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6th July 2008, 08:02 PM | #41 |
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6th July 2008, 11:32 PM | #45 |
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6th July 2008, 11:37 PM | #46 |
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[quote=Childlike Empress;3838508](edit @JamesB, hello Brainster) Yeah, and as everyone who uses their brain knows, we can't take a position beside of "the official story is not the whole story" because we don't have access to evidence. The "alternative hypothesis" challenge is laugably stupid.
Oh, fence-sitters again. JamesB and Brainster are the two persons behind the screw loose change blog. A place where everybody including Nico Haupt, a german actor dealing in realsatire is welcome as long as he is smearing activists.[/quote] (Bolding mine) Arrant rubbish! You seem to miss the endless ad hominems and lies posted by Truthers over at SLC, Truthers who somehow do not get banned or have their posts removed. |
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7th July 2008, 04:03 AM | #48 |
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Mr Chairman, Mr. Chairman! This committee has got to go to the policy, Senator! A link to the last Jon Gold interview I listened to...the Opie and Anthony interview.
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7th July 2008, 06:08 AM | #51 |
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I'm wondering if there was anything factually incorrect in the video posted in the OT?
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7th July 2008, 07:57 AM | #52 |
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7th July 2008, 10:21 AM | #54 |
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7th July 2008, 10:23 AM | #55 |
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Is Jon Gold the holocaust denail guy?
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7th July 2008, 10:30 AM | #56 |
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The OP never bothered to actually discuss the video, but rather simply present it as spam. Perhaps if she had bothered to actually bring up the points of the video, there would be a much more fruitful discussion. But instead, in typical twoofer fashion, she decides to present someone else's video as her argument rather than make one.
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7th July 2008, 10:50 AM | #57 |
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My dear Empress, we know who Jon Gold is and what "he's all about." He's gotten much worse in the last year.
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Charming man. |
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Sorry for resurrecting at random one of the threads with the tag "Jon Gold". I just have to report that I have found the place where the real truth movement happens: In the middle of traffic where everybody just wants to hurry home.
Jon is crating a series of YT videos these days where he is literally preaching to a lamp post and proud of it - I am not making this up: Jan 05: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G1xZY8XH8E Jan 07: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nYUtqp5ZCc Jan 09: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8DGQis-LVA (Videos are only between 1:12 and 2:37 minutes - click for the dada lulz!) |
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11th January 2017, 04:21 PM | #60 |
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Oh crimes he's in Philly. On route 1.
5 seconds in he says he "just got a honk" just after when a light changes. Nope, no chance that could be a driver impatient with how fast another car is making the turn. No siree.... |
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Holy moly, Oystein, now this bump is a flashback with some "characters" involved (and obviously some "hard breaks", oh the good old times of "moderation").
From the additional information, I conclude that the non-working video in the OP is this one:
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11th January 2017, 09:33 PM | #63 |
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Jon, the FBI did the investigation, and it was the biggest in history. Jon's BS is political claptrap. Jon adds BS about political opinions and lies. At least Jon does not support the idiotic claims CIT had.
Past the date, there is nothing worthwhile from 9/11 truth in fifteen years of failure. Nope, just BS on the political side of 9/11 truth. (jon, you are acting paranoid, and have failed to make a valid point) Better luck with Bigfoot out in western PA. |
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12th January 2017, 11:42 AM | #65 |
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One wonders why finger-boy isn't there during rush hour. Its obviously the middle of the day rather than when more people would be around.
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12th January 2017, 04:46 PM | #66 |
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It really is quite sad that he wastes his time hanging out on street corners. He mentioned a few times in his interviews that he was in an accident and paralyzed; I suppose he's got nothing else to do.
Note as well that although Gold claims he's not a conspiracy theorist, that he's just looking for answers, he lets the mask slip a bit in the first video where he says, "9-11 was not a Muslim crime." |
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17th January 2017, 04:30 AM | #67 |
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What would interest me about Jon.... is when/if presented with arguments of why the inside job / CD makes no sense how would he respond? Would he accept them? Understand them? Even be interested in them? What would it take for him to see the deception of so many of the truth presentations? He seems motivated by "justice" for the survivor families and there is nothing wrong with this. If justice has been denied... how so? What would that look like to him? More compensation? Or would it involve identifying and punishing the people behind the event... whomever they are?
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17th January 2017, 01:41 PM | #68 |
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His unwavering mantra is "We have been lied to about 9/11", but apparently he is fine with associating with anybody who lies the living hell out of 9/11, as long as it's not the "government's" lies.
Therein lies a tragedy. I agree that "the government" has passed a few lies about stuff in the orbit around 9/11, and some of those lies may still be uncorrected and not redressed. Perhaps. But as long as Jon is part of the hugely discredited Twoof Movement, no one can take him serious. He (along with well-meaning and perhaps not totally wrong-being folks like our paloalto, jimd, shure) should change his act, reach out to groups like us and celebrities like Jon Stewart. |
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23rd January 2017, 07:10 AM | #69 |
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Institutional CYA is the rule rather than the exception.
A bunch of folks all across the spectrum failed to connect the dots, even when some individuals farther down the chain of command started to point it out. It's a common issue in LE that command may have a priority order to focus on a particular type of criminal activity or a criminal group and ignore intelligence developed by officers that don't fit the administrators enforcement agenda. I believe a bunch of that went down wrt 9/11. |
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