Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum - America's "Bigfoot Professor" - Page 8

WGBH · 17th June 2010, 11:12 AM

You suspect wrong. Stick to Hunting rocks...

Correa Neto · 19th June 2010, 01:22 PM

Of course. Hunting things which are not real would be utterly silly.

WGBH · 19th June 2010, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Correa Neto

Of course. Hunting things which are not real would be utterly silly.

Yes, hunting things that are not real would be silly.

LTC8K6 · 19th June 2010, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Correa Neto

Of course. Hunting things which are not real would be utterly silly.

What if you have a net gun?

DennyT · 20th June 2010, 05:24 PM

“The Sasquatch has chosen a path that’s more pristine and pure.”

— Jeffery Meldrum, [Oregon] Symposium participant

WGBH · 20th June 2010, 08:17 PM

...."and it walks that path with a mid-tarsal break". Want to buy one of my $50 genuine Bigfoot cast copies, that were cast by someone else and I am profiting from?

— Jeffery Meldrum, [Oregon] Symposium participant

DennyT · 10th July 2010, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Correa Neto

Given your claimed sighting, your avatar and what you wrote about Medrum and his ideas on bigfoot foot anatomy, I suspect you are waiting for a bigfoot specimen. Since footers have been waiting for "proof" for quite a while, its understandable that people will get bored and sleepy.

But do not despair! Some people have been waiting for Jesus to return for much longer!

Giants are mentioned in the Bible, you know.
Any mention of any large, wild, or hairy man in history is automatically bigfoot.
Therefore, Bigfoot is in the Bible
The Bible is infallible and literally true.
therefore Bigfoot exists.
QED

Volsquatch · 11th July 2010, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by WGBH

Yes, hunting things that are not real would be silly.

Wow, I'm proud of you, John.

WGBH · 12th July 2010, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by Volsquatch

Wow, I'm proud of you, John.

ew

Drewbot · 12th July 2010, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by WGBH

ew

He was only complimenting you on your straightforward comment.

Volsquatch · 13th July 2010, 06:29 AM

Drew is correct, John. I was merely commenting favorably upon the confidence you were showing with those straightforward comments.

I know it must seem odd to see a positive comment coming from me(given our past history on this forum), but I was being sincere. It seems that I'm not the only one who's noticed your gradual shift toward a much more objective and unbiased outlook.

Volsquatch · 16th July 2010, 09:47 AM

Scratch that last reply. Seems I was wrong.

WGBH · 16th July 2010, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by Volsquatch

Drew is correct, John. I was merely commenting favorably upon the confidence you were showing with those straightforward comments.

I know it must seem odd to see a positive comment coming from me(given our past history on this forum), but I was being sincere. It seems that I'm not the only one who's noticed your gradual shift toward a much more objective and unbiased outlook.

Shift? When have I ever endorsed any of this limp so called evidence in regards to Bigfoot? MTB theory,crap. Skookum cast, elk lay. Memorial day footage, guy playing paintball. Anything by Paul freeman, hoax. Autumn"s book, just another tale. Next?

He said Hunting things that are not real is silly. I know they are real, so what I do is not silly to me. I could care less what he thinks about how I spend my time.

LTC8K6 · 16th July 2010, 10:35 AM

Well, I don't think bigfoot exists, but I really have no problem with people looking for them or signs of them. I'd probably enjoy a bigfoot expedition as long as I didn't have to pay for the priviledge.

Looking for them and not finding them may be what makes up someone's mind.

I have no problem with the phrase "hunting for bigfoot". I'd go hunting for bigfoot with a believer. I don't think I'd call it silly.

Pointless maybe, but a pointless trek through some nice wilderness sounds like a great idea to me.

In fact, I'd love to come across a "bigfoot" track.

Now, as for someone like Meldrum professionally supporting bigfoot? I think that would indeed be silly and should call into question his professionalism.

HarryHenderson · 16th July 2010, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by WGBH

...I know they are real, so what I do is not silly to me...

Repeat after me JC, there is no Bigfoot. Then spit.

Originally Posted by LTC8K6

Well, I don't think bigfoot exists, but I really have no problem with people looking for them or signs of them. I'd probably enjoy a bigfoot expedition as long as I didn't have to pay for the priviledge.

Looking for them and not finding them may be what makes up someone's mind.

I have no problem with the phrase "hunting for bigfoot". I'd go hunting for bigfoot with a believer. I don't think I'd call it silly.

Pointless maybe, but a pointless trek through some nice wilderness sounds like a great idea to me.

In fact, I'd love to come across a "bigfoot" track.

Now, as for someone like Meldrum professionally supporting bigfoot? I think that would indeed be silly and should call into question his professionalism.

Two thumbs up! What a straight shooting righteous post LTC8K6. There's no inflammatory verbiage, even towards Meldrum, yet your true disbelief shines through. I can only ever hope to be able to post such unoffending and acceptable responses.

WGBH · 16th July 2010, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by HarryHenderson

Repeat after me JC, there is no Bigfoot. Then spit.

Drewbot · 19th July 2010, 07:10 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SClOrtpu3ao

3:17 Meldrum explains that the Memorial day Footage has a female sasquatch holding a baby on it's back...

GT/CS · 19th July 2010, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SClOrtpu3ao

3:17 Meldrum explains that the Memorial day Footage has a female sasquatch holding a baby on it's back...

How sad.

HarryHenderson · 19th July 2010, 09:00 PM

Maybe Meldrum actually is some operative from an über secret 'lizard people' organization whose mission is to try and discredit the entire nature of science so they can...steal all the argon and take over the world? Or does he just play one on TV?

WGBH · 20th July 2010, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by HarryHenderson

Maybe Meldrum actually is some operative from an über secret 'lizard people' organization whose mission is to try and discredit the entire nature of science so they can...steal all the argon and take over the world? Or does he just play one on TV?

Now that you mention it, I did see a few scales when he was speaking at the Ohio conference. I could have just been dreaming because his 2 hour talk about Chinese Monkey feet was a snooze. I think a few of the more senoir Bigfooters even went into "the light".

DennyT · 20th July 2010, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by HarryHenderson

Maybe Meldrum actually is some operative from an über secret 'lizard people' organization whose mission is to try and discredit the entire nature of science so they can...steal all the argon and take over the world? Or does he just play one on TV?

best post of the week. possibly of the month.

William Parcher · 6th October 2010, 05:51 PM

New article about Dr. Meldrum in his university's magazine, The Bengal. Unfortunately, they spell his first name incorrectly.

He's possibly been given over $100K in grants and donations to find and study Bigfoot. No results. Now he has left North America behind and is looking in China. Back here he will move on to using dogs to find Bigfoot. Apparently, using a large fleet of trail cameras has been fruitless.

In search of Bigfoot

Quote:

(Dr. Jeffrey) Meldrum said he started researching Sasquatch 14 years ago when he found a fresh footprint in southeastern Washington. "That was what set the hook as far as embarking on a more systematic and focused consideration of the question from a research perspective."

He said one of his more interesting travels was for a documentary for the History Channel to the Hubei province in China. He said China has legends of a creature called the Yerin, which translates into "wild man" and has a similar description to Sasquatch. He said they met with a park ranger who claimed to have seen a Yerin.

Meldrum said, "One of the objectives of the trip was to examine these (Chinese) casts." He said the ranger opened up a suitcase and unwrapped the casts. "I was stunned," Meldrum stated, "because these footprints were virtually identical to the examples I have here in my laboratory." Meldrum also said the park ranger had no frame of reference as to what these footprints would look like making a hoax unlikely.

Meldrum said he is submitting an abstract to the American Association of Physical Anthropology meeting in the Spring about the trip.

As far as research here in the U.S., Meldrum said they are working on training search and recovery dogs to track Sasquatch. He said one of the biggest criticisms of Sasquatch is there is no body, and the only way to get a body would be to track one down and kill it or for someone to stumble upon a body. "Given their intelligence, this is probably going to be a very unlikely scenario," Meldrum said.

He said they had one of these (tracking) dogs check what was suspected being Sasquatch feces, based on circumstantial evidence. Meldrum said, "They get wind of this feces which would either be from bear or Sasquatch, because it was filled with black ants, and the dogs had a fear response to it. "This is a very unusual response because those same dogs would walk by bear feces with no response." "This enthused one of the handlers, and she has agreed to train a dog to great ape hair and tissue with the presumption that Sasquatch falls close to the variation of gorillas, chimps and apes," Meldrum continued.

"Once we have a dog that is at hand, if fresh footprints are found within about 12 hours, we can take the dogs to the site and imprint them with the scent, presuming the tracks are authentic."

LTC8K6 · 6th October 2010, 06:22 PM

He's in very deep...

GT/CS · 6th October 2010, 07:32 PM

And he's going to soon be an embarrassment to his employer and to himself, if he isn't already.

RayG · 6th October 2010, 07:39 PM

Is that supposed to be a representation of Patty he's standing in front of? If so, how come she's so freaking tall?

RayG

DennyT · 6th October 2010, 08:10 PM

why do you say that, GT? I mean, this has gone on for a long time. Does he have a pathological foot fetish? ha ha.

DennyT · 6th October 2010, 08:15 PM

Quote:

"One of the objectives of the trip was to examine these (Chinese) casts." He said the ranger opened up a suitcase and unwrapped the casts. "I was stunned," Meldrum stated, "because these footprints were virtually identical to the examples I have here in my laboratory." Meldrum also said the park ranger had no frame of reference as to what these footprints would look like making a hoax unlikely.

We're lucky those Chinese don't have books, television or the internet, or they would easily be able to hoax bigfoot tracks. Mostly the Chinese just hang out doing karate, telling Marco Polo stories, and hitting big gongs.

DennyT · 6th October 2010, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by RayG

Is that supposed to be a representation of Patty he's standing in front of? If so, how come she's so freaking tall?

RayG

Meldrum is on his knees.

Drewbot · 7th October 2010, 05:09 AM

Of course Chinese Bigfoot prints look identical to North American Bigfoot tracks.

Those Shipton prints are too hard for a hoaxer to duplicate.

I'm sure the Chinese bigfoot footprint, looks as goofy and unnatural as the North American Bigfoot footprint.

The beauty of the free market, You crazy Americans have a BIGFOOT professor? WTF?

The Shrike · 7th October 2010, 06:47 AM

"Meldrum also said the park ranger had no frame of reference as to what these footprints would look like making a hoax unlikely."

The Chinese, having never seen a human foot, would have no idea what a big human foot would look like.

He really is out to lunch.

Vortigern99 · 7th October 2010, 08:04 AM

He appears to be easily stunned.

"I was stunned," Meldrum stated....

Skeptical Greg · 7th October 2010, 09:32 AM

Quote:

...the only way to get a body would be to track one down and kill it or for someone to stumble upon a body."Given their intelligence, this is probably going to be a very unlikely scenario,"

Right Jeff, hard to recover the body of a mythical beast ..

William Parcher · 7th October 2010, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Meldrum said his collection currently has over 200 footprint casts and they are working with the Idaho Virtualization Laboratory to create 3D models so other researchers will have access to them.

Two hundred casts is a lot of Bigfoot footprints. Dr. Meldrum, how many or what percentage of them would you say are fakes?

Drewbot · 7th October 2010, 03:29 PM

Meldrum has no desire to confront the poss. of hoaxing. He simply has to degrade the park ranger to solve that problem.

clayflingythingy · 7th October 2010, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Two hundred casts is a lot of Bigfoot footprints. Dr. Meldrum, how many or what percentage of them would you say are fakes?

IIRC, Saint Grover, in Big Footprints, stated he had a secret method, known only to him, to spot fake casts.

Perhaps he passed that knowledge on to Meldrum.

ForestNinja · 7th October 2010, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by William Parcher

Two hundred casts is a lot of Bigfoot footprints. Dr. Meldrum, how many or what percentage of them would you say are fakes?

Just the ones he sells.

Correa Neto · 8th October 2010, 03:56 AM

Originally Posted by http://www.isubengal.com/life/in-search-of-bigfoot-1.1667290

He said one of the biggest criticisms of Sasquatch is there is no body, and the only way to get a body would be to track one down and kill it or for someone to stumble upon a body. "Given their intelligence, this is probably going to be a very unlikely scenario," Meldrum said.

OK, that was as silly as many other bigfootery excuses.

If Meldrum's speculation is correct, then humans must be dumber than bigfoots, since neither finding human corpses and tracking and killing humans can actually be considered unusual events. Bigfoots must have been hiding their corpses and avoiding being killed by humans with 100% success rate for millenia. So, here we have a species of über-intelligent über-stealthy boss-of-the-woods. It's an RPG-type of concept; its not science.

The excuses for the absence of reliable evidence brings even the most "flesh-n'-bones" allegedly scientific-minded footers close to the "paranormal" or "extra-fringe" footers.

Originally Posted by http://www.isubengal.com/life/in-search-of-bigfoot-1.1667290

Meldrum said, "I'm not just about collecting footprints; we're also approaching this as a question of wildlife biology. What is this creature's role in the biological community?"

I think the carriage is ahead the the horses.

First, demonstrate it exists. Then figure out its ecologic niche.

Ever heard of Hall's corolary?
“Before we do research on something, we should make sure it exists"

ETA: Yes, I am not sure on how "dumbed down" for the general public are his statements, neither on how his original statements were edited. Given the source, however (university media) I would not expect this to be a big issue.

GT/CS · 8th October 2010, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Correa Neto

OK, that was as silly as many other bigfootery excuses.

If Meldrum's speculation is correct, then humans must be dumber than bigfoots, since neither finding human corpses and tracking and killing humans can actually be considered unusual events. Bigfoots must have been hiding their corpses and avoiding being killed by humans with 100% success rate for millenia. So, here we have a species of über-intelligent über-stealthy boss-of-the-woods.
<Snip>

And yet P&G filmed one taking an afternoon stroll next to a logging road.

Drewbot · 8th October 2010, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by GT/CS

And yet P&G filmed one taking an afternoon stroll next to a logging road.

Forget PGF. Most sightings are of Bigfoot peering in Trailer windows, invading picnic area at campgrounds, strolling across open mountain sides, crossing semi-rural driveways, or walking alongside someone hiking on a trail. It's not like you have to be 2.4 miles from a road to see a bigfoot. They are amongst us.

William Parcher · 8th October 2010, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by Correa Neto

ETA: Yes, I am not sure on how "dumbed down" for the general public are his statements, neither on how his original statements were edited. Given the source, however (university media) I would not expect this to be a big issue.

A big issue? LOL! The Bengal spelled his name wrong and it still hasn't been corrected after 2 days in print.

You've got Meldrum saying Bigfoots are out there and you've got a university magazine writer/editor who spells his first name "Jeffery". There must be something in the water at ISU.

17th June 2010, 11:12 AM	#281
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19th June 2010, 01:22 PM	#282
Correa Neto Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,578	Of course. Hunting things which are not real would be utterly silly.
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19th June 2010, 02:41 PM	#283
WGBH Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,141	Originally Posted by Correa Neto Of course. Hunting things which are not real would be utterly silly. Yes, hunting things that are not real would be silly.
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19th June 2010, 06:40 PM	#284
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 21,185	Originally Posted by Correa Neto Of course. Hunting things which are not real would be utterly silly. What if you have a net gun?
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20th June 2010, 05:24 PM	#285
DennyT Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,195	true believer speaks “The Sasquatch has chosen a path that’s more pristine and pure.” — Jeffery Meldrum, [Oregon] Symposium participant
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20th June 2010, 08:17 PM	#286
WGBH Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,141	...."and it walks that path with a mid-tarsal break". Want to buy one of my $50 genuine Bigfoot cast copies, that were cast by someone else and I am profiting from? — Jeffery Meldrum, [Oregon] Symposium participant
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10th July 2010, 09:14 PM	#287
DennyT Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,195	Originally Posted by Correa Neto Given your claimed sighting, your avatar and what you wrote about Medrum and his ideas on bigfoot foot anatomy, I suspect you are waiting for a bigfoot specimen. Since footers have been waiting for "proof" for quite a while, its understandable that people will get bored and sleepy. But do not despair! Some people have been waiting for Jesus to return for much longer! Giants are mentioned in the Bible, you know. Any mention of any large, wild, or hairy man in history is automatically bigfoot. Therefore, Bigfoot is in the Bible The Bible is infallible and literally true. therefore Bigfoot exists. QED
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11th July 2010, 08:52 PM	#288
Volsquatch Scholar Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 77	Originally Posted by WGBH Yes, hunting things that are not real would be silly. Wow, I'm proud of you, John.
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12th July 2010, 05:25 AM	#289
WGBH Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,141	Originally Posted by Volsquatch Wow, I'm proud of you, John. ew
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12th July 2010, 05:35 AM	#290
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,853	Originally Posted by WGBH ew He was only complimenting you on your straightforward comment.
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13th July 2010, 06:29 AM	#291
Volsquatch Scholar Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 77	Drew is correct, John. I was merely commenting favorably upon the confidence you were showing with those straightforward comments. I know it must seem odd to see a positive comment coming from me(given our past history on this forum), but I was being sincere. It seems that I'm not the only one who's noticed your gradual shift toward a much more objective and unbiased outlook.
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16th July 2010, 09:47 AM	#292
Volsquatch Scholar Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 77	Scratch that last reply. Seems I was wrong.
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16th July 2010, 10:21 AM	#293
WGBH Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,141	Originally Posted by Volsquatch Drew is correct, John. I was merely commenting favorably upon the confidence you were showing with those straightforward comments. I know it must seem odd to see a positive comment coming from me(given our past history on this forum), but I was being sincere. It seems that I'm not the only one who's noticed your gradual shift toward a much more objective and unbiased outlook. Shift? When have I ever endorsed any of this limp so called evidence in regards to Bigfoot? MTB theory,crap. Skookum cast, elk lay. Memorial day footage, guy playing paintball. Anything by Paul freeman, hoax. Autumn"s book, just another tale. Next? He said Hunting things that are not real is silly. I know they are real, so what I do is not silly to me. I could care less what he thinks about how I spend my time.
WGBH Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,141	__________________ "Get the proof, then deal with the protectionist angles later. 40 something years of beating the bush is enough. Put up or shut up."~Graz

16th July 2010, 10:35 AM	#294
LTC8K6 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Directly under a deadly chemtrail Posts: 21,185	Well, I don't think bigfoot exists, but I really have no problem with people looking for them or signs of them. I'd probably enjoy a bigfoot expedition as long as I didn't have to pay for the priviledge. Looking for them and not finding them may be what makes up someone's mind. I have no problem with the phrase "hunting for bigfoot". I'd go hunting for bigfoot with a believer. I don't think I'd call it silly. Pointless maybe, but a pointless trek through some nice wilderness sounds like a great idea to me. In fact, I'd love to come across a "bigfoot" track. Now, as for someone like Meldrum professionally supporting bigfoot? I think that would indeed be silly and should call into question his professionalism.
	__________________ What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break?

16th July 2010, 03:55 PM	#295
HarryHenderson Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: All up in your business! Posts: 1,849	Originally Posted by WGBH ...I know they are real, so what I do is not silly to me... Repeat after me JC, there is no Bigfoot. Then spit. Originally Posted by LTC8K6 Well, I don't think bigfoot exists, but I really have no problem with people looking for them or signs of them. I'd probably enjoy a bigfoot expedition as long as I didn't have to pay for the priviledge. Looking for them and not finding them may be what makes up someone's mind. I have no problem with the phrase "hunting for bigfoot". I'd go hunting for bigfoot with a believer. I don't think I'd call it silly. Pointless maybe, but a pointless trek through some nice wilderness sounds like a great idea to me. In fact, I'd love to come across a "bigfoot" track. Now, as for someone like Meldrum professionally supporting bigfoot? I think that would indeed be silly and should call into question his professionalism. Two thumbs up! What a straight shooting righteous post LTC8K6. There's no inflammatory verbiage, even towards Meldrum, yet your true disbelief shines through. I can only ever hope to be able to post such unoffending and acceptable responses.
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16th July 2010, 09:37 PM	#296
WGBH Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,141	Originally Posted by HarryHenderson Repeat after me JC, there is no Bigfoot. Then spit.
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19th July 2010, 07:10 AM	#297
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,853	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SClOrtpu3ao 3:17 Meldrum explains that the Memorial day Footage has a female sasquatch holding a baby on it's back...
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19th July 2010, 04:55 PM	#298
GT/CS Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Inland NW Posts: 4,906	Originally Posted by Drewbot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SClOrtpu3ao 3:17 Meldrum explains that the Memorial day Footage has a female sasquatch holding a baby on it's back... How sad.
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19th July 2010, 09:00 PM	#299
HarryHenderson Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: All up in your business! Posts: 1,849	Maybe Meldrum actually is some operative from an über secret 'lizard people' organization whose mission is to try and discredit the entire nature of science so they can...steal all the argon and take over the world? Or does he just play one on TV?
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20th July 2010, 04:38 AM	#300
WGBH Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,141	Originally Posted by HarryHenderson Maybe Meldrum actually is some operative from an über secret 'lizard people' organization whose mission is to try and discredit the entire nature of science so they can...steal all the argon and take over the world? Or does he just play one on TV? Now that you mention it, I did see a few scales when he was speaking at the Ohio conference. I could have just been dreaming because his 2 hour talk about Chinese Monkey feet was a snooze. I think a few of the more senoir Bigfooters even went into "the light".
WGBH Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,141	__________________ "Get the proof, then deal with the protectionist angles later. 40 something years of beating the bush is enough. Put up or shut up."~Graz

20th July 2010, 02:16 PM	#301
DennyT Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,195	Originally Posted by HarryHenderson Maybe Meldrum actually is some operative from an über secret 'lizard people' organization whose mission is to try and discredit the entire nature of science so they can...steal all the argon and take over the world? Or does he just play one on TV? best post of the week. possibly of the month.
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6th October 2010, 06:22 PM	#303
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6th October 2010, 07:32 PM	#304
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6th October 2010, 07:39 PM	#305
RayG Master Poster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Somewhere in Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,660	Is that supposed to be a representation of Patty he's standing in front of? If so, how come she's so freaking tall? RayG
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6th October 2010, 08:10 PM	#306
DennyT Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,195	why do you say that, GT? I mean, this has gone on for a long time. Does he have a pathological foot fetish? ha ha.

6th October 2010, 08:15 PM	#307
DennyT Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,195	Quote: "One of the objectives of the trip was to examine these (Chinese) casts." He said the ranger opened up a suitcase and unwrapped the casts. "I was stunned," Meldrum stated, "because these footprints were virtually identical to the examples I have here in my laboratory." Meldrum also said the park ranger had no frame of reference as to what these footprints would look like making a hoax unlikely. We're lucky those Chinese don't have books, television or the internet, or they would easily be able to hoax bigfoot tracks. Mostly the Chinese just hang out doing karate, telling Marco Polo stories, and hitting big gongs.
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6th October 2010, 08:20 PM	#308
DennyT Illuminator Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,195	Originally Posted by RayG Is that supposed to be a representation of Patty he's standing in front of? If so, how come she's so freaking tall? RayG Meldrum is on his knees.

7th October 2010, 05:09 AM	#309
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,853	Of course Chinese Bigfoot prints look identical to North American Bigfoot tracks. Those Shipton prints are too hard for a hoaxer to duplicate. I'm sure the Chinese bigfoot footprint, looks as goofy and unnatural as the North American Bigfoot footprint. The beauty of the free market, You crazy Americans have a BIGFOOT professor? WTF?
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,853	__________________ "I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic

7th October 2010, 06:47 AM	#310
The Shrike Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,800	"Meldrum also said the park ranger had no frame of reference as to what these footprints would look like making a hoax unlikely." The Chinese, having never seen a human foot, would have no idea what a big human foot would look like. He really is out to lunch.
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7th October 2010, 08:04 AM	#311
Vortigern99 Sorcerer Supreme Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 7,905	He appears to be easily stunned. "I was stunned," Meldrum stated....
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7th October 2010, 09:32 AM	#312
Skeptical Greg Agave Wine Connoisseur Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Just past ' Resume Speed ' . Posts: 15,323	Quote: ...the only way to get a body would be to track one down and kill it or for someone to stumble upon a body."Given their intelligence, this is probably going to be a very unlikely scenario," Right Jeff, hard to recover the body of a mythical beast ..
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7th October 2010, 03:14 PM	#313
William Parcher Show me the monkey! Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 21,593	Quote: Meldrum said his collection currently has over 200 footprint casts and they are working with the Idaho Virtualization Laboratory to create 3D models so other researchers will have access to them. Two hundred casts is a lot of Bigfoot footprints. Dr. Meldrum, how many or what percentage of them would you say are fakes?
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7th October 2010, 03:29 PM	#314
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,853	Meldrum has no desire to confront the poss. of hoaxing. He simply has to degrade the park ranger to solve that problem.
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6,853	__________________ "I dont call that evolution, I call that the survival of the fittest." - Bulletmaker "I thought skeptics would usually point towards a hoax rather than a group being duped." - makaya325 Kit is not a skeptic. He is a former Bigfoot believer that changed his position to that of non believer.- Crowlogic

7th October 2010, 03:40 PM	#315
clayflingythingy Critical Thinker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 433	Originally Posted by William Parcher Two hundred casts is a lot of Bigfoot footprints. Dr. Meldrum, how many or what percentage of them would you say are fakes? IIRC, Saint Grover, in Big Footprints, stated he had a secret method, known only to him, to spot fake casts. Perhaps he passed that knowledge on to Meldrum.

7th October 2010, 06:29 PM	#316
ForestNinja New Blood Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 13	Originally Posted by William Parcher Two hundred casts is a lot of Bigfoot footprints. Dr. Meldrum, how many or what percentage of them would you say are fakes? Just the ones he sells.
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