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#641 |
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Did you attend english classes in school? I clearly said I have no memory of it..
Yes they touched me up and anally probed me, is that what your school child like mind wants to hear? The worst anal probing ever.... Oh yeah so funny.. I'm in stitches, anal! You like the word anal you want to hear it mentioned as you involved "touching" even though I have no memory of it |
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Cjdelphi, a flying saucer could land on the White House lawn later today, a bunch of green-skinned four-foot-tall aliens march out of it, announce a deal to to trade their technology for our zzz-zzinc, and issue a formal apology for the millions of times they've flown over towns abducting people... And I still wouldn't believe your video shows one of those times. Everything in it is consistent with completely normal phenomena: a local power outage caused by an animal shorting a piece of equipment, a recloser performing its intended function causing a transient in the power lines to your home, causing different lights (from among the same lights that light the scene before the outage) to flicker for a few video frames, a habitually glitchy video camera being glitchy, and one odd electronic sound caused by some other electrically powered device in the room reacting oddly to the transient power. (You keep misrepresenting the transient power caused by a recliner's normal operation as a "brownout" but that's not what the word means. The transient is can be up to the full line voltage, but when it doesn't stay on long enough to charge up the capacitors in power supply circuits or overcome the capacitive impedance of the branch lines, devices won't power on fully, and whether or not any given device appears to briefly "turn on" depends on design factors and chance. A brownout is sustained power of significantly lower than nominal voltage, which is a different thing and causes different behavior.) With the exception of the glitchy camera, I've seen all these things happen during local power outages, the most recent of which was also caused by an animal shorting equipment (though falling trees and branches are a far more common cause here). It took several such events to figure out that a certain strange buzzing sound that happened during reclosure glitches was coming from my gas oven. It has electronic controls but no buzzer (it uses a high-pitched beep for alerts) but given a transient power spike it buzzes nonetheless. I don't know why and I don't really care, and I certainly don't know (and don't really care either) which of the devices in your room might have done something similar. I predict that someday, there will be some other power irregularity in your lines, and you'll hear that same sound again, but while awake this time. And you'll say to yourself either, "OMG the aliens have come back for me!" or "Oh, I guess I was wrong about it being aliens that other time." But based on this thread so far, probably the first one. |
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#643 |
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I've investigated them
I've seen them faked, I've seen 3D barcode style ones done, there's no truth to any of them except for 1 report which I believe stated it all off https://youtu.be/ap_gvUiJKGs He said he saw them hanging around a fresh water supply (I guess cleaner or fresher, lack of salts etc) sucking it up and while they were fuelling up the others were in a field waiting on the ground I've seen all the shapes and I've never seen a ufo shaped jellyfish or 3d bar code to make a 3d barcode or jelly fish shaped imprint into the ground The quicker you learn I'm an ex skeptic who has seen too much evidence , the better |
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You have not even discounted the possibility that you were hoaxed by pranksters.
This forum began as the James Randi Education Foundation forum. The late Mr Randi took a particular interest in people making paranormal claims and there are plenty of examples of serious scientists investigating such people being fooled by simple tricks because they just didn't think about the ways they might be deliberately fooled by a disingenuous subject. Randi by contrast was a magician, and professionally interested and well versed in many ways in which people get fooled. The foundation had a million dollar challenge for anyone who could demonstrate a paranormal ability in a test whose protocol was designed and agreed by both parties to eliminate all possibility of cheating. Of course it was never won. You have not even begun to eliminate the possibilities. |
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Insufficient evidence is still insufficient evidence. Even in a hypothetical world where aliens exist and act openly and everyone knows and acknowledges it, there would be more likely explanations for the content of your video than alien action. In that world, based on your video you accuse the aliens of abducting you in your sleep and causing lasting fatigue, which constitutes assault. You take them to court. But the aliens deny they were there that night. Their lawyer makes the same points I've been making in this thread. The judge and the process are fair, deciding based only on the evidence presented. Do you have any chance of winning the case? |
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My video is correct that's what it caught that is what happend and that will never change, skeptics will never be able to explain something that was never done by humans to begin with
Even with high resolution photos, people will say well.. even if they are nobody is being abducted We always play this game, and now the skeptics have way less pieces on the board vs belivers these days, we will learn more, if in 10 years we don't it may take 20, I hope it is much sooner like 2 to 3 years But they have it classified and we can't see it... period but even with high resolution videos and photos, that's not proof of alien abduction, that's just proof we are being visited If in 5 years you see high resolution photos of alien craft and possibly onboard creatures themselves will you believe my video and admit yes they are abducting us? Or will you want more proof of that, ok sure they are here but ... But nothing, they might be underwater in the air, hiding in the air, doesn't matter really does it, they could be everywhere it changes nothing about human civilisation But proof they abduct people is on a different level to them just being here, I'm excited it happened, sad they never took me, scared of what I may have experienced or seen .. Scared of knowing what happened if something did But as we both know high resolution photos of aliens so yeah big deal, but people don't know abductions are happening to people and not having a single clue.. Ever woken up feeling like a zombie? Were you aware of a flash of light? ... however unlikely those are the questions I now have for people who also witnessed this flash of light Google "flash of light outside window" "Camera flash outside window" They're all clueless what it was which is a far cry from "I was abducted by greys and anally probed" it means anyone could be a victim absolutely anyone including yourself And even if I'm the slightest bit close to what's going on, people should know! |
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But that's the point up until recently I believed only nutters said they were abducted, large eyes and probing ... ugh
It's bs, I bet that's what the government and the aliens want people to think, as long as it's only thrse crazies, the general population is safe.. But that is what this video is implying nobody is safe, people are being abducted, being extremely tired and that's it. Yes, too right it's assault, hence the anger part ... Just imagine for 1 second the guy next to you who went sleep early but woke up feeling like a truck hit him... you just don't know, that's why this video is so important, it's not the crazies being abducted it's everyone and anyone! |
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Okay, I will. My next question is what have you done to independently confirm what the cause of the power cut was?
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I've seen loads of high resolution photos of alien craft and creatures, having seen loads of science fiction films and TV series which heavily feature them. So it would certainly take more than that for me to believe that real alien craft and creatures are visiting my planet. But even if I'm convinced of that (and it would only take some actual objective evidence) I would still see no reason to believe that your highly imaginative interpretation of a perfectly ordinary video of a power cut was correct.
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I walked over there the next day so no damage no bbq'ed bats all looks fine, voltage checks out fine no fluctuations the last one was 7 or 8 years ago here
Not that all flashes are this obviously and not all people waking up tired are abduction victims, but if like all the people on google who are asking for help were indeed tired that next morning or anything unusual after experiencing a strange camera like flash, I'd seriously wonder if what's in this video happened to them But getting answers from 8 year old threads and from people who forgot they even asked the question is surprising difficult, I tracked down Ben Hanson, Nick.Pope, Shelly someone and Mufon and got replies before anyone ever gets back to me about their flash of light experience |
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Uh oh, you have seen alien creatures and craft? But you don't believe it, probably because it's fake, you haven't seen anything confirmed real... yet, get a move on navy... I've seen fake aliens it's all funny.. esp when they climb through the chimney, and people fall for CGI, people are idiots Regarding perfectly normal power cut video... If that was true nobody would be accusing me of faking it and sabotaging power lines now would they, the ones who have seen and understand what I'm saying did very much see what I did... I have 2 well respected ufo investigators agree I was visited if nothing else I do believe some people can not see the flash of light it's like it's invisible to them and 9 out of 10 non skeptics will never reply back to me, it is only the skeptics that do.. That's strange right? |
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I didn't say ONE WORD
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Person who believes polygraphs are A Real Working Thing and cites the word of a hypnotherapist for stuff complains that others are not proper sceptics...
Sounds about right for "UFO"/"alien visitation"/crytids'n'that. |
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Contrary to the title, Alien Visitation Contact Proof seems to be lacking in this thread. Merely copious amounts of I believe what I believe because I believe it. Just another in an apparently never-ending conga line of posters who have no real understanding of the word evidence.
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Yes but none of your reasonable-sounding explanations about power cuts explain the alien spaceship that flew overhead. And we know there was an alien spaceship because the power company blamed a bat but they did it on social media which clearly means they were just making it up therefore it was an alien spaceship. Checkmate, skeptics.
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Just to be clear: by “shocked into wakefulness”, I don’t mean “stunned by the revelation”, I literally mean, “woken up by the extremely loud noise - deafening within hundreds of meters - and by the extremely bright lightning display”. That would be the unavoidable consequence of what you claim was going on; that it didn’t happen refutes your central premise. And that you refuse to acknowledge it, let alone address it, indicates your unwillingness to learn anything.
“Poor me, those mean old people won’t accept what I say without thinking about it.” Quit your whining. For the record: I absolutely believe there is intelligent life on other planets. It’s possible they have even visited Earth. What you described is nothing like evidence for that, and in fact contradicts your own claim. |
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There's an old objection to visiting aliens: we don't pick up their radio signals.
I once posted that on a ufoology site, and at once recieved a gravely serious reply that of course advanced beings from another planet would communicate by means of technology far more advanced than radio. IOW, the absence of evidence was further proof of alien visits to our world. Thus ufoologists can find ever-firmer confirmation for their beliefs the more evidence is lacking. Let's see you skeptics and your skeptricks refute THAT! cjdelphi, can I come visit you in Austria? |
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See, this is the part where if I, as a ghost hunter conducting an interview, would thank you for your time, and get the hell out of the house.
1. You have provided no additional photographs of this location looking from multiple angles. 2. You have not given us a list of infrastructure equipment located nearby. All we have to this point are some videos that show nothing but a light during a power outage. I will remind you that you've been arguing with folks who have the relevant science backgrounds to understand space travel on both the functional level, and the theoretical levels. If an alien ship lands tomorrow at M.I.T. I can assure you that none of the technology onboard, nor the physics behind interstellar, or intergalactic travel would be understood by anyone there for quite some time. The idea that you've even wasted time hypothesizing the craft's propulsion suggests you've tried to shoehorn an exotic explanation for the sounds, instead of understanding that power-surges can produce the exact noises in the video if you are in the right place. |
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Obviously, those videos may have been altered (e.g. flashes or sound dubbed in). But even if everything shown is real, what do we have? A power outage, a couple of flashes of light and an odd sound coincident with one of the flashes of light. The videos, taken at face value, do not constitute anything remotely resembling evidence (let alone proof) that extra-terrestrial visitation happened.
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After 17 pages that contain some of the flimsiest claims for having an invisible friend I have ever read, I am convinced of nothing more than the mundane fact that some people are unreasonable beyond non-interventional help. Following a continued insistence of unjustified conclusions for so long has become pointless and boring. I will follow the lead of those before me and retire from this dreck-show (at least for a while).
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Not at all. Your video shows nothing that I would attribute to aliens, even given that they are proven to exist. Also, the existence of aliens in no way proves that they've abducted anyone
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Given the sheer size of the universe, it seems to me to be unlikely in the extreme that we are the only example of intelligent life. However, I think it is very likely that intelligent life is extremely rare. It also appears that interstellar travel is a very tough nut to crack technologically; so tough that it may well be impossible. So I have to say that it is possible, but pretty unlikely that we are, or have been visited. But even if my estimate of probability is way low, a power outage, a couple of flashes of light and a funny noise do not even rise to the level of "Maybe it was aliens".
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Regarding the bat: I'm not sure how close to you this alleged bat electrocution happened. I think you are right that such an event would make some noise, but I suspect the arc flash at night would be visible at a considerably larger distance than the sound would be audible. As far as the power company lying: While I would not put it past a power company to lie about their lines starting a fire, where they might have a significant liability, there really isn't any plausible reason for them to lie about the cause of a simple outage. Those can be caused by anything from an unfortunate bat or squirrel shorting out the line, to a tree branch contacting a line to equipment just wearing out.
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Here's why I don't care, even if there were convincing evidence you were visited. Because there are countless more important things to care about. Wars that are going on right now kill hundreds of people a day. A major war fought with weapons of mass destruction could directly and indirectly kill billions. Have you posted in our International Politics forum expressing any concerns about this? Infectious illness has continued, as it always has, to kill millions of people a year, and in recent years there's been a pandemic that (in addition to slightly raising the death rate) has impacted the world's economy. New pathogens and new variants of old ones threaten more pandemics. Have you posted in our Science and Medicine forum expressing any concerns about this? Murder, suicide, accidents, natural disasters, effects of climate change, misused drugs, hazardous work, and economic exploitation take their toll of human lives and well-being. Growing cultural and economic differences in our societies threaten to disrupt the complex systems that keep us provided with our needs. Have you posted in our Social Issues and Current Events forum expressing any concerns about this? You have not attempted to demonstrate why such "visits," even if they're really happening, are important. A "visit" made you tired for a few days? So could a minor cold, an unusually stressful work day, a night on the town, or an unwise all-nighter with a video game. Are you as worried about those scourges as you are about aliens? Ah, you say, but what if the aliens stop being literally the most harmless things on the planet, and suddenly act to destroy us or take over or steal all our resources? Well, in that case, mate, there's **** all we can do about it. As I posted earlier, an interstellar craft that can accomplish the task requires control of amounts of energy, and concentrations of power, that dwarf our entire industrial output by orders of magnitude. The difference in power between one of our nuclear powered aircraft carriers, and a starship of the same mass that can accelerate to a tenth of the speed of light in a year, is a factor of over 7,000,000. (And note that taking a year to reach a mere .1c, a speed that still requires decades or centuries to reach nearby stars, is as slow as a rowboat compared with the craft depicted in Star Wars, Star Trek, Close Encounters and so forth.) A pocket cigarette lighter, scaled up in power output by the same factor, would put out the energy of a ton of TNT (or 120 liters of gasoline when burned in air) every seven seconds. And if you can control and contain such concentrations of power—that is, flick the 600 megawatt cigarette lighter without burning your fingers, or turn on the starship's 1.4 petawatt engine without vaporizing it and the rest of the craft, then there is nothing humanity can individually or collectively do to hinder you in the slightest. Oh, but maybe the aliens have advanced beyond the need to use energy to move matter around. Maybe they've come up with means of physical instrumentality completely outside our scientific knowledge. Well, if you think about it, that makes resisting their supposed intentions even more impossible. Of all the things that could kill me without my being able to do anything about it—from a sudden heart attack to a random indiscriminate shooter on the street to an asteroid impact—hostile aliens are among the very least likely. In the end you are shilling feckless fear. Not just because it's unjustified by the evidence you offer, which it is, but because you cannot offer any plausible recourse or remedy. All you can suggest is "be afraid," and what's the point of that? |
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Well there's nine-and-a-half minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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There are people who look at the night sky every night; they're called astronomers. Around the planet there are multitudinous All-Sky Camera Networks. They record everything from horizon to horizon and from dawn to dusk. They regularly capture images of meteorites. They never capture images of UFOs, UAPs, of Flying Saucers.
Your link shows a, possibly out of focus, blob of light. Very convincing. |
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This is the second time this has been brought up to you and the second time you have misunderstood the point. YOU initially stated that the missing second was important because it was proof of abduction or something.
When it was later pointed out that it was simply a glitch that showed up in another one of your videos you agreed it was glitch and now try to downplay it. So the problem is either in your reading comprehension or you are purposely playing dumb to the point so you won't have to address it and admit you made a mistake(false assumption). |
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