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Old 13th January 2021, 02:18 PM   #1
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How bad it will get next week?

Pretty damn bad. I think the impeachment will inflame the TRumpers even more.
More people will die, sadly.
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Old 13th January 2021, 02:22 PM   #2
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I think there have been people planning violence.
When it happens, Republicans will blame the impeachment.

And I find that pretty much in line with the attempts to shift responsibility we've seen from the GOP for a long long time. It's just another variation of the abuser's "Look what you made me do"
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Old 13th January 2021, 02:23 PM   #3
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Bad. It will be very bad.

I hope I am wrong.
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Old 13th January 2021, 02:31 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Shalamar View Post
Bad. It will be very bad.

I hope I am wrong.
I live in Sacramento and am goind to stay in my House as much as possible.
My Wife works downtown..though mainly at home because of the COvid..., near Capitol Park, and she goes in twice a week to get some stuff done she cannot do from home not next week.
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Old 13th January 2021, 02:36 PM   #5
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I am hoping it is a lot of sound and fury, but with the National Guards in place in many hotspots hope the insurrection-prone types will wander off muttering.

But I also expect something dumb to happen in a place where nobody expects, like North Dakota has a full seizing of the state legislature by Proud Boys and Oathkeepers, where the Republican lean had them feeling safe.
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Old 13th January 2021, 02:38 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I live in Sacramento and am goind to stay in my House as much as possible.
My Wife works downtown..though mainly at home because of the COvid..., near Capitol Park, and she goes in twice a week to get some stuff done she cannot do from home not next week.
I'm working again, thus driving all over the Puget Sound. Including Olympia. I am.. concerned.
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I had the feeling this morning that I should go out and stock up a bit.
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Old 13th January 2021, 02:43 PM   #8
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Devil's advocate:

1:Arrests of many of the Capitol rioters, however late, shows that such actions can have consequences adverse to the rioters. The social media name and shame campaign adds to that.

2: National Guard and Law Enforcement woke up and don't want to be embarrassed again. They seem to be much more alert now.

3: These people cry when the revolution is stopped by a can of mace. They need help getting down the steps. There are some pretty committed people in that movement, but the great majority will look at items #1 and #2 and wilt away.

They talk the talk but most of them are not brave enough to walk the walk, not if they know there will be consequences.

To add to that, most of them are just not terribly functional people. They don't really know how to take over the government, even if the government put up no resistance at all.

Now, if they could figure in advance how to blame it on Antifa....

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Old 13th January 2021, 02:48 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by kookbreaker View Post
I am hoping it is a lot of sound and fury, but with the National Guards in place in many hotspots hope the insurrection-prone types will wander off muttering.

But I also expect something dumb to happen in a place where nobody expects, like North Dakota has a full seizing of the state legislature by Proud Boys and Oathkeepers, where the Republican lean had them feeling safe.
My concern is they will go after "Soft Targets" and create a big body count.
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Old 13th January 2021, 02:56 PM   #10
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I expect that it will be the worst presidential transition since Lincoln.

I am sure that there will be at least several deaths, hundreds injured, and millions of dollars in damages around the country due to that POS Trump.
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Old 13th January 2021, 02:58 PM   #11
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I think will be a terrorist act somewhere or in a few places, possibly a car bomb or a shooting, a lot of chaos in others, maybe some destruction of property, most places just noise or too few to be a security threat.

I hope not.
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Old 13th January 2021, 03:07 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Shalamar View Post
I'm working again, thus driving all over the Puget Sound. Including Olympia. I am.. concerned.
That show of force in Olympia makes me feel much more comfortable.
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Old 13th January 2021, 03:11 PM   #14
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That show of force in Olympia makes me feel much more comfortable.
Danger is they might pick a softer targer like Democratic Headquarters in Washington.
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Old 13th January 2021, 03:33 PM   #15
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I think DC should be pretty safe. I do worry more about the idiots in the hinterland making some totally meaningless gesture causing injury or death.
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Old 13th January 2021, 03:37 PM   #16
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To add to that, most of them are just not terribly functional people. They don't really know how to take over the government, even if the government put up no resistance at all.
Along those lines, I suspect that they are not fundamentally interested in cooperating with each other, either.

It seems to me that every conspiracy theorist subscribes to a slightly different conspiracy theory.
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Along those lines, I suspect that they are not fundamentally interested in cooperating with each other, either.

It seems to me that every conspiracy theorist subscribes to a slightly different conspiracy theory.
Kind of like religion.
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Danger is they might pick a softer targer like Democratic Headquarters in Washington.
Always possible. Domestic terrorism is now by far the biggest threat to this country.
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I live in Sacramento and am goind to stay in my House as much as possible.
My Wife works downtown..though mainly at home because of the COvid..., near Capitol Park, and she goes in twice a week to get some stuff done she cannot do from home not next week.
Can she not make sure that those times she goes in are not on the 16th to 20th?

Weekend before the inauguration and the inauguration itself will be worth avoiding the capitol.
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maybe bad but I’m tired of coddling those snowflakes.

he ******* lost, time to stop entertaining their fantasies
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If only there was some way to get these morans to go shoot at and then push over hundreds of miles of government-paid-for structures where it doesn't actually matter. So they can take out their anger in a more "constructive" way...

Here's an idea!

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The government should be doing three things:

1. Cut off their transportation and housing as much as possible. They should be canceling flights and buses, closing hotels, and setting up checkpoints on major roads and searching anyone suspicious.

2. A major show of force. If insurrectionists shoot, meet them with 100 times the force.

3. If any insurrectionists take over any buildings, cut off all power, heat, water and communications, and starve them out.
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I predict mostly nothing. Lots of yapping. Not much else.


But I could be wrong, in which case that would totally suck.
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How would the PTB stop some drooling idiot buzzing the inauguration with a hobbyist drone they'd bought on Amazon? Obviously much worse things could happen - and well might - but minor but highly conspicuous 'demonstrations' seem highly likely to me. I wouldn't mind betting the ceremony is switched to indoors.
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Devil's advocate:

1:Arrests of many of the Capitol rioters, however late, shows that such actions can have consequences adverse to the rioters. The social media name and shame campaign adds to that.

2: National Guard and Law Enforcement woke up and don't want to be embarrassed again. They seem to be much more alert now.

3: These people cry when the revolution is stopped by a can of mace. They need help getting down the steps. There are some pretty committed people in that movement, but the great majority will look at items #1 and #2 and wilt away.

They talk the talk but most of them are not brave enough to walk the walk, not if they know there will be consequences.

To add to that, most of them are just not terribly functional people. They don't really know how to take over the government, even if the government put up no resistance at all.

Now, if they could figure in advance how to blame it on Antifa....
Counterpoint:

These sound a bit like the rebuttals I've gotten online (I believe including this forum) when I expressed fear that Trump would activate his minions to violence to try to keep his position.

I've been hearing for two months that we'd never see a big crowd using violence for Trump because they would be too afraid or too weak or too geriatric to act violently when real consequences were on the line. That they were all bark.

That didn't turn out to be the case.

I would like to think some are discouraged, or disillusioned. But I know some are also enraged. I think more attempts at violence are pretty much certain. The question is whether their potential targets will be prepared enough to prevent more loss of life.
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How GOOD will it get next week? The trees of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. WE THE PEOPLE. Let's go!
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How would the PTB stop some drooling idiot buzzing the inauguration with a hobbyist drone they'd bought on Amazon? Obviously much worse things could happen - and well might - but minor but highly conspicuous 'demonstrations' seem highly likely to me. I wouldn't mind betting the ceremony is switched to indoors.
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Devil's advocate:

2: National Guard and Law Enforcement woke up and don't want to be embarrassed again. They seem to be much more alert now.
To this point in particular, the D.C. National guard unit reports directly to the President.

Outside guard units can only assist in the capital given the authorization of the secretary of defense.

I don't know a whole lot about Christopher C. Miller, current acting secretary of defense, except that he was chosen by Trump after the election loss and he denied Maryland guard access until Pence stepped in.

I do not have great faith that the deployment of the DC guard or the cooperation with outside guard units will be managed in good faith, given they're in the hands of the same leader the violent insurectionists are trying to support.
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With a 2A shotgun wielded by a lawfully armed cop.
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To this point in particular, the D.C. National guard unit reports directly to the President.

Outside guard units can only assist in the capital given the authorization of the secretary of defense.

I don't know a whole lot about Christopher C. Miller, current acting secretary of defense, except that he was chosen by Trump after the election loss and he denied Maryland guard access until Pence stepped in.

I do not have great faith that the deployment of the DC guard or the cooperation with outside guard units will be managed in good faith, given they're in the hands of the same leader the violent insurectionists are trying to support.
The Secret Service has taken over responsibility (and I think command authority) early.
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My prediction: pretty bad. Defined as a lot of riots and several deaths.
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Trump just went bumpity bump then reversed and went bumpity bump again over his followers with the big red MAGA bus

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/trump-...video-message/

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The Secret Service has taken over responsibility (and I think command authority) early.
The same Secret service also headed by a very recent Trump appointee with reports of being riddled with Trump loyalists?

"Oh, but they're professionals, they're all about duty to country and peaceful transition"

Like the many off duty law enforcement who participated in the seige on democracy?

I'm not so sure my fears are entirely quelled.
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I think his rabid followers are already so worked up her himself can't call them off. That Trump was forced to make this statement is pretty clear.
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Trump just went bumpity bump then reversed and went bumpity bump again over his followers with the big red MAGA bus

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/<span ...video-message/
Trump calling for peace and unity? Pfft. A day late and a dollar short, puddin'.... your snowball has already started to roll down the mountain.
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Trump just went bumpity bump then reversed and went bumpity bump again over his followers with the big red MAGA bus

https://nypost.com/2021/01/13/trump-...video-message/
Trump plans to make a number of these videos now that his socials have been strangled. All FAR too late because this won't make a whit of difference now. Some of the MAGAbeserkers have even left Trump behind in their push to catastrophe.

ETA: ninja'd by a moose. Oh the shame.
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I am hoping it is a lot of sound and fury, but with the National Guards in place in many hotspots hope the insurrection-prone types will wander off muttering.

But I also expect something dumb to happen in a place where nobody expects, like North Dakota has a full seizing of the state legislature by Proud Boys and Oathkeepers, where the Republican lean had them feeling safe.
I'm with you.

It won't be terrible.

If they attack, they'll get repelled. Some might die. Most likely they won't have what it takes for that because they can see that there's no point.

I'm more concerned about what happens after the 20th. I think it will be bad (stochastic terrorism & political assassinations).
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With a 2A shotgun wielded by a lawfully armed cop.
Out there on the balcony, in the middle of the inauguration ceremony? That would be a triumph for the drooling moron brigade and I don't think the PTB would want that even to be a possibility. Nah, I truly believe it will be switched to indoors.
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