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Old 2nd March 2019, 05:49 AM   #1
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Sexually abusing a child while Female

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A former American teacher allegedly had sex with her 13-year-old student while his friend watched.


Brittany Zamora, 28, and her teenage lover also fondled each other while other students, apparently unsuspecting, watched a video in class, reported the Arizona Tribune.


Zamora, who taught at the Las Brisas Academy Elementary School in Goodyear, Arizona, was arrested last year for having sex with the boy.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other...0Ml?li=AAgfYrC
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Previous similar threads have shown that this behaviour is condoned and even encouraged by many members.
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Lucky kid! She’s hot! I wish I had had her as a teacher when I was his age.
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I'm no psychologist, but I'd say that her behavior suggests she wanted to be caught. Messing around in class, with a witness, and texts, including photos? That's not someone who's trying to conceal an affair, that's someone who wants to get caught. It doesn't mean she's not a predator, or it wasn't criminal, of course. How do I know that last sentence will be ignored.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I'm no psychologist, but I'd say that her behavior suggests she wanted to be caught. Messing around in class, with a witness, and texts, including photos? That's not someone who's trying to conceal an affair, that's someone who wants to get caught. It doesn't mean she's not a predator, or it wasn't criminal, of course. How do I know that last sentence will be ignored.
So you're saying she's not a criminal predator, then.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I'm no psychologist, but I'd say that her behavior suggests she wanted to be caught. Messing around in class, with a witness, and texts, including photos? That's not someone who's trying to conceal an affair, that's someone who wants to get caught. It doesn't mean she's not a predator, or it wasn't criminal, of course. How do I know that last sentence will be ignored.

Some people enjoy the fear of getting caught. Maybe she enjoyed the fear of getting caught so much she wanted to amplify it to the fear of getting caught, sacked, prosecuted, imprisoned and ostracised?
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I'm no psychologist, but I'd say that her behavior suggests she wanted to be caught. Messing around in class, with a witness, and texts, including photos? That's not someone who's trying to conceal an affair, that's someone who wants to get caught. It doesn't mean she's not a predator, or it wasn't criminal, of course. How do I know that last sentence will be ignored.
It's not being caught doing something that you shouldn't that many people find thrilling and exciting, it's the risk of being caught. This doesn't apply to to exhibitionists who deliberately expose themselves.
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Originally Posted by Arcade22 View Post
It's not being caught doing something that you shouldn't that many people find thrilling and exciting, it's the risk of being caught. This doesn't apply to to exhibitionists who deliberately expose themselves.
I'm not suggesting she was getting thrills by being so careless, I'm suggesting she's mentally ill.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I'm not suggesting she was getting thrills by being so careless, I'm suggesting she's mentally ill.
If the genders were reversed, you would be recieving about 30 times the quantity and quality of negative feedback.
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Originally Posted by sadhatter View Post
If the genders were reversed, you would be recieving about 30 times the quantity and quality of negative feedback.
If the genders were reversed I'd still think the same thing. Anybody who's so bad at committing their evil acts wants, at some level, to be caught. Which strikes me as craziness. Or else just plain stupidity. Someone who was after the illicit sex but wasn't crazy would have done a much better job at concealing their crimes. Which I'd also say about any crimes, really, not just sex crimes.
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I'm not suggesting she was getting thrills by being so careless, I'm suggesting she's mentally ill.

If the boy isn't physically mature, then is she mentally ill by definition?
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Old 2nd March 2019, 08:53 AM   #12
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Why are they always hot though?

Seriously.
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Originally Posted by Pterodactyl View Post
Why are they always hot though?

Seriously.
It's hard not to notice. Like, noticeably hotter than average. That's gotta mean something.

Also, I'm curious what the boys look like. They of course can't be pictured, but is it fair to assume they must be unusually early bloomers, as in six footers with adult physiques or something? Or does this type tend to go for the little boy thing, or what?
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I think the fact that the responses from the victims differ along gender lines is a pretty good indicator that genders view sex, and sexual assault, differently so the idea that any post with a sentence that starts off with "If the genders were reversed . . . " makes any type of point is ludicrous.

Obviously as a society we need laws that are applied equally so sex assault laws should be the same across genders. Sentences are based on harm done though, so we should see a difference in those along gender lines.

Age of consent laws are arbitrary. When they were 14 in BC there was zero uproar when anyone had sex with someone 15, 16, or 17 years old. Now the law is 16 but there is still uproar when someone has sex with someone who is under 18 because of media coverage from the U.S. where the laws are 18. What changed? Nothing.

The whole "position of power" thing is also arbitrary. It relies on indicators of power that do not indicate actual power. I look at how many of the people in my generation had affairs with professors in college. Today that is always an abuse of power but many of those affairs turned into long term marriages, many with the former student being the driver behind the marriage/relationship. Many more of those affairs are looked back on with fondness. No harm, no foul.

These types of threads on the ISF do illustrate how black and white people like their world to be though. I prefer the many shade of grey, (50?) in my world.
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It's hard not to notice. Like, noticeably hotter than average. That's gotta mean something.

Also, I'm curious what the boys look like. They of course can't be pictured, but is it fair to assume they must be unusually early bloomers, as in six footers with adult physiques or something? Or does this type tend to go for the little boy thing, or what?
Yeah, that's the thing. I think it's got to be some kind of mental illness. A good-looking lady like that could pretty much go anywhere, Walmart, the local pub, church, doesn't matter, and tap any random dude she likes on the shoulder and say "let's get at it" and she's going to bat somewhere around 1.000.
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It's hard not to notice. Like, noticeably hotter than average. That's gotta mean something.
Schoolboys don't lust after unattractive teachers?
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Originally Posted by Pterodactyl View Post
Why are they always hot though?

Seriously.
Would a large hit man surprise you?

It's best to be good at what you do helps you get away with it.

If she was a 2/10 she would find a different way of doing what she wanted ( threats, opertunistic crimes, etc).
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I think the fact that the responses from the victims differ along gender lines is a pretty good indicator that genders view sex, and sexual assault, differently so the idea that any post with a sentence that starts off with "If the genders were reversed . . . " makes any type of point is ludicrous.

Obviously as a society we need laws that are applied equally so sex assault laws should be the same across genders. Sentences are based on harm done though, so we should see a difference in those along gender lines.

Age of consent laws are arbitrary. When they were 14 in BC there was zero uproar when anyone had sex with someone 15, 16, or 17 years old. Now the law is 16 but there is still uproar when someone has sex with someone who is under 18 because of media coverage from the U.S. where the laws are 18. What changed? Nothing.

The whole "position of power" thing is also arbitrary. It relies on indicators of power that do not indicate actual power. I look at how many of the people in my generation had affairs with professors in college. Today that is always an abuse of power but many of those affairs turned into long term marriages, many with the former student being the driver behind the marriage/relationship. Many more of those affairs are looked back on with fondness. No harm, no foul.

These types of threads on the ISF do illustrate how black and white people like their world to be though. I prefer the many shade of grey, (50?) in my world.
This whole post disgusts me, and in a fair world would get your hard drive searched.
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This whole post disgusts me, and in a fair world would get your hard drive searched.

Could you be specific as to why?
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Could you be specific as to why?
Core concept? And arguing for said core concept seldom being done by people who do not wish to engage in core concept.
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Core concept? And arguing for said core concept seldom being done by people who do not wish to engage in core concept.


I was hoping for something more specific, but thank you.
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Schoolboys don't lust after unattractive teachers?

They probably don't brag about it at much, but what's the point?
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Yeah, that's the thing. I think it's got to be some kind of mental illness. A good-looking lady like that could pretty much go anywhere, Walmart, the local pub, church, doesn't matter, and tap any random dude she likes on the shoulder and say "let's get at it" and she's going to bat somewhere around 1.000.
Agreed, unless they were full-on crazy, but you would think that would be detected pretty quick in an academic setting. I would hope that teachers would be oriented to helping children, but maybe this type is unusually immature, and actually sets up their career to be around boys? I can't figure it out. Article says she was married, too, so presumably she can handle a conventional adult relationship.
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Why are they always hot though?

Seriously.
I know right? I was about to ask the same thing. Jesus Christ.
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Schoolboys don't lust after unattractive teachers?
I mean from her viewpoint. What would be the attraction to a child? Physically, they would seem to (ahem) have the pick of the litter, but they go for a kid. Just baffling, in a way.
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They probably don't brag about it at much, but what's the point?
What's what point? I don't understand the question.
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I mean from her viewpoint. What would be the attraction to a child? Physically, they would seem to (ahem) have the pick of the litter, but they go for a kid. Just baffling, in a way.
God alone know. I was just addressing 'why are they always hot. My off the top of my head theory, phrased as a question because I'm just guessing was, "Schoolboys don't lust after unattractive teachers? "
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Lucky kid! She’s hot! I wish I had had her as a teacher when I was his age.
I was partial to dark haired English teachers myself.
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Where were these women when I was a kid in school? Aaah the fantasies.
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Where were these women when I was a kid in school? Aaah the fantasies.
Hahaha, that didn't take long.

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Where were these women when I was a kid in school? Aaah the fantasies.
I predicted this.
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God alone know. I was just addressing 'why are they always hot. My off the top of my head theory, phrased as a question because I'm just guessing was, "Schoolboys don't lust after unattractive teachers? "
It's funny, in the article it was the boy's friend that tipped off police, because he knew it was weird for a 28 yr old to be into a 13 yr old. That's some mature perspective for a young guy. Or mebbe 28 looks like the crypt keeper to them?
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What's what point? I don't understand the question.
Schoolboys get the final yay or nay vote?
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I was hoping for something more specific, but thank you.
Sorry but literally if I were to get specific

A) it would be a 7 page post. Every idea involved is repulsive to me, and I have heard it expressed better, by worse. Still didn't sway me.

B) I don't believe I could without really pushing the bounds of civility. I'm likely unintentionally stepping on the line already and honestly I'm not catching a yellow card or worse due to someone with those. .. proclivities of thought. (The poster, not you).
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It's funny, in the article it was the boy's friend that tipped off police, because he knew it was weird for a 28 yr old to be into a 13 yr old. That's some mature perspective for a young guy. Or mebbe 28 looks like the crypt keeper to them?
Envy..?
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I mean from her viewpoint. What would be the attraction to a child? Physically, they would seem to (ahem) have the pick of the litter, but they go for a kid. Just baffling, in a way.
You'd think she could find a young enough, yet still perfectly legal, young man any number of places outside of school.
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You'd think she could find a young enough, yet still perfectly legal, young man any number of places outside of school.
And you think a coke addict could just drink a bunch of coffee.

Some people just want the wrong thing.
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This whole post disgusts me, and in a fair world would get your hard drive searched.
You must be reading a different post from me.
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Old 2nd March 2019, 01:53 PM   #39
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Originally Posted by zooterkin View Post
You must be reading a different post from me.
Nope, just different opinions and life experiences.

Personally if I knew someone wrote that I wouldn't let them around any children I knew.
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Originally Posted by bluesjnr View Post
Previous similar threads have shown that this behaviour is condoned and even encouraged by many members.
You often see this comment on these threads, but I haven't actually seen it.

I have on other forums though
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