GOP donor wants money back after voter fraud lawsuit fails.

Ranb · 16th February 2021, 10:44 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/15/polit...ion/index.html

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A Republican donor who gave $2.5 million for a voter fraud investigation by a conservative nonprofit has come to regret his decision and doubt the conspiracy theories that fueled the effort,....

True the Vote's election lawsuits were ultimately abandoned, the newspaper reported, prompting Eshelman to demand that his money be returned. After the organization offered to return just $1 million, Eshelman launched two lawsuits.

So he has money to burn, and now he wants it back? I wonder how many other suckers are going to sue to get their money back after donating it to a scam like this?

Ranb

pgwenthold · 16th February 2021, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Ranb

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/15/polit...ion/index.html

So he has money to burn, and now he wants it back? I wonder how many other suckers are going to sue to get their money back after donating it to a scam like this?

Ranb

But see, now the campaign will have to spend money on legal fees to fight the lawsuit, so it is going to good use.

I seriously want to know if this person really thought there was a chance to win? Presumably, if they've got that much money laying around, they have access to good legal advice, and could ask the question, "Do any of these lawsuits have a chance in hell of succeeding?" At which point the answer from any competent lawyer would have been, of course not.

Ranb · 16th February 2021, 10:51 AM

That is why I called the poor chump a sucker.

ponderingturtle · 16th February 2021, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by pgwenthold

But see, now the campaign will have to spend money on legal fees to fight the lawsuit, so it is going to good use.

I seriously want to know if this person really thought there was a chance to win? Presumably, if they've got that much money laying around, they have access to good legal advice, and could ask the question, "Do any of these lawsuits have a chance in hell of succeeding?" At which point the answer from any competent lawyer would have been, of course not.

But think about all the billable hours poor legal advice can rack up with this guy?

I think this all falls under "A fool and his money are soon parted" Though with how foolish this guy seems to be, it is kind of a shock he had the 2.5 mill laying around to donate to this hucksters.

Skeptic Ginger · 16th February 2021, 11:21 AM

All that and he's still not sure there wasn't enough voter fraud to change the election outcome.

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Eshelman told the Post he still thinks there was "some misbehavior" in the presidential election.

"But do I believe it might have risen to a degree that would change the electoral outcome?" he said. "I don't know."

Did any of the reporters ask him how he thinks such a big conspiracy occurred yet remained undetectable? Specifically given the supposed questioned votes were across multiple states, including some with Republicans running the elections and with at least one state, Georgia counting their paper ballots by hand which then matched Dominion's count.

Skeptic Ginger · 16th February 2021, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

But think about all the billable hours poor legal advice can rack up with this guy?

I think this all falls under "A fool and his money are soon parted" Though with how foolish this guy seems to be, it is kind of a shock he had the 2.5 mill laying around to donate to this hucksters.

He should have taken the million back. I think legally this will cause him trouble:

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A lawyer for the group, James Bopp, also told the Post that Eshelman had not placed any conditions on his donation.

I donated money to help a wrongly accused day care cook get out on bail and fight the charges in one of those stupid Satanic worship cases. The lawyer actually called me to clarify if I wanted the money back once the bail was returned and I told them no. So I believe it matters if you do or do not direct that the money be spent a certain way.

This man is at least a millionaire and he bought into a big lie. That degree of CT belief in the country is worrisome. It's bad enough billionaires like the Kochs and the Mercers try to buy influence for their extremist views. It's another when these guys believe outright lies that go against overwhelming evidence.

Olmstead · 16th February 2021, 11:34 AM

The guy has millions of dollars that he can spend on a whim, and he's wasting his time with this? Rich people are weird.

TragicMonkey · 16th February 2021, 12:50 PM

When you think of all the good uses to which that money could have been put...ugh. All the wrong people have money.

dudalb · 16th February 2021, 04:59 PM

This will be like trying to get Professor Harold Hill to refund money on band instruments and uniforms...

pgwenthold · 16th February 2021, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Olmstead

The guy has millions of dollars that he can spend on a whim, and he's wasting his time with this? Rich people are weird.

smartcooky · 16th February 2021, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by pgwenthold

Bwhahahaha! That doesn't just have an element of truth to it... that is the bloody truth!!!

16th February 2021, 10:44 AM	#1
Ranb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA USA Posts: 10,261	GOP donor wants money back after voter fraud lawsuit fails. https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/15/polit...ion/index.html Quote: A Republican donor who gave $2.5 million for a voter fraud investigation by a conservative nonprofit has come to regret his decision and doubt the conspiracy theories that fueled the effort,.... True the Vote's election lawsuits were ultimately abandoned, the newspaper reported, prompting Eshelman to demand that his money be returned. After the organization offered to return just $1 million, Eshelman launched two lawsuits. So he has money to burn, and now he wants it back? I wonder how many other suckers are going to sue to get their money back after donating it to a scam like this? Ranb

16th February 2021, 10:48 AM	#2
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 20,129	Originally Posted by Ranb https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/15/polit...ion/index.html So he has money to burn, and now he wants it back? I wonder how many other suckers are going to sue to get their money back after donating it to a scam like this? Ranb But see, now the campaign will have to spend money on legal fees to fight the lawsuit, so it is going to good use. I seriously want to know if this person really thought there was a chance to win? Presumably, if they've got that much money laying around, they have access to good legal advice, and could ask the question, "Do any of these lawsuits have a chance in hell of succeeding?" At which point the answer from any competent lawyer would have been, of course not.
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16th February 2021, 10:55 AM	#4
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,412	Originally Posted by pgwenthold But see, now the campaign will have to spend money on legal fees to fight the lawsuit, so it is going to good use. I seriously want to know if this person really thought there was a chance to win? Presumably, if they've got that much money laying around, they have access to good legal advice, and could ask the question, "Do any of these lawsuits have a chance in hell of succeeding?" At which point the answer from any competent lawyer would have been, of course not. But think about all the billable hours poor legal advice can rack up with this guy? I think this all falls under "A fool and his money are soon parted" Though with how foolish this guy seems to be, it is kind of a shock he had the 2.5 mill laying around to donate to this hucksters.
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16th February 2021, 11:34 AM	#7
Olmstead Critical Thinker Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 413	The guy has millions of dollars that he can spend on a whim, and he's wasting his time with this? Rich people are weird.
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16th February 2021, 12:50 PM	#8
TragicMonkey Poisoned Waffles Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monkey Posts: 59,443	When you think of all the good uses to which that money could have been put...ugh. All the wrong people have money.
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16th February 2021, 10:51 AM	#3
Ranb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA USA Posts: 10,261	That is why I called the poor chump a sucker.

16th February 2021, 11:21 AM	#5
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 86,832	All that and he's still not sure there wasn't enough voter fraud to change the election outcome. Quote: Eshelman told the Post he still thinks there was "some misbehavior" in the presidential election. "But do I believe it might have risen to a degree that would change the electoral outcome?" he said. "I don't know." Did any of the reporters ask him how he thinks such a big conspiracy occurred yet remained undetectable? Specifically given the supposed questioned votes were across multiple states, including some with Republicans running the elections and with at least one state, Georgia counting their paper ballots by hand which then matched Dominion's count.

16th February 2021, 11:30 AM	#6
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 86,832	Originally Posted by ponderingturtle But think about all the billable hours poor legal advice can rack up with this guy? I think this all falls under "A fool and his money are soon parted" Though with how foolish this guy seems to be, it is kind of a shock he had the 2.5 mill laying around to donate to this hucksters. He should have taken the million back. I think legally this will cause him trouble: Quote: A lawyer for the group, James Bopp, also told the Post that Eshelman had not placed any conditions on his donation. I donated money to help a wrongly accused day care cook get out on bail and fight the charges in one of those stupid Satanic worship cases. The lawyer actually called me to clarify if I wanted the money back once the bail was returned and I told them no. So I believe it matters if you do or do not direct that the money be spent a certain way. This man is at least a millionaire and he bought into a big lie. That degree of CT belief in the country is worrisome. It's bad enough billionaires like the Kochs and the Mercers try to buy influence for their extremist views. It's another when these guys believe outright lies that go against overwhelming evidence.

16th February 2021, 04:59 PM	#9
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,311	This will be like trying to get Professor Harold Hill to refund money on band instruments and uniforms...
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16th February 2021, 06:05 PM	#10
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 20,129	Originally Posted by Olmstead The guy has millions of dollars that he can spend on a whim, and he's wasting his time with this? Rich people are weird.
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16th February 2021, 09:29 PM	#11
smartcooky Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Nelson, New Zealand Posts: 16,761	Originally Posted by pgwenthold Bwhahahaha! That doesn't just have an element of truth to it... that is the bloody truth!!!
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