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8th January 2021, 02:27 PM | #441 |
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I see some of the protestors have been arrested,namely guy who sat in Pelosi's chair as one. Just wondering,considering security and police stood back and let them enter what can they be charged with?
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8th January 2021, 02:30 PM | #445 |
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No, and that wasn't necessary. A person breaks into my house, and I feel that my life is threatened, I can use deadly force. Multiply that by hundreds in an angry mob. Did you watch those spittle-flecked morons trying smash their way into the chamber? Did you listen to their words? Sorry, your attempt to paint this as a rambunctious lark is a fail.
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8th January 2021, 02:31 PM | #446 |
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Again in gun-shy UK all our buildings that house the legislative branches of our governments have armed police. It would be very strange to have your police armed if there weren’t circumstances in which they are meant to use those firearms.
Here is a recentish example in the UK: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...f%20Parliament. “.... The knifeman then stabbed a policeman before being shot dead by armed officers near the Houses of Parliament....” |
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8th January 2021, 02:31 PM | #448 |
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calling it an execution is comically dishonest
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8th January 2021, 02:32 PM | #451 |
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Are you kidding?!
That police officer was going to risk everything on some estimating of the size of the hole? What guaranteed that the hole would remain the same size? Or that pepper spray and tasering would be *so* likely to wedge her into the hole? What color is the sky on your planet? I am happy to stand corrected on this, but I can not imagine how. Please educate me. |
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Seditious conspiracy
"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both." 18 US code 2384 |
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Well first of all the officer should have asked them all to wear face masks and maintain social distancing, then the police officer could have asked her what was the reason for her being in the building, once she’d established it was to prevent the election of a new president they could have directed her to the correct chamber.
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Why is that relevant? Do you honestly think that the only risk to the congress-critters, policemen or staff was from gunfire?
The policeman that was killed was supposedly hit by a fire extinguisher. He was bludgeoned to death. The fact that he wasn't shot instead does not make him any less dead. (Not to mention the individual pictured carrying the type of zip-ties useful in handcuffing people. And the fact that just a day or 2 earlier, authorities had arrested at least one person who was planning on bringing weapons to the riot.) |
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I'm wondering what the difference between this group of "Patriots" storming the Capitol, and the Libyan group of terrorists who stormed our embassy in Benghazi?
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As noted in another thread in order to protect the statues or racist traitors Trump signed an Executive Order mandating a 10 year sentence for anyone who, I'm quoting Trump's actual Executive Order here: "It is the policy of the United States to prosecute to the fullest extent permitted under Federal law, and as appropriate, any person or any entity that destroys, damages, vandalizes, or desecrates a monument, memorial, or statue within the United States or otherwise vandalizes government property."
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tasing her and using her limp body to plug up the hole in the window is up there with trump brainstorming on how to inject bleach to cure covid
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Executions are controlled killings. To execute, you have to have physical control of your target and surroundings. Someone bashing their way into a window? What kind of mental gyrations do you have to go through, to decide someone forcing their way into a space is under the control of someone inside that space with charges to protect?
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Lost 430 doesn't answer that at all
Here is a long video that includes the incident. Not easy viewing.
But look at them trying to smash their way into a barricade It was self defense. There were lots of them They had warning The gunshot stopped them. They suddenly sobered up. |
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That was my reading. Of course, you would have the wicks available and the zippo, because you can't count on the government to supply decent wicking material and that electric lighter you got in your stocking is convenient and all with the usb charging, but if there is a photo of the revolution you want to be seen with a zippo. That's just much cooler.
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