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Old 24th February 2020, 01:25 AM   #3041
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A BBC article from a few days ago which looks at what may be involved for UK drivers taking their cars to the EU.

During the transition period there is no change from the existing position, our UK licences are valid in Europe and no insurance green card is required. It's not clear what the situation will be after the end of the transition period but....

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What happens next will depend on negotiations on the future relationship between the UK and the EU.

There will be different arrangements in place for each country - specific advice for each country is available from the government.

Some countries will require drivers to have an International Driving Permit (IDP), especially for longer visits, which may be bought at Post Offices for £5.50. You may also need to carry your UK driving licence
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47459859

and as far as insurance goes.....

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Your UK insurance is still valid for visiting the EEA during the transition period.

It is possible that in 2021, after the transition period is due to end, you may be legally required to get a Green Card from your insurer to prove your car is covered if you are driving in Europe. This will depend on what is agreed in negotiations between the UK and the EU on the future relationship.

The Green Card is only proof of a minimum level of third-party cover - it will not necessarily match the level of cover that you pay for in the UK.
In this case, you'll have to buy additional insurance if you're taking your car abroad and want comprehensive cover.

Then there's the administrivia....

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The government recommends that you have a GB sticker on your car, even if you also have a GB symbol on your number plate.

You'll need to carry your V5C log book with you if you own the car. If it is a car you have hired or leased then you will need to get a VE103 form to show you have permission to take it out of the UK.
...and something I hadn't considered at all...

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Perhaps most inconveniently, if you are involved in a road traffic accident in an EEA country after the end of the transition period, then you may need to make a claim against the responsible driver or their insurer in the country where the accident happened.

And that could involve bringing the claim in the local language.
As Joni Mitchell said "you don't know what you've got til it's gone". None of these things are insurmountable and the costs of addressing them are likely modest but it's yet another case of people really not appreciating the benefits of EU membership.
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Old 24th February 2020, 03:38 AM   #3042
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Originally Posted by KDLarsen View Post
Even better, the passports will be produced in Poland. The previous red ones? Made by a British company (De La Rue) and produced in Britain, and as a result of the lost contract, they've put 200 jobs at risk
Yeah but De La Rue sounds foreign and poofy, if the Polish company will rename to "Dave Smith Printing" Boris' supporters will cheer it to the rafters.
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Old 24th February 2020, 03:39 AM   #3043
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Boris likes to be seen as Churchillian
Even the talking dog is demeaned by the comparison.
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Old 24th February 2020, 03:41 AM   #3044
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Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
I’ve heard that tight underwear reduces male fertility.
That horse has bolted an indeterminate, by court order, number of times.
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Old 24th February 2020, 03:45 AM   #3045
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Boris likes to be seen as Churchillian
...but most people see him as Bennyhillian
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Old 24th February 2020, 03:55 AM   #3046
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Originally Posted by Lothian View Post
...but most people see him as Bennyhillian
And yet here he is, our Prime Minister, with a thumping majority and a clear mandate to deliver Brexit in whatever way he Dominic Cummings sees fit.

It's interesting (and more than a little depressing) to see the extent to which Boris Johnson and his government is paralleling Donald Trump and his administration. Whether it's inventing new facts, denying the press access, appointing racists advisers or having the security services not trusting you and your cabinet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51609047
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Old 24th February 2020, 11:13 AM   #3047
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Originally Posted by Ulf Nereng View Post
He saw two signs, one saying "EU citizens go here" and another saying "Non-EU citizens this way". He chose according to his wits. (Much like he did in the referendum)
If he chose according to his wits, he’d have expected his own line half way in between the two (much like he did in the referendum).
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Old 24th February 2020, 11:34 AM   #3048
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
  • 27% are in education - so at best could do part-time work
Education is a bastion of liberalism. Close down the Universities and force them to get real jobs!
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  • 26% are unable to work due to sickness - almost all are long-term sick
Fakers scamming the system. Go to a US style healthcare and see how many of them get jobs then!
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  • 22% are carers - if you force them to work, you're creating demand elsewhere
Cut the NHS and the reason for them to be caregivers go away. It’s win-win.
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  • 13% are retired - good luck forcing them back into work
Nothing that canceling pensions wouldn’t solve.
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Old Yesterday, 12:21 AM   #3049
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UK Environment Secretary refuses to rule out chlorinated chicken and other reductions in food safety:

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The Environment Secretary has refused to rule out chlorinated chicken and hormone-treated beef being imported from the US in a post-Brexit trade deal......
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His predecessor before the recent reshuffle had insisted controversial food products from the States would not be imported amid animal welfare and environmental fears.

But Mr Eustice, while saying there are “no plans” to change the law, did not explicitly rule it out when pressed three times on the subject.
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-23/...chicken-in-uk/

My take-aways from this are:
  • All governments "lie" but this one is completely brazen about reversing important decisions
  • The UK will accept any terms from the US, no matter how disadvantageous in order to have a high profile trade deal "win"
  • The resulting changes will make it much more difficult to trade with our biggest partner, the EU, without onerous checks to ensure that exported food complies to EU regulations
  • The UK farmers will find it even more difficult to compete domestically or internationally so unless the Magic Money TreeTM supplies huge agricultural subsidies, those farmers will suffer financially
  • UK consumers will end up with less safe food and/or spending more (once subsidies are factored in)

More Brexit "wins"
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Ah yes, but you see, before you were forced to accept rules from 'unelected and undemocratic EU bureaucrats' whereas now you'll be happily accepting whatever will give the most profit to US corporations after they bribed the total democrat Dominic Cummings. So it's a total win.
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Times will be hard, as hard as they were during the two wars, but, by golly, it will be worth it.
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https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/payme...rt-for-farmers

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Defra confirms reductions in support for farmers

Basic Payments will be reduced by 5-25% next year for farmers in England, the government has confirmed.
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