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Old 6th September 2017, 08:25 AM   #1
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X-9 class solar flare!

Holy crap!
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MAJOR SOLAR FLARE: On Sept. 6th at 1202 UT, sunspot AR2673 unleashed a major X9-class solar flare. X-rays and UV radiation from the blast ionized the top of Earth's atmosphere, causing a strong shortwave radio blackout on the dayside ofour planet. The explosion also likely produced a CME, although we have not yet confirmed this possibility. Please stay tuned for updates about this event.
http://spaceweather.com/

We are already waiting for a class G-3 solar storm to hit. All this does is guarantee clouds here in the beautiful Finger Lakes region of NYS.
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Old 6th September 2017, 08:30 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Wolrab View Post
Holy crap!

http://spaceweather.com/

We are already waiting for a class G-3 solar storm to hit. All this does is guarantee clouds here in the beautiful Finger Lakes region of NYS.
CME?
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Originally Posted by Spindrift View Post
CME?
Coronal Mass Ejection

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection

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Old 6th September 2017, 08:44 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
Thank you
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Old 6th September 2017, 08:49 AM   #5
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Any chance this could trigger a Carrington Event? http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...event-science/
https://www.space.com/38057-sun-unle...lar-flare.html
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Old 6th September 2017, 09:07 AM   #6
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Hope so.
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Sounds like a Michael Bay movie.

X-9 Class Solar Flare!

With Coronal Mass Ejection!

Starring Carrington Event!
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Old 6th September 2017, 09:49 AM   #8
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'SPLOSIONS!!!!!
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Really puts things in perspective when those tiny sunspots turn out to be bigger than our planet.
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
Hope so.
Why? Are you planning on going back to the earth and living on a farm?



Ha! Time enough for the earth in the grave.
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Old 6th September 2017, 10:42 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Spindrift View Post
Starring Carrington Event!
The hottest action star since Max Power!
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
Why? Are you planning on going back to the earth and living on a farm?



Ha! Time enough for the earth in the grave.
It'd be better than this mess we're in now.
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Old 6th September 2017, 10:51 AM   #13
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I just read (on a survivalist site so....) that the Carrington Event
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The most powerful flare on record was in 2003, during the last solar maximum. It was so powerful that it overloaded the sensors measuring it. They cut-out at X17, and the flare was later estimated to be about X45
so hopefully millennials won't have a mass die-off from electronics withdrawal."
https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/10109
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First the sun was blotted out through a good bit of the USA, then Houston half destroyed by flood. Now we have forest-firestorms across the western USA, and Miami in the cross-hairs of a Category 5 Hurricane.

Then we hear about this.

God seems angry about something.
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Old 6th September 2017, 11:09 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
It'd be better than this mess we're in now.
What mess? Modern medecine, the internet and flying vehicles?

Not sure I follow you.
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Old 6th September 2017, 11:14 AM   #16
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No chance.

An earlier M5 flare sent a CME our way. It is due to arrive tonight. The X9 flare wasn't Earth directed but the prediction of if we'll get a glancing blow has not yet been made.

Play the LASCO C2 and C3 gif movies here. They show the M5 CME headed our way. As of 11am PST, a view of the X9 CME has not reached the camera.

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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
What mess? Modern medecine, the internet and flying vehicles?

Not sure I follow you.
I believe he's referring to the current occupant of that big Greek Revival mansion that's horrible.
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Flash Gordon will save us! He's a miracle!!!
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No chance.

An earlier M5 flare sent a CME our way. It is due to arrive tonight. The X9 flare wasn't Earth directed but the prediction of if we'll get a glancing blow has not yet been made.

Play the LASCO C2 and C3 gif movies here. They show the M5 CME headed our way. As of 11am PST, a view of the X9 CME has not reached the camera.
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The explosion also produced a CME. However, available coronagraph images are not yet sufficient to determine whether or not the CME is Earth-directed. Please stay tuned for updates about this event.
http://spaceweather.com/
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Coronagraph imagery from STEREO A shows just how eruptive the X9.33 solar flare was. From STEREO A's point of view we are looking at a far side halo coronal mass ejection. It looks truly massive and seems fast as well. We still have to wait for SOHO/LASCO coronagraph images for a more detailed analysis but the plasma cloud likely has an earth-directed component. The DSN will be in contact with SOHO again starting at 18:30 UTC so expect imagery to come in after this time. We will do our best to update with a detailed analysis later tonight when SOHO imagery becomes available. In the mean time enjoy this animation of the coronal mass ejection as seen by STEREO Ahead COR2:
https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/...33-solar-flare
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You know, I'm not into sun science, but I really think it's great that someone is and that they are detecting, watching and analyzing these events. SCIENCE!
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What mess? Modern medecine, the internet and flying vehicles?

Not sure I follow you.
The internet is a good source of the mess, yes.
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The internet is a good source of the mess, yes.
And you think going back to classical antiquity would be better?
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
And you think going back to classical antiquity would be better?
Looks like your the one dressed for it!
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It'd be better than this mess we're in now.
Have you ever seen the Australian documentary, The Road Warrior?
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Update:
http://spaceweather.com/
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Newly arriving images from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory confirm that the explosion also produced a coronal mass ejection (CME) with an Earth-directed component. Click to view a movie of the plasma cloud racing away from the sun:
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I think, you meant

Flash a-ah
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Flash a-ah
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Originally Posted by Spindrift View Post
Sounds like a Michael Bay movie.

X-9 Class Solar Flare!

With Coronal Mass Ejection!

Starring Carrington Event!
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'SPLOSIONS!!!!!
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First the sun was blotted out through a good bit of the USA, then Houston half destroyed by flood. Now we have forest-firestorms across the western USA, and Miami in the cross-hairs of a Category 5 Hurricane.

Then we hear about this.

God seems angry about something.

I'm getting semi-concerned wondering what might be on the best seller lists in a couple thousand years.

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Play the LASCO C2 and C3 gif movies here. They show the M5 CME headed our way. As of 11am PST, a view of the X9 CME has not reached the camera.
Looks like the Sun popped a pimple.
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Yes, the CME is on the gif movie now and it's very much Earth directed. Aurora activity from the M5 CME has arrived, and X flares are fast so it should overtake the current CME and there will be incredible aurora activity in the next 24 to 48 hours.

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/no...tions-timeline

Naturally there is a thick cloud of hazy smoke over here on the north-left-coast and any possibility of seeing said aurora is about zero probability unless we have some miraculous shift in the winds. Of course if that happens it will probably mean clouds blowing in from a disturbance over the ocean. lose-lose
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I believe he's referring to the current occupant of that big Greek Revival mansion that's horrible.
Trump's president: better destroy civilization.

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No doubt this was caused by HAARP.
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I think, you meant

Flash a-ah
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Flash a-ah
He'll save every one of us!
I think you'll find GlennB knows the song better than yourself.

Flash a-ah
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I think you'll find GlennB knows the song better than yourself.

Flash a-ah
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(This morning's unprecedented solar eclipse is no cause for alarm)
My only issue was the missing "a-ah"!
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And you think going back to classical antiquity would be better?
Oh absolutely. A massive solar flare will not reverse our knowledge, just our power to screw up the planet.
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Oh absolutely. A massive solar flare will not reverse our knowledge, just our power to screw up the planet.
Oh, I think you'll find the complete loss of our ability to keep that knowledge in digital form will reverse quite a bit of it, especially given the massive drop in population and wars that would follow. You'd see a dark age worse than any other before, a pretty steep reduction in life expectancy and quality of life, an increase in child mortality rates, etc.

I'd rather not, thanks.
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Trump's president: better destroy civilization.

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If you say so.
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Coronal Mass Ejection
It's like a sunny money-shot.
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No doubt this was caused by HAARP.
Or Obama.
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Old 7th September 2017, 08:56 AM   #40
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That sunspot is simply crackling. Six more M flares including an M7, and another X1. Some of those CMEs will likely hit Earth at least with a glancing blow.

Sigh, if there was even a place to drive to tonight with clear skies it would be worth a try. But alas, smoke is on the air. I even have ash on my car.
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