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Old 20th January 2018, 11:24 AM   #41
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Heroes of Might and Magic II


Someone came out with an android version. Faithful to the original, although the inablity to right click to check the makeup of the enemy stock is annoying.
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Old 20th January 2018, 11:33 AM   #42
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Old 20th January 2018, 12:26 PM   #43
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I have a couple of DOS games on my desktop that are older (Age of Rifles and Action Stations) and a DOS emulator that will run them, but I haven't played either of them in at least a few years. But I still regularly play SMAX.
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Old 20th January 2018, 01:39 PM   #44
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Old 20th January 2018, 01:47 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by paulhutch View Post
It should be due to the large and growing number of security problems with this almost 17 year old and out of extended support for 4 years OS.



This was a major cause of the NHS's ransomware problems, XP machines.
https://www.wired.com/2017/05/still-...prepare-worst/

Usually when the users say there aren't any drivers it means they aren't willing to pay huge sums of money to get updated drivers written. Sometimes the driver re-writing fee can come close to, or exceed the cost of, replacing the whole system.
Dentist have to buy their own gear, it's not paid for by the NHS.
We did a lot of business over the last few years with practices that had no IT at all having to get Practice management systems installed to continue doing NHS work, they are all OK they have modern systems. Those practices that went 'electronic' a while ago are having to invest in new systems.
Just about every practice in the UK uses a system called 'Exact' by a company called Software of Excellence. Part of the Henry Schein group (they supply the vast majority of all dental equipment in Europe)
To run the Exact needs at least Windows 7 these days for the oldest version still certified as compliant)
Where the problem comes in is with Digital Xray sensors and Intra Oral camera systems. They cost a huge amount of money and some of the older systems haven't had software updates for many years.
A lot of smaller practices can't afford to scrap them and there isn't any need, the actual xray systems are still very good. They just have to keep using the XP workstations that came with them.
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Old 20th January 2018, 06:27 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Dentist have to buy their own gear, it's not paid for by the NHS.
We did a lot of business over the last few years with practices that had no IT at all having to get Practice management systems installed to continue doing NHS work, they are all OK they have modern systems. Those practices that went 'electronic' a while ago are having to invest in new systems.
Just about every practice in the UK uses a system called 'Exact' by a company called Software of Excellence. Part of the Henry Schein group (they supply the vast majority of all dental equipment in Europe)
To run the Exact needs at least Windows 7 these days for the oldest version still certified as compliant)
Where the problem comes in is with Digital Xray sensors and Intra Oral camera systems. They cost a huge amount of money and some of the older systems haven't had software updates for many years.
A lot of smaller practices can't afford to scrap them and there isn't any need, the actual xray systems are still very good. They just have to keep using the XP workstations that came with them.

Does the XP machine have to be connected to the internet to work with the x-ray system? Because if they don't then hacker security shouldn't be as much of a problem.
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Old 21st January 2018, 07:32 AM   #49
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Aye. About once a year I run through all the campaigns from the original, II and the expansions. I don't like III, though I have it.
I still play random skirmishes on that here and there. Despite its flaws I like it better than 2 or 3, which were too "busy" for me.
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Old 21st January 2018, 08:56 AM   #50
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Does the XP machine have to be connected to the internet to work with the x-ray system? Because if they don't then hacker security shouldn't be as much of a problem.
It depends, some places have the device as a stand alone but it's usual to transfer the xray image to the Exact Database where it is linked to the patient record. That way the Dentist can see any old Xrays as part of the patient record and any new Xrays appear straight away so he can work with them.

It's not such a big problem, there are third party security and anti virus packages and it's usual to only have one workstation able to browse the web or use email in the practice managers office.

It tends to be the big 'Panoramic' CT systems that aren't being replaced, they can cost,. they come in at around £20,000 for the lower end systems up to £30000 or more for a 3d system

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Old 21st January 2018, 10:45 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Dentist have to buy their own gear, it's not paid for by the NHS.
We did a lot of business over the last few years with practices that had no IT at all having to get Practice management systems installed to continue doing NHS work, they are all OK they have modern systems. Those practices that went 'electronic' a while ago are having to invest in new systems.
Just about every practice in the UK uses a system called 'Exact' by a company called Software of Excellence. Part of the Henry Schein group (they supply the vast majority of all dental equipment in Europe)
To run the Exact needs at least Windows 7 these days for the oldest version still certified as compliant)
Where the problem comes in is with Digital Xray sensors and Intra Oral camera systems. They cost a huge amount of money and some of the older systems haven't had software updates for many years.
A lot of smaller practices can't afford to scrap them and there isn't any need, the actual xray systems are still very good. They just have to keep using the XP workstations that came with them.

Thanks for confirming what I said, it's simply dentists choosing profits over patient data security.
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Old 21st January 2018, 11:43 AM   #52
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Power Tab Editor 1.7, which creates sheet music for guitar and bass. Version 2.0 was expected to be released in 2002. Still waiting.
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Power Tab Editor 1.7, which creates sheet music for guitar and bass. Version 2.0 was expected to be released in 2002. Still waiting.
It's an outrage!
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Old 21st January 2018, 12:24 PM   #54
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I have three computers. My latest one runs windows ten, but I still use my old computer that runs windows xp, and I use it to run stuff like lotus word processor. However I found I could not run some of my old software so I put together and old computer that runs windows 98. On that computer I have a screen saver called hop which is dos based so will not run on later versions of windows. I like watching hop as it has constantly changing fractal patterns. It would work even better if I had the code number to unlock it as it is shareware and special features only worked if you paid for a code. It is too late to get the code now as hop code is no longer supported. Does anyone have the code?
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I would love to have an old 386 or 486 with Win 3.1 and some old stuff just for nostalgia.
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Old 21st January 2018, 07:38 PM   #57
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Oldest system I own that still runs is a DEC PDP-11/35 running RSTS/E. Version 4, IIRC. Dates from the early 1970's. Haven't checked this unit in a while.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSTS/E

I do have access to a genuine IBM PC-XT which still runs DOS some-old-version. No idea what software is on it, bit will say EDIT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer_XT

Oldest I use semi-regularly is an old DEC AXP-150/300 running VMS. Dates from about 1993.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECpc_AXP_150
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Old 22nd January 2018, 11:54 AM   #58
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The DOS version of Hoyle Solitaire, which was originally on a single floppy disk. Best solitaire program. It played fine on Win XP, but not on later OS, so now we get it on the web archive through dosbox.

I also still use the Win3.0 database "Cardfile," which used also to run on XP and Vista, but now requires a third party program. Still the same files, though. I find it a handy repository for passwords and the like, and I figure I can hide the files and nobody will find or open "CRD" files buried in the OS.

I still have an XP laptop set aside for running things that newer systems can't, including a couple of scanners.
I use cardfile too, on win 7.
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Oldest system I own that still runs is a DEC PDP-11/35 running RSTS/E.
Wow. I used to use that quite a bit but I'm sure if someone asked me yesterday to name all the OSes I ever used I'd have completely forgotten that one.
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Originally Posted by Kilaak Kommander View Post
Power Tab Editor 1.7, which creates sheet music for guitar and bass. Version 2.0 was expected to be released in 2002. Still waiting.
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It's an outrage!
I hear it's coming out right after Half-Life 3.
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I have an xp laptop used daily for a cnc router, its still got all the AOE series on it (and I regularly still play them while using the cnc machine too lol), I still maintain a pair of 98se machines for a company, plus they have at least a dozen xp machines still

Originally Posted by paulhutch View Post
Thanks for confirming what I said, it's simply dentists choosing profits over patient data security.
Obviously you have never worked in any form in the IT industry- telling a customer (or worse your boss if employed inhouse) that- bah its too old- I know it still works perfectly fine, but you have to spend $$$(in my case, probably several MILLION dollars) on new machines, even tho the old ones work perfectly well- because why?- oh they dont run vista,win7,win8,win10 will rapidly see you in your exciting new career as burger flipper,windscreen washer,panhandler (delete as applicable)





eta- thats one of the 2 98se machines in all its glory lol
they are all networked (on an internal lan) with a single machine in the office acting as the gateway portal to the internet (as the designs are usually done offsite by the customer and emailed to the workshop), and despite 'some people' thinking that because they run older machines they 'obviously' dont care about security, any time this system goes down it can cost big $$$ so they are as well protected as is possible (mainly by isolating the internal lan from the interwebs and closing off as many as the huge holes left by microsoft as is possible (some of which are still open in win10- so much for running new o/s's mean you are safe lol)
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I meant like an application, not scripts etc. And "use" was kinda vague, I was thinking at least semi-regularly ish.

I loved Office 97. If I could find it I'd still use it. I guess mine is Ultraedit, about 15-20 yrs old now?
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Every few years I play the original civilization game again, written in 1991. I have to run it in dosbox but that works great.

I just dug up my old Tandy Chess computer for my oldest son, who got interested in playing chess. It's a physical board with magnetic contacts, using led lights around the board to indicate pieces to be moved. I had to screw it open to remove the burst batteries, last replaced probably 25 years ago, but after that it worked perfectly again. Still can't beat it... Apparently it was developed in 1987, but I bought it more around 1990.

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I hear it's coming out right after Half-Life 3.
I was using the catch phrase of the Commanders 'Mighty Boosh' character
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Every few years I play the original civilization game again, written in 1991. I have to run it in dosbox but that works great.

I just dug up my old Tandy Chess computer for my oldest son, who got interested in playing chess. It's a physical board with magnetic contacts, using led lights around the board to indicate pieces to be moved. I had to screw it open to remove the burst batteries, last replaced probably 25 years ago, but after that it worked perfectly again. Still can't beat it... Apparently it was developed in 1987, but I bought it more around 1990.

https://tluif.home.xs4all.nl/chescom/Tan1850.jpg
Right, Tandy Ches... again, does embedded software count? Because who can forget [Merlin]. Mine still works. Wonder if a 40 year old shitbox is even worth anything.
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I'd bet there's a collector out there that'd offer decent money for it. I've seen old computer systems (like Macintosh 128K computers) go for decent money.

I do see a Merlin for $288 on eBay.

That being said, there are also about 6 others for $18 to $70, so...
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I'd bet there's a collector out there that'd offer decent money for it. I've seen old computer systems (like Macintosh 128K computers) go for decent money.

I do see a Merlin for $288 on eBay.

That being said, there are also about 6 others for $18 to $70, so...
I've been pitched five figure offers for my SE, since it's in working condition and has Oregon Trail on it. I keep turning them down, but lately I've been thinking I should sell it before it completely dies. The OS is on a floppy, I can't predict when the media will finally corrupt.
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Over the years I've used Compaq DOS, DR-DOS with 4DOS shell and Windows 3.11, OS/2 with 4DOS shell, and finally Linux. I effectively retired all my DOS software when I moved to Linux, although with emulation I suppose I could resurrect a good chunk of it—I kept all the binaries.

Currently the oldest software in general use on my system is the picture viewer program xv. Its last official release was 3.10a in 1994, although various people have been maintaining it since to ensure it still runs on modern Linux systems. Getting the original 25 year old code to compile today can be a challenge.

I wrote a shell script in 2002 to maintain an encrypted password file and have used it ever since. I wrote it out of necessity because I couldn't find a program to do it for me. 2002 was the same year Password Safe was released, but it's a Windows only program. Today there's also KeePass (for Windows, first release n 2003) and KeePassX (for Linux, first release in 2012.)
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Hey, I still have the first two programs I wrote in FORTRAN and overpunched back in 1978. I run these on the powerful 256KB RAM IBM77 (I think it was 8MHz or so) at my school. Where can I run those again? A jacquard machine?
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Old 29th January 2018, 01:33 PM   #74
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Originally Posted by Blue Mountain View Post
I wrote a shell script in 2002 to maintain an encrypted password file and have used it ever since.
Good question... are shell scripts independent pieces of software.

I still have a script called "l" which I use to list directories. (it just runs "ls - alF")

That must date to maybe 1993 or so.
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Originally Posted by blutoski View Post
Good question... are shell scripts independent pieces of software.

I still have a script called "l" which I use to list directories. (it just runs "ls - alF")

That must date to maybe 1993 or so.
Well, that little script does only one thing and could easily be put into a bash alias. But I'll venture that even something as simple as two commands separated by a pipe and put into a script file would count as an independent piece of software. It's an extremely simple piece of software, and perhaps something a ten year old could write, but it still counts as software because it performs a task that prior to its writing the system was unable to do on its own.
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I still have a script called "l" which I use to list directories. (it just runs "ls - alF")
I've been wondering who stole that script from me.
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