Firearms subforum?

Emily's Cat · 19th July 2016, 01:55 PM

Just a suggestion... There are so many gun-related threads in the social issues & current events forum that you'd think that was the only issue out there. While I occasionally enjoy a good firearm-related throw-down (

), I often want to find something completely different. How would TPTB feel about spinning up a subforum just for all the pro/anti-gun folks to hurl effluvia at each other?

Greedo · 21st July 2016, 02:50 PM

There'd certainly be more threads than in Trials and Errors.

rjh01 · 21st July 2016, 04:28 PM

This has been discussed several times in FM. Examples
Proposal: sub-forum for gun issues
Firearm threads in SI&CE
Sub-forum for the gun debate?
Please Create a New Subforum

Each time it has had several people say "yes we want it" yet it has never happened.

Ranb · 21st July 2016, 05:22 PM

Is it too much to ask for a gun politics sub-forum and a gun hobbies sub-forum?

Ranb

Foolmewunz · 21st July 2016, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ranb

Is it too much to ask for a gun politics sub-forum and a gun hobbies sub-forum?

Ranb

Yes, to "guns 'n politics" with a caveat. I worry that it becomes a ghetto. There are many current events threads where the topic of guns, controlled or not, are very appropriate to the discussion. It's not difficult to imagine dozens of posts saying "Reported. Off-topic. Take it to the Guns/No-Guns sub-forum." And there are people on both sides of the debate who will use it to stifle legitimate discussion.

No, to Gun Hobbbyist. I'd be in favor of a "Hobbies" sub-forum, and gunzies could start threads in there, but a whole sub-forum to guns? Then the gardening crowd demands their sub-forum, and the knitting crowd and the modelers, etc...

Cleon · 22nd July 2016, 04:29 AM

I think it's a great idea, but I would request a feature where I could filter out threads that begin with "Responsible gun owner."

Dumb All Over · 22nd July 2016, 11:03 AM

Guns and firearms should be banned from the forums.

Emily's Cat · 22nd July 2016, 11:53 AM

It's private property. They'd be well within their rights to prohibit us from carrying firearms onto the board

BStrong · 22nd July 2016, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by Cleon

I think it's a great idea, but I would request a feature where I could filter out threads that begin with "Responsible gun owner."

You're no fun!

As one of the usual suspects in firearms related threads, I can see where a subforum might be useful, but for the most part the SICE is completely appropriate for the purpose.

Emily's Cat · 22nd July 2016, 12:07 PM

I agree that SICE is the approriate place for gun discussions. I even take part in them once in a while! My suggestion is only because there are soooooooo many of them. Sometimes I don't want to blather about firearms, but it can be hard to sift through them all to find anything else.

I liken it to the 2016 US Presidential Election subforum in USA Politics. It's not that it's not the right area, it's just that this one topic buries everything else

Joey McGee · 22nd July 2016, 03:07 PM

There is a 9/11 subforum for the same reason.

arthwollipot · 22nd July 2016, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

No, to Gun Hobbbyist. I'd be in favor of a "Hobbies" sub-forum, and gunzies could start threads in there, but a whole sub-forum to guns? Then the gardening crowd demands their sub-forum, and the knitting crowd and the modelers, etc...

I agree with this. I don't think we don't want to be creating subforums for specific interests. Otherwise, where would we stop? I can see us years down the track with a million special interest subforums, each of which have two regular posters.

Pope130 · 22nd July 2016, 05:08 PM

I think the creation of a new sub-forum should be based on an assessment of how much a single subject has taken over an existing forum. Good examples of this are the separation of the "USA Politics" and "Non-USA and General Politics" fora, and the creation of the "911" sub-forum in "Conspiracy Theories".

When a single topic takes up most of the first page for an extended period, consideration should be made to separating it. If a sub-forum becomes moribund it can be re-incorporated into it's parent forum.

fuelair · 22nd July 2016, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Cleon

I think it's a great idea, but I would request a feature where I could filter out threads that begin with "Responsible gun owner."

Would irresponsible gun owner be o.k.? (Enquirer minds you know!!!)

Cleon · 26th July 2016, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

I agree with this. I don't think we don't want to be creating subforums for specific interests. Otherwise, where would we stop? I can see us years down the track with a million special interest subforums, each of which have two regular posters.

I think if a subject generates substantial interest and multiple ongoing threads, a subforum is worth looking at. If activity slows and stops after a while, it can always be closed down and threads put back in SI&CE. Guns certainly qualify; they've generated substantial interest and multiple threads pretty much since the forum first opened.

Emily's Cat · 26th July 2016, 12:19 PM

I'm wondering if maybe this needs to be moved to a different location, maybe Forum Management Feedback? We don't seem to have received any attention from TPTB

Cleon · 26th July 2016, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Emily's Cat

I'm wondering if maybe this needs to be moved to a different location, maybe Forum Management Feedback? We don't seem to have received any attention from TPTB

The request has been made a number of times, it's always been denied. I doubt that's going to change.

arthwollipot · 26th July 2016, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Cleon

I think if a subject generates substantial interest and multiple ongoing threads, a subforum is worth looking at. If activity slows and stops after a while, it can always be closed down and threads put back in SI&CE. Guns certainly qualify; they've generated substantial interest and multiple threads pretty much since the forum first opened.

If, as someone said earlier, it starts overwhelming everything else in SI&CE, like 9/11 did for CT way back, then yes, I think that a subforum would be warranted. I don't look at individual subforums (only the User CP and New Posts screens) so I don't know if that is happening.

Cleon · 27th July 2016, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

If, as someone said earlier, it starts overwhelming everything else in SI&CE, like 9/11 did for CT way back, then yes, I think that a subforum would be warranted. I don't look at individual subforums (only the User CP and New Posts screens) so I don't know if that is happening.

Currently, there's only a couple, but there are times when there can be half a dozen or more* gun threads hovering near the top of the front page.

* I'm going from memory here, I have no way to substantiate AFAIK

eerok · 27th July 2016, 11:22 AM

I'm not in favor of such fine-grained splintering into sub-fora. The benefits aren't clear, and as Foolmewunz suggested above, it encourages gamesmanship.

I have good luck with the JKS strategy of thread content management. When I encounter posts that are irrelevant or annoying, I Just Keep Scrolling.

Jules Galen · 2nd October 2016, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ranb

Is it too much to ask for a gun politics sub-forum and a gun hobbies sub-forum?

Ranb

Yes...I think it is too much to ask.

#1. Gun Politics are Politics. They essentially are about the use of force to achieve ends and so are not that much different from any other type of politics,

#2 I would welcome a gun-hobbies Thread in the sports forum. There are a lot of cool things about guns and riflery and pistol craft, etc....that can be discussed. Oh...and I would love it. Please, someone do it! But it does not need a specific forum or sub-forum.

stanfr · 2nd October 2016, 08:53 PM

I want a swimming pool forum. Clothing optional...

Emily's Cat · 3rd October 2016, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Jules Galen

Yes...I think it is too much to ask.

Hmm. I wasn't really asking you, but your opinion is noted

Originally Posted by Jules Galen

#1. Gun Politics are Politics. They essentially are about the use of force to achieve ends and so are not that much different from any other type of politics,

Presidential elections are not really different from any other type of politics either... and yet there is a subforum for that.

I'm not suggesting an entirely new forum, just a subforum, to accommodate the high volume of threads on this topic that can make it a challenge to find discussions on other topics.

Foolmewunz · 3rd October 2016, 07:28 PM

As long as we're bumping a semi-moribund thread, why not look at the third post in this thread. This was written back in July and cross-references to discussions over the years.

I'd say the lack of attention by the PTB pretty well answers the OP.

Originally Posted by rjh01

This has been discussed several times in FM. Examples
Proposal: sub-forum for gun issues
Firearm threads in SI&CE
Sub-forum for the gun debate?
Please Create a New Subforum

Each time it has had several people say "yes we want it" yet it has never happened.

Jules Galen · 3rd October 2016, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Foolmewunz

As long as we're bumping a semi-moribund thread, why not look at the third post in this thread. This was written back in July and cross-references to discussions over the years.

I'd say the lack of attention by the PTB pretty well answers the OP.

Why not create a thread in the sports forum? Would that be bad?

Foolmewunz · 3rd October 2016, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jules Galen

Why not create a thread in the sports forum? Would that be bad?

For which sport? Accidentally killing your offspring or shooting your spouse in a fit of rage aren't actually sports in most places.

The actual shooting sports have a following of roughly zero. Hell, we can't even get a good NCAA Basketball permanent thread going. I sincerely doubt there are enough fans of competitive shooting, but anyone's free to start such a thread if they want.

As I said, there are recreational shooters and gun collectors who'd probably feel at home in a "hobbyist" sort of sub-forum, but there's really nothing preventing them from starting that in Forum Community. There have been threads there for other hobbies/interests. That's sort of what that sub-forum's for.

Noztradamus · 4th October 2016, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Emily's Cat

Hmm. I wasn't really asking you, but your opinion is noted

Presidential elections are not really different from any other type of politics either.

They are more like Reality TV than any other politics

Emily's Cat · 5th October 2016, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Noztradamus

They are more like Reality TV than any other politics

I agree that they're Reality TV most of the time. I'd argue that the current US presidential election is a little bit *more* Reality TV though. I don't think even the polarization around firearms can overshadow the Trump Show.

The Great Zaganza · 5th October 2016, 10:24 AM

I suggest you post first and ask questions later.

Emily's Cat · 5th October 2016, 02:41 PM

I don't understand your post. I've posted in plenty of the firearms threads. Not all of them (I run out of stamina), but several. I posted in many of them prior to suggesting a subforum. Maybe you mean something else?

19th July 2016, 01:55 PM	#1
Emily's Cat Rarely prone to hissy-fits Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: The Wettest Desert on Earth Posts: 18,001	Firearms subforum? Just a suggestion... There are so many gun-related threads in the social issues & current events forum that you'd think that was the only issue out there. While I occasionally enjoy a good firearm-related throw-down (), I often want to find something completely different. How would TPTB feel about spinning up a subforum just for all the pro/anti-gun folks to hurl effluvia at each other?
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21st July 2016, 04:28 PM	#3
rjh01 Gentleman of leisure Tagger Join Date: May 2005 Location: Flying around in the sky Posts: 27,328	This has been discussed several times in FM. Examples Proposal: sub-forum for gun issues Firearm threads in SI&CE Sub-forum for the gun debate? Please Create a New Subforum Each time it has had several people say "yes we want it" yet it has never happened.
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21st July 2016, 06:00 PM	#5
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 41,468	Originally Posted by Ranb Is it too much to ask for a gun politics sub-forum and a gun hobbies sub-forum? Ranb Yes, to "guns 'n politics" with a caveat. I worry that it becomes a ghetto. There are many current events threads where the topic of guns, controlled or not, are very appropriate to the discussion. It's not difficult to imagine dozens of posts saying "Reported. Off-topic. Take it to the Guns/No-Guns sub-forum." And there are people on both sides of the debate who will use it to stifle legitimate discussion. No, to Gun Hobbbyist. I'd be in favor of a "Hobbies" sub-forum, and gunzies could start threads in there, but a whole sub-forum to guns? Then the gardening crowd demands their sub-forum, and the knitting crowd and the modelers, etc...
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22nd July 2016, 04:29 AM	#6
Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 25,586	I think it's a great idea, but I would request a feature where I could filter out threads that begin with "Responsible gun owner."
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22nd July 2016, 11:03 AM	#7
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21st July 2016, 02:50 PM	#2
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21st July 2016, 05:22 PM	#4
Ranb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA USA Posts: 10,582	Is it too much to ask for a gun politics sub-forum and a gun hobbies sub-forum? Ranb

22nd July 2016, 11:53 AM	#8
Emily's Cat Rarely prone to hissy-fits Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: The Wettest Desert on Earth Posts: 18,001	It's private property. They'd be well within their rights to prohibit us from carrying firearms onto the board
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22nd July 2016, 11:58 AM	#9
BStrong Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 13,087	Originally Posted by Cleon I think it's a great idea, but I would request a feature where I could filter out threads that begin with "Responsible gun owner." You're no fun! As one of the usual suspects in firearms related threads, I can see where a subforum might be useful, but for the most part the SICE is completely appropriate for the purpose.
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22nd July 2016, 12:07 PM	#10
Emily's Cat Rarely prone to hissy-fits Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: The Wettest Desert on Earth Posts: 18,001	I agree that SICE is the approriate place for gun discussions. I even take part in them once in a while! My suggestion is only because there are soooooooo many of them. Sometimes I don't want to blather about firearms, but it can be hard to sift through them all to find anything else. I liken it to the 2016 US Presidential Election subforum in USA Politics. It's not that it's not the right area, it's just that this one topic buries everything else
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22nd July 2016, 03:07 PM	#11
Joey McGee Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 10,307	There is a 9/11 subforum for the same reason.
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22nd July 2016, 04:37 PM	#12
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22nd July 2016, 05:08 PM	#13
Pope130 Illuminator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,579	I think the creation of a new sub-forum should be based on an assessment of how much a single subject has taken over an existing forum. Good examples of this are the separation of the "USA Politics" and "Non-USA and General Politics" fora, and the creation of the "911" sub-forum in "Conspiracy Theories". When a single topic takes up most of the first page for an extended period, consideration should be made to separating it. If a sub-forum becomes moribund it can be re-incorporated into it's parent forum.

22nd July 2016, 10:29 PM	#14
fuelair Banned Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 58,581	Originally Posted by Cleon I think it's a great idea, but I would request a feature where I could filter out threads that begin with "Responsible gun owner." Would irresponsible gun owner be o.k.? (Enquirer minds you know!!!)
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26th July 2016, 05:33 AM	#15
Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 25,586	Originally Posted by arthwollipot I agree with this. I don't think we don't want to be creating subforums for specific interests. Otherwise, where would we stop? I can see us years down the track with a million special interest subforums, each of which have two regular posters. I think if a subject generates substantial interest and multiple ongoing threads, a subforum is worth looking at. If activity slows and stops after a while, it can always be closed down and threads put back in SI&CE. Guns certainly qualify; they've generated substantial interest and multiple threads pretty much since the forum first opened.
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26th July 2016, 12:19 PM	#16
Emily's Cat Rarely prone to hissy-fits Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: The Wettest Desert on Earth Posts: 18,001	I'm wondering if maybe this needs to be moved to a different location, maybe Forum Management Feedback? We don't seem to have received any attention from TPTB
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26th July 2016, 12:30 PM	#17
Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 25,586	Originally Posted by Emily's Cat I'm wondering if maybe this needs to be moved to a different location, maybe Forum Management Feedback? We don't seem to have received any attention from TPTB The request has been made a number of times, it's always been denied. I doubt that's going to change.
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26th July 2016, 04:53 PM	#18
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 76,840	Originally Posted by Cleon I think if a subject generates substantial interest and multiple ongoing threads, a subforum is worth looking at. If activity slows and stops after a while, it can always be closed down and threads put back in SI&CE. Guns certainly qualify; they've generated substantial interest and multiple threads pretty much since the forum first opened. If, as someone said earlier, it starts overwhelming everything else in SI&CE, like 9/11 did for CT way back, then yes, I think that a subforum would be warranted. I don't look at individual subforums (only the User CP and New Posts screens) so I don't know if that is happening.
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27th July 2016, 06:02 AM	#19
Cleon King of the Pod People Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 25,586	Originally Posted by arthwollipot If, as someone said earlier, it starts overwhelming everything else in SI&CE, like 9/11 did for CT way back, then yes, I think that a subforum would be warranted. I don't look at individual subforums (only the User CP and New Posts screens) so I don't know if that is happening. Currently, there's only a couple, but there are times when there can be half a dozen or more* gun threads hovering near the top of the front page. * I'm going from memory here, I have no way to substantiate AFAIK
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eerok Quixoticist Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: ON Canada Posts: 5,007	I'm not in favor of such fine-grained splintering into sub-fora. The benefits aren't clear, and as Foolmewunz suggested above, it encourages gamesmanship. I have good luck with the JKS strategy of thread content management. When I encounter posts that are irrelevant or annoying, I Just Keep Scrolling.
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2nd October 2016, 07:36 PM	#21
Jules Galen Banned Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 3,726	Originally Posted by Ranb Is it too much to ask for a gun politics sub-forum and a gun hobbies sub-forum? Ranb Yes...I think it is too much to ask. #1. Gun Politics are Politics. They essentially are about the use of force to achieve ends and so are not that much different from any other type of politics, #2 I would welcome a gun-hobbies Thread in the sports forum. There are a lot of cool things about guns and riflery and pistol craft, etc....that can be discussed. Oh...and I would love it. Please, someone do it! But it does not need a specific forum or sub-forum.
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2nd October 2016, 08:53 PM	#22
stanfr Graduate Poster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,996	I want a swimming pool forum. Clothing optional...
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3rd October 2016, 09:18 AM	#23
Emily's Cat Rarely prone to hissy-fits Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: The Wettest Desert on Earth Posts: 18,001	Originally Posted by Jules Galen Yes...I think it is too much to ask. Hmm. I wasn't really asking you, but your opinion is noted Originally Posted by Jules Galen #1. Gun Politics are Politics. They essentially are about the use of force to achieve ends and so are not that much different from any other type of politics, Presidential elections are not really different from any other type of politics either... and yet there is a subforum for that. I'm not suggesting an entirely new forum, just a subforum, to accommodate the high volume of threads on this topic that can make it a challenge to find discussions on other topics.
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3rd October 2016, 07:28 PM	#24
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 41,468	As long as we're bumping a semi-moribund thread, why not look at the third post in this thread. This was written back in July and cross-references to discussions over the years. I'd say the lack of attention by the PTB pretty well answers the OP. Originally Posted by rjh01 This has been discussed several times in FM. Examples Proposal: sub-forum for gun issues Firearm threads in SI&CE Sub-forum for the gun debate? Please Create a New Subforum Each time it has had several people say "yes we want it" yet it has never happened.
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3rd October 2016, 09:19 PM	#25
Jules Galen Banned Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 3,726	Originally Posted by Foolmewunz As long as we're bumping a semi-moribund thread, why not look at the third post in this thread. This was written back in July and cross-references to discussions over the years. I'd say the lack of attention by the PTB pretty well answers the OP. Why not create a thread in the sports forum? Would that be bad?
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3rd October 2016, 09:47 PM	#26
Foolmewunz Grammar Resistance Leader TLA Dictator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pattaya, Thailand Posts: 41,468	Originally Posted by Jules Galen Why not create a thread in the sports forum? Would that be bad? For which sport? Accidentally killing your offspring or shooting your spouse in a fit of rage aren't actually sports in most places. The actual shooting sports have a following of roughly zero. Hell, we can't even get a good NCAA Basketball permanent thread going. I sincerely doubt there are enough fans of competitive shooting, but anyone's free to start such a thread if they want. As I said, there are recreational shooters and gun collectors who'd probably feel at home in a "hobbyist" sort of sub-forum, but there's really nothing preventing them from starting that in Forum Community. There have been threads there for other hobbies/interests. That's sort of what that sub-forum's for.
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4th October 2016, 09:28 PM	#27
Noztradamus Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 4,680	Originally Posted by Emily's Cat Hmm. I wasn't really asking you, but your opinion is noted Presidential elections are not really different from any other type of politics either. They are more like Reality TV than any other politics
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5th October 2016, 09:54 AM	#28
Emily's Cat Rarely prone to hissy-fits Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: The Wettest Desert on Earth Posts: 18,001	Originally Posted by Noztradamus They are more like Reality TV than any other politics I agree that they're Reality TV most of the time. I'd argue that the current US presidential election is a little bit more Reality TV though. I don't think even the polarization around firearms can overshadow the Trump Show.
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5th October 2016, 10:24 AM	#29
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5th October 2016, 02:41 PM	#30
Emily's Cat Rarely prone to hissy-fits Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: The Wettest Desert on Earth Posts: 18,001	I don't understand your post. I've posted in plenty of the firearms threads. Not all of them (I run out of stamina), but several. I posted in many of them prior to suggesting a subforum. Maybe you mean something else?
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