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Old 10th October 2019, 10:28 AM   #201
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Imma take off my shirt. As a shirt wearer, my existence shall be ended.

Eta: before anyone says it, yes that is the argument. Shifting the parameters from some conversionalists want to fundamentally change you, way over to an entire political party wants to end your existence.
I have never considered whether someone wears a shirt or not as a core identifying feature of ones existence. But I'm open to hearing that argument.

Would it have mattered if I had put it in terms of religion? Would that have helped? If one side is passing las to make it illegal for Catholics to practice their religion and punishes them and takes away rights if they choose to not forsake their religion, would that not be "one side wants to end my existence"?

But I didn't go that direction, so please, tell us all about how wearing a shirt is central part of who you are as a human being, while we fit you for a poncho, a real poncho, not a sears poncho or anything.
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Old 10th October 2019, 10:29 AM   #202
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Originally Posted by johnny karate View Post
I like how the guy who just compared wearing a shirt to sexual orientation thinks what someone else posted is too stupid to be taken seriously.
Exactly! See, I knew you'd get it!

Conflating a small group of conversion nuts wanting to change your orientation to the whole of Republicans wanting to end your existence is just as ridiculous. Why turn your otherwise valid point into a parody?
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Old 10th October 2019, 10:35 AM   #203
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
I have never considered whether someone wears a shirt or not as a core identifying feature of ones existence. But I'm open to hearing that argument.

Would it have mattered if I had put it in terms of religion? Would that have helped? If one side is passing las to make it illegal for Catholics to practice their religion and punishes them and takes away rights if they choose to not forsake their religion, would that not be "one side wants to end my existence"?

But I didn't go that direction, so please, tell us all about how wearing a shirt is central part of who you are as a human being, while we fit you for a poncho, a real poncho, not a sears poncho or anything.
Had their argument included an 'as a...' , I would agree with your take. But that position is frequently repeated (via body of work) as a literal reading. Similar to ' all conservatives are Nazi's.

My dispute is with the needless theatricality. Which was defended as hairsplitting, compared with actual murder.
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Old 10th October 2019, 10:51 AM   #204
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Had their argument included an 'as a...' , I would agree with your take. But that position is frequently repeated (via body of work) as a literal reading. Similar to ' all conservatives are Nazi's.

My dispute is with the needless theatricality. Which was defended as hairsplitting, compared with actual murder.
No, your dispute is with the phrasing of their position. See the first sentence of this post.

Oh, and kudos for calling the gays "theatrical". That will surely get under their skin.

Not your finest hour, but I'm sure you had a good point to make in there somewhere. So, totally worth it.
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Old 10th October 2019, 11:06 AM   #205
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
Oh, and kudos for calling the gays "theatrical". That will surely get under their skin.
But being gay is just like wearing a shirt, so I'm sure it's fine.
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Old 10th October 2019, 11:08 AM   #206
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
My dispute is with the needless theatricality. Which was defended as hairsplitting, compared with actual murder.
Your dispute is with the concept of comprehension.
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Old 10th October 2019, 11:27 AM   #207
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
Exactly! See, I knew you'd get it!

Conflating a small group of conversion nuts wanting to change your orientation to the whole of Republicans wanting to end your existence is just as ridiculous. Why turn your otherwise valid point into a parody?
Yea like those laws in Uganda that the christian right backed, or the Russian concentration camps for gays. All just hyperbole there too.

Here is another good article on tolerance and not letting a few nuts let you get carried away.

https://www.nytimes.com/1922/11/21/a...ited-with.html

I mean it is as crazy as those people who say Trump wants to put Hispanics in concentration camps.
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Old 10th October 2019, 11:33 AM   #208
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
No, your dispute is with the phrasing of their position. See the first sentence of this post.

Oh, and kudos for calling the gays "theatrical". That will surely get under their skin.

Not your finest hour, but I'm sure you had a good point to make in there somewhere. So, totally worth it.
That particular phrasing is a touch beyond simple word choice; it conjures an entirely different meaning.

And if using 'theatrically' in that context is seen as offensive, all is indeed lost.
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Old 10th October 2019, 12:03 PM   #209
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
That particular phrasing is a touch beyond simple word choice; it conjures an entirely different meaning.
Other people seem to understand the intended meaning just fine.

At some point, you need to consider that maybe the problem lies with you.
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Old 10th October 2019, 12:08 PM   #210
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Originally Posted by Thermal View Post
That particular phrasing is a touch beyond simple word choice; it conjures an entirely different meaning.

And if using 'theatrically' in that context is seen as offensive, all is indeed lost.
"Offensive" is such a snowflake of a word. I would have used lazy, tiresome, boorish, or hackneyed. Which is all just a way to say: disappointing, because I know you are better than that post reflects.
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Old 10th October 2019, 01:45 PM   #211
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I think Brainster is asking if luchog really believes that Republicans actually want to kill luchog, specifically or generally, not whether they are actually Republicans.
Or kill anybody, as far as that goes.
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Old 10th October 2019, 03:41 PM   #212
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
"Offensive" is such a snowflake of a word. I would have used lazy, tiresome, boorish, or hackneyed. Which is all just a way to say: disappointing, because I know you are better than that post reflects.
Many would disagree, but let me try:

Can I use disingenuous? No, sounds like dissing indigenous peoples.
Sophmoric? Slamming underclassmen.
Wait...is underclassmen offensive...er, I mean lazy? How about 'non-graduated-men? No, that's sexist...wait, sexist is offensive...er, tiresome to asexuals...

I give up...

Ah, ****, the French...
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Old 10th October 2019, 04:09 PM   #213
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Or kill anybody, as far as that goes.
Well, in fairness, we all have a short list, don't we?
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Well, in fairness, we all have a short list, don't we?
In fairness, I think both the Republicans and the Democrats have rather long lists, with a lot of overlap.
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In fairness, I think both the Republicans and the Democrats have rather long lists, with a lot of overlap.
Pretty sure 'overlap' is offensive to the...

No, I just can't.
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Pretty sure 'overlap' is offensive to the...

No, I just can't.
No, go on. Offensive to whom? Laplanders? Lap dancers? Beer-bellies or muffintops? I don't get it.
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Old 10th October 2019, 04:48 PM   #217
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No, go on. Offensive to whom? Laplanders? Lap dancers? Beer-bellies or muffintops? I don't get it.
Was going to run with cunnilingus enthusiasts, or svelte labia challenged, or...

This line of conversation is not helping my distinguished persona here at all.
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Was going to run with cunnilingus enthusiasts, or svelte labia challenged, or...

This line of conversation is not helping my distinguished persona here at all.

Eegads!
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