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Old 18th January 2016, 10:21 AM   #841
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^ Thanks, Shrike.

So all cougars found in Ontario would be P. c. couguar, unless escaped members of one of the five Latin American subspecies? Or possibly an escaped P. c. coryi if one were to have had one as a pet? Probably quite a stretch for the latter two examples.

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Old 18th January 2016, 12:24 PM   #842
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So all cougars found in Ontario would be P. c. couguar, unless escaped members of one of the five Latin American subspecies? Or possibly an escaped P. c. coryi if one were to have had one as a pet? Probably quite a stretch for the latter two examples.
Yes, although escapes/releases of the Latin American subspecies are well-documented.

The tricky part concerns how well the taxonomists have delineated subspecies in northern Canada. It's a bit more plausible for a few remnant eastern cats to have persisted in northern Ontario or Quebec than in Kentucky or Virginia. Thusfar, all confirmed North American cougars in eastern North America have been the western subspecies.
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Old 18th January 2016, 12:37 PM   #843
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The wilder parts of Ontario and maybe even Quebec and Labrador would be the only places I can imagine a remnant population of the Eastern subspecies could exist unobserved. Doesn't change the fact that the Eastern subspecies is extinct in the US, of course.
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Old 18th January 2016, 06:23 PM   #844
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The wilder parts of Ontario and maybe even Quebec and Labrador would be the only places I can imagine a remnant population of the Eastern subspecies could exist unobserved.
Agreed, but even way up there it's problematic to envision them going undetected amid fur trade pressure and even subsistence use by First Nations people. Then there's the fact that as you get too far north into the boreal conditions favor lynx moreso than pumas. In other words, pumas might never have been all that common in the boreal forest, at least east of the Rockies.
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Old 3rd February 2018, 08:05 AM   #846
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Not the Eastern Cougar, but I didn't know where else to put the story of a cougar knocking on your back door.

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Old 8th February 2018, 03:03 PM   #848
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We'll see if this new California photo gets used for an Eastern cougar hoax. It's been done many times before.
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