Liberty University bans College Democrats

drkitten · 22nd May 2009, 06:32 PM

Just in case you thought the Big Tent wasn't stiflingly narrow-minded enough:

Quote:

(CNN) – Liberty University, the evangelical school in Virginia founded by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, is drawing heat Friday for its decision to revoke recognition of the College Democrats' chapter on campus.

According to the Lynchburg News & Advance, the school decided a week ago the organization "stood against the moral principles" held by the school and therefore could no longer be sanctioned.

Thunder · 22nd May 2009, 06:37 PM

"moral principles"???

what..did they not want to lynch gays?

drkitten · 22nd May 2009, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by parky76

"moral principles"???

what..did they not want to lynch gays?

I think they wanted to allow children to be killed before they were born, and wanted to prevent children from being killed afterwards. Both of which are anathema to the Christian Right.

Thunder · 22nd May 2009, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by drkitten

I think they wanted to allow children to be killed before they were born, and wanted to prevent children from being killed afterwards. Both of which are anathema to the Christian Right.

Um, the Christian Right LOVED the Iraq War.

I have no problem with 3 day old organisms being killed.

Questioninggeller · 23rd May 2009, 07:09 PM

Also discussion at this thread.

Skeptic · 23rd May 2009, 10:46 PM

I hardly support this, but it is not any worse than banning the ROTC from campus, as so many "enlithened" and "progressive" universities do. "Tolerance" is, as we all know, a one-way street...

...anyway, to the point, it is obvious that the Democratic club IS in disagreement -- in its support of gay marriage and abortion, to name two issues -- with Liberty U.'s priniples. That this should not be a reason to ban them from campus, of course, is true, but a different issue.

Tin Foil Timothy · 23rd May 2009, 11:58 PM

Christianity is a vile cult. Thankfully most people who claim to be Christians are not true followers and cherry pick the dogma!!

Constantine has a lot to answer for!!!!

332nd · 24th May 2009, 12:11 AM

This is so funny because I spent several weekends at liberty in my undergrad (part I) days. The students weren't that religious then.

corplinx · 24th May 2009, 12:17 AM

They claim dinosaurs mingled with humans at Liberty U. It is basically a diploma mill but with a better budget than the tin shack ones. Is anyone surprised here?

drkitten · 24th May 2009, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic

I hardly support this, but it is not any worse than banning the ROTC from campus,

Actually, it is, in several ways.

First of all, ROTC requires university support -- buildings, faculty, courses, and such. It typically costs a university to offer a ROTC program in much the same way that it costs the university to run a classics program. A student club, by contrast, requires little if any support; faculty are not compensated for their time and sponsorship and the rooms are literally sitting empty. Some universities will make funding available to clubs, others will not (or will allow student government to use student-generated activities fees, which are not "university" funds), but even that's not universal.

So there's a big difference between "we choose not to spend our limited resources in support of this" and "we choose not to permit others to support this."

Secondly, banning ROTC programs doesn't violate federal law concerning nonprofit neutrality w.r.t. political parties and candidates. Banning both the Republican and Democratic clubs would also not violate that law. But banning the Democratic club but not the Republican one is a violation of federal law.

I just hope one of the students at Liberty is aware of this and decides to raise the issue.

Tin Foil Timothy · 24th May 2009, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by corplinx

They claim dinosaurs mingled with humans at Liberty U. It is basically a diploma mill but with a better budget than the tin shack ones. Is anyone surprised here?

What's laughable is that a prejudiced, bigoted religious cult starts a, cough, university and has the gall to call it 'Liberty'

22nd May 2009, 06:32 PM	#1
drkitten Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 21,629	Liberty University bans College Democrats Just in case you thought the Big Tent wasn't stiflingly narrow-minded enough: Quote: (CNN) – Liberty University, the evangelical school in Virginia founded by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, is drawing heat Friday for its decision to revoke recognition of the College Democrats' chapter on campus. According to the Lynchburg News & Advance, the school decided a week ago the organization "stood against the moral principles" held by the school and therefore could no longer be sanctioned.

22nd May 2009, 06:37 PM	#2
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	"moral principles"??? what..did they not want to lynch gays?
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918

22nd May 2009, 06:48 PM	#4
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Originally Posted by drkitten I think they wanted to allow children to be killed before they were born, and wanted to prevent children from being killed afterwards. Both of which are anathema to the Christian Right. Um, the Christian Right LOVED the Iraq War. I have no problem with 3 day old organisms being killed.
Thunder Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 34,918	Last edited by Thunder; 22nd May 2009 at 06:49 PM.

23rd May 2009, 10:46 PM	#6
Skeptic Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 18,312	I hardly support this, but it is not any worse than banning the ROTC from campus, as so many "enlithened" and "progressive" universities do. "Tolerance" is, as we all know, a one-way street... ...anyway, to the point, it is obvious that the Democratic club IS in disagreement -- in its support of gay marriage and abortion, to name two issues -- with Liberty U.'s priniples. That this should not be a reason to ban them from campus, of course, is true, but a different issue.
Skeptic Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 18,312

23rd May 2009, 11:58 PM	#7
Tin Foil Timothy Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,089	Christianity is a vile cult. Thankfully most people who claim to be Christians are not true followers and cherry pick the dogma!! Constantine has a lot to answer for!!!!
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22nd May 2009, 06:39 PM	#3
drkitten Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 21,629	Originally Posted by parky76 "moral principles"??? what..did they not want to lynch gays? I think they wanted to allow children to be killed before they were born, and wanted to prevent children from being killed afterwards. Both of which are anathema to the Christian Right.

23rd May 2009, 07:09 PM	#5
Questioninggeller Illuminator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,048	Also discussion at this thread.

24th May 2009, 12:11 AM	#8
332nd Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 11,278	This is so funny because I spent several weekends at liberty in my undergrad (part I) days. The students weren't that religious then.
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24th May 2009, 12:17 AM	#9
corplinx JREF Kid Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 8,952	They claim dinosaurs mingled with humans at Liberty U. It is basically a diploma mill but with a better budget than the tin shack ones. Is anyone surprised here?
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24th May 2009, 12:46 PM	#10
drkitten Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 21,629	Originally Posted by Skeptic I hardly support this, but it is not any worse than banning the ROTC from campus, Actually, it is, in several ways. First of all, ROTC requires university support -- buildings, faculty, courses, and such. It typically costs a university to offer a ROTC program in much the same way that it costs the university to run a classics program. A student club, by contrast, requires little if any support; faculty are not compensated for their time and sponsorship and the rooms are literally sitting empty. Some universities will make funding available to clubs, others will not (or will allow student government to use student-generated activities fees, which are not "university" funds), but even that's not universal. So there's a big difference between "we choose not to spend our limited resources in support of this" and "we choose not to permit others to support this." Secondly, banning ROTC programs doesn't violate federal law concerning nonprofit neutrality w.r.t. political parties and candidates. Banning both the Republican and Democratic clubs would also not violate that law. But banning the Democratic club but not the Republican one is a violation of federal law. I just hope one of the students at Liberty is aware of this and decides to raise the issue.

24th May 2009, 01:46 PM	#11
Tin Foil Timothy Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,089	Originally Posted by corplinx They claim dinosaurs mingled with humans at Liberty U. It is basically a diploma mill but with a better budget than the tin shack ones. Is anyone surprised here? What's laughable is that a prejudiced, bigoted religious cult starts a, cough, university and has the gall to call it 'Liberty'
Tin Foil Timothy Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,089