Originally Posted by zooterkin McConnell backs the impeachment. I saw that, too. I'm absolutely boggled. I mean, I thought that McConnell had concluded that Trump was a liability and wanted him out, but I didn't think he'd actually let it be known that he felt that way.
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12th January 2021, 02:52 PM	#474
dasmiller Just the right amount of cowbell Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Well past Hither, looking for Yon Posts: 6,379	Originally Posted by Dave Rogers That means Trump is totally ******, right? Dave If McConnell openly takes a position like that, yes.
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12th January 2021, 02:52 PM	#475
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 17,966	Originally Posted by zooterkin Quote: Quote: Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, has told associates that he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking. The House is voting on Wednesday to formally charge Mr. Trump with inciting violence against the country. McConnell backs the impeachment. I'll believe it when I see him say it publicly.
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