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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:12 PM   #121
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Thanks Kelly, for getting us back on topic.

I've been trying to think of new ideas that might help, but haven't found anything yet. But I wont stop. I'll check out your site, and can at least make a modest contribution. (I am presently under funded myself.)

My heart goes out to you, your family, and to anyone else in similar circumstances.

Last summer I read a book dealing with missing children. I had to stop one third through, as I would become too emotional, even while reading fiction.

I hope that this thread has helped you, despite a few tangents that are almost inevitable in such a forum. There are good people here. People willing to actually help. Even if its only to have a place where you can explore your options, and spread awareness of the plight of others with missing relatives.

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Thank you, Kevin.

The thread is back on track and great things are happening.

People like me and others in my place get an infusion of hope when people like you and the JREF members are willing to do things that make a difference. Even what one might think as a little thing, such as hanging a poster, can make a dark day brighter.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:15 PM   #122
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Does anyone know if you can get an equal number of hits by having the name of the site, as opposed to the domain name, include "missing persons"?
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:18 PM   #123
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Wonderful!

I think the name will be very important. It should somehow have missing persons in it.

Let's brainstorm.
How about

Rational Resources for Missing Person Assistance
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:19 PM   #124
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Originally Posted by KellyJ View Post
Does anyone know if you can get an equal number of hits by having the name of the site, as opposed to the domain name, include "missing persons"?
I believe if you have keywords specified with the website you should get good hits from searches.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:20 PM   #125
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www.missingpersons.org is taken.

www.missingpersons.com and www.missingpersons.net are taken but don't look like they are being actively used.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:22 PM   #126
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Great. shoot me a PM when that's ready to go up. I'll work on the webspace and the dot com.
First comes the information architecture. That depends on the content. Then, the design is done.

No worries, I know what I'm doing.

We will brainstorm with Kelly, and we'll reach a consensus on what the site should contain.

Originally Posted by KellyJ View Post
Wonderful!

I think the name will be very important. It should somehow have missing persons in it.
Hmm....if you want it to be a single-missing-person site, sure. But if you want to reach a broader audience, it should be more general.

But definitely hard-hitting. Let's not mince words here.

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Does anyone know if you can get an equal number of hits by having the name of the site, as opposed to the domain name, include "missing persons"?
Don't worry about that. There are ways (ahemn) to ensure a high Goggle-hit.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:24 PM   #127
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Originally Posted by fowlsound View Post
Shall we have a forum on there for parents of missing kids?
This is good, too, however, I ask that we refer to the missing as "missing persons" rather than just missing children. There are literally a thousand resource sites for missing children, but few for the missing in general and/or missing adults. That leads to the desperation factor, as LE, media, and orgs provide less, and sometime no help at all.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:27 PM   #128
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Do you think this is too long? It does not appear to be taken.

www.psychicsandmissingpersons.com
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:29 PM   #129
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Do you think this is too long? It does not appear to be taken.

www.psychicsandmissingpersons.com


A little long, but easy to remember. You know, we could use the initials of the site's title. For example, for "Rational Response and Help for Families of Missing Persons" you could do RRHFMP.com or something like that.

just an idea.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:31 PM   #130
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Originally Posted by KellyJ View Post
Do you think this is too long? It does not appear to be taken.

www.psychicsandmissingpersons.com
That name will attract a lot of believers in psychics.

Imagine a hundred WanderinWTFs muddying the water...
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:31 PM   #131
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I also want to reiterate that aside from CFLarson's site we should definately have a forum on there where the families of missing persons can create a community base.

Also, if you loko through my stupidly high post count, I relish in beating down woo trolls.

Best of both worlds.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:32 PM   #132
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That will attract a lot of believers in psychics.

Imagine a hundred WanderinWTFs muddying the water...


I think no matter what the name, the intent of the site will do that anyway.

As for a hundred wanderingwtfs, bring it on.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:34 PM   #133
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How about something like...


PleaseComeHome.com / net / org


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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:34 PM   #134
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Originally Posted by KellyJ View Post
Do you think this is too long? It does not appear to be taken.

www.psychicsandmissingpersons.com
I would say that is spot on. Not too long.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:35 PM   #135
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I would say that is spot on. Not too long.


Shall I buy it then?
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:36 PM   #136
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I think no matter what the name, the intent of the site will do that anyway.

As for a hundred wanderingwtfs, bring it on.
Luke has a good point and is is something we should ponder. I do also agree that in the end, they'll come anyway, just as Wanderin came here.

There could be a separate place for them to post so they would not pollute the other threads/subforums.

The privacy of the families (if they were to post there) should be protected at all costs. I would not want them to be PMing family members, etc. That would be awful.

Let's think this through.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:37 PM   #137
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Luke has a good point and is is something we should ponder. I do also agree that in the end, they'll come anyway, just as Wanderin came here.

There could be a separate place for them to post so they would not pollute the other threads/subforums.

The privacy of the families (if they were to post there) should be protected at all costs. I would not want them to be PMing family members, etc. That would be awful.

Let's think this through.


It's all in the membership agreement we come up with. We can explicitly state that this is not a forum to offer services or prove psychic abilities. When that's violated, they're gone and the post buried.

ETA:

Except for something akin to a flame wars section where they can duke it out. A sort of subforum.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:39 PM   #138
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A little long, but easy to remember. You know, we could use the initials of the site's title. For example, for "Rational Response and Help for Families of Missing Persons" you could do RRHFMP.com or something like that.

just an idea.
If you want an acronym, it has to be catchy and pronounceable.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:40 PM   #139
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what about

www.twicevictims.org - referring to that quote posted about how these people are being victimized twice?
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The last thing the family of a missing person needs when they come to a website designed to help them avoid predators is to be pounced on by a pack of wolves like Wanderin.

The name should say it all. www.secondwavepredators.com, or .org.

And anyone who solicits should be immediately banned.
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what about

www.twicevictims.org - referring to that quote posted about how these people are being victimized twice?

Great minds think alike.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:41 PM   #142
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Originally Posted by fowlsound View Post
It's all in the membership agreement we come up with. We can explicitly state that this is not a forum to offer services or prove psychic abilities. When that's violated, they're gone and the post buried.

ETA:

Except for something akin to a flame wars section where they can duke it out. A sort of subforum.
Family members and believers in the general public can lurk and watch the action. Everyone will learn something, that is except for the diehard types.

I say buy the domain, but I'm not the queen diva here.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:41 PM   #143
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How about http://www.psychicscannotfindmissingpersons.com/
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:42 PM   #144
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Shall I buy it then?
Let's sleep on this. That's always a good idea.
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Old 23rd February 2006, 02:42 PM   #145
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The last two names presented by Luke and Meg are worthy.

I'm thinking.......

Edited to say I agree with Claus.

Editing to further state that perhaps it should be left clean, meaning that it's a place to present the info to the families, period. Psychics could be referred to this forum to do their sparring.That may be the best option. Family members who want to observe this here could as lurkers if they wish.
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Let's sleep on this. That's always a good idea.


What's this "sleep" you speak of?
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Family members and believers in the general public can lurk and watch the action. Everyone will learn something, that is except for the diehard types.

I say buy the domain, but I'm not the queen diva here.


Sure you are.

Chck your private message for my email and phone #. you Claus and I can talk more about this and work the whole thing out. I have no problem being a forum admin for this site and aggressively enforcing that we do not tolerate trolls like wandering. Plus, I've got the time and the motivation.
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Luke has a good point and is is something we should ponder. I do also agree that in the end, they'll come anyway, just as Wanderin came here.

There could be a separate place for them to post so they would not pollute the other threads/subforums.

The privacy of the families (if they were to post there) should be protected at all costs. I would not want them to be PMing family members, etc. That would be awful.

Let's think this through.
Having a set of at least 5 strict moderators will be required no matter what name you take.

Speaking of which, I volunteer for modding. It's about the only thing I can contribute with, and I have the spare time for it. Of course, don't bother thinking too much about that kind of detail yet, as it's still a bit far in the future.

Edited to clarify post.
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Is that taken?
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What's this "sleep" you speak of?
An imaginary concept, I know. But I have heard of people who actually do it.
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www.psychicfrauds.com

Is that taken?
You better have the evidence that is strong enough to hold up in court.
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You better have the evidence that is strong enough to hold up in court.


Good point, we don't want to get hit with libel lawsuits.
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www.psychicpredators.com ?

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Thanks Fire. When I set up the forum software, I may email you some questions.
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Let me guess: Its got to do with microblows and Asp?
No, no, it's a religious thing.

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Sure you are.

Chck your private message for my email and phone #. you Claus and I can talk more about this and work the whole thing out. I have no problem being a forum admin for this site and aggressively enforcing that we do not tolerate trolls like wandering. Plus, I've got the time and the motivation.
I'll try you again in a bit.

So many good ideas flowing here.

I'm still a bit torn between having a clean site and the forum since this one exists.

I believe that I have caught up on older posts with questions for me or other items I need to comment on. If I forgot one, remind me, and accept my apology.

I'm taking a break from the PC...been on it all day long. I'll be back later on.

This is what it's all about...working together for a common cause.

Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. (not literally, of course!)
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