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Old 12th September 2021, 11:56 AM   #1
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Newsmax fooled by a fake Paul Wolfowitz. Twice. Live on air

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Newsmax fooled by a fake Paul Wolfowitz. Twice. Live on air

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It’s embarrassing for a news channel to get tricked by pranksters. It’s really embarrassing when the pranksters run pretty much the exact same prank and the news channel falls for it all over again.

That’s exactly what happened to Newsmax, when they told their viewers they were interviewing Paul Wolfowitz, who served as Deputy Secretary of Defense for George W. Bush, being a part of the former president’s Cabinet on September 11, 2001.
You have to read it to believe it. Newsmax was fooled twice by a man pretending to be Wolfowitz. They interviewed "Wolfowitz" on August 21, then, not realizing they'd been fooled, called him back for another interview for September 11. The second time, he decided to launch into Newsmax, and this is what happened:

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Bichlbaum wasted little time once he was live on air, launching into a rant about how “new master terrorists” had arisen that made the 9/1 (sic) hijackers look like “rank amateurs.”

“I’ve got to tell you, Newsmax is a much bigger threat to America than the hijackers of 9/11,” said Bichlbaum right before they cut him off.
You'd think they'd by now realize they'd been had. NO, THEY DIDN'T:

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The Newsmax panel were all shocked by Bichlbaum’s remarks but, somehow, incredibly, still seemed to have not one darn clue that this was not actually Wolfowitz who was making these stunning comments.

Watch the clip above starting around the 1:25 mark when they drop his call; they cut him off with “thank you for your service!” and then there are multiple comments about how this was “embarrassing” and “unfortunate” from a former Deputy Secretary of Defense, on a day that was supposed to be about “unity and bringing people together.”

“He was at the Pentagon that day and you would think that he wouldn’t chose this moment to be, frankly, hateful and intolerant,” said Basile — who, again, does actually know the real Wolfowitz in real life.
What a bunch of morons!



The clips of both interviews are embedded in the link above.
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Old 12th September 2021, 12:03 PM   #2
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I'm not fond of spoofing news organizations, as biased as they may be. I'd think there'd be some legal repercussions here, like fraud or something.
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Old 12th September 2021, 12:06 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
I'm not fond of spoofing news organizations, as biased as they may be. I'd think there'd be some legal repercussions here, like fraud or something.
Fraud? If Newsmax was paying for access that would be even more embarrassing.
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Old 12th September 2021, 12:12 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
I'm not fond of spoofing news organizations, as biased as they may be. I'd think there'd be some legal repercussions here, like fraud or something.
Doesn't fraud in the USA require the alleged victim to establish injury or material loss?
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"That's all milk under the table"

WTAF?
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Old 12th September 2021, 12:23 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by catsmate View Post
Doesn't fraud in the USA require the alleged victim to establish injury or material loss?
If this is rhetorical, please just save us all some time and get on with your rhetoric. If this is honest ignorance, Google is your friend where I am not.
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Originally Posted by abaddon View Post
"That's all milk under the table"

WTAF?
Who's crying now.
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Deserves four laughing dogs this one.



Freaking hilarious!!
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Old 12th September 2021, 12:54 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by catsmate View Post
Doesn't fraud in the USA require the alleged victim to establish injury or material loss?
Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
If this is rhetorical, please just save us all some time and get on with your rhetoric. If this is honest ignorance, Google is your friend where I am not.
Google is my friend, and apparently it is also catsmate's friend!

https://www.mitchell-attorneys.com/common-law-fraud

In the United States, common law generally identifies nine elements needed to establish fraud:

(1) a representation of fact;
(2) its falsity;
(3) its materiality;
(4) the representer’s knowledge of its falsity or ignorance of its truth;
(5) the representer’s intent that it should be acted upon by the person in the manner reasonably contemplated;
(6) the injured party’s ignorance of its falsity;
(7) the injured party’s reliance on its truth;
(8) the injured party’s right to rely thereon;
(9) the injured party’s consequent and proximate injury
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Didn't the Yes Men do something similar on BBC? With one of them posing as a representative of Dow Chemicals, Jude Finestarra, and expressing how sorry they were and accepting responsibility for the Bhopa gas leak? Dow Chemicals literally had to mobilize their entire PR team to counter that without being seen as callous capitalists seeking profits at any cost.
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In any organization where it is less important to be competent than it is to be ideologically "sound* this kind of ****** will happen.
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
Google is my friend, and apparently it is also catsmate's friend!

https://www.mitchell-attorneys.com/common-law-fraud

In the United States, common law generally identifies nine elements needed to establish fraud:

(1) a representation of fact;
(2) its falsity;
(3) its materiality;
(4) the representer’s knowledge of its falsity or ignorance of its truth;
(5) the representer’s intent that it should be acted upon by the person in the manner reasonably contemplated;
(6) the injured party’s ignorance of its falsity;
(7) the injured party’s reliance on its truth;
(8) the injured party’s right to rely thereon;
(9) the injured party’s consequent and proximate injury
So basically no chance of successful civil or criminal action. I can't see those idiots demonstrating injury from this.
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So basically no chance of successful civil or criminal action. I can't see those idiots demonstrating injury from this.
The proverbial ice-cube's chance of remaining unmelted in hell I would think.

They have been well and truly punked... twice, by the same guy. Stupid is as stupid does!
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