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21st July 2021, 10:24 AM | #2121 |
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I love how if... last summer I had suggested the possibility that pro-Trump rioters were going to storm the Capital, lead to the deaths of 4 people, openly calling for the executions of Pelosi and Pence, be photographed stealing podiums and putting their feet on desks that the exact same people downplaying it now would have been screeching about what a "hyperbolic strawman" the mere suggestion was.
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21st July 2021, 10:48 AM | #2122 |
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Look, they only took the time to plan and build a gallows, plant weapon caches in multiple places, and bring a large number of restraining devices, but it's not like this was some planned out attack. It was just, like ..a dog licking his balls and you accurately describing is it the worst kind of crime: dramatic hyperbole!
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21st July 2021, 10:53 AM | #2123 |
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21st July 2021, 11:11 AM | #2125 |
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21st July 2021, 11:49 AM | #2127 |
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21st July 2021, 12:26 PM | #2128 |
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As predicted, Pelosi rejected Meadows appointment to the 1/6 commission and also Bank's appointment. Now McCarthy is withdrawing all his appointments and self-righteously screaming about how "partisan" Pelosi is being. Does anyone else think that was McCarthy's plan all along? He had to have known she's reject Meadows and likely Banks. I also think the pair's stupid comments in the last 24 hours were deliberately made with the aim of insuring Pelosi's rejection.
I loved Cheney's comments regarding the aim of the commission and McCarthy's lack of dedication to supporting the Constitution over party. |
21st July 2021, 12:28 PM | #2129 |
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Bull ****. I've said that the president should be charged with inciting imminent lawless action from word go.
My objection is that the swooners are using the wrong terms, that's all. If a woman is raped, don't swoon about how her soul was murdered. Call it what it ******* is, without the adolescent drama. Also: you asked me what I thought. I said so. So what's with the "anonymous poster" dismissal? Did you expect me to reveal my secret identity as outranking the Joint Cheif Chairman? You're better than that, man. |
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21st July 2021, 01:03 PM | #2130 |
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OECD healthcare spending Public/Compulsory Expenditure on healthcare https://data.oecd.org/chart/60Tt Every year since 1990 the US Public healthcare spending has been greater than the UK as a proportion of GDP. More US Tax goes to healthcare than the UK |
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OECD healthcare spending Public/Compulsory Expenditure on healthcare https://data.oecd.org/chart/60Tt Every year since 1990 the US Public healthcare spending has been greater than the UK as a proportion of GDP. More US Tax goes to healthcare than the UK |
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21st July 2021, 01:14 PM | #2132 |
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This is important. The attack on the Capitol is part of the coup, it can't be pulled out and examined in isolation and determined not to be a coup because it doesn't meet all the criteria. It's a very dramatic and public and noticeable part---*of* the coup.
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21st July 2021, 01:24 PM | #2134 |
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I think Pelosi should go on with the hearings no matter what.
Better off without the GOPers trying to sabotage it. |
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21st July 2021, 01:32 PM | #2135 |
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Highlighted: Wrong analogy. It can be attempted rape even if the man couldn't get a hard on.
No matter how ridiculously amateurish the Capitol rioters were, they attempted a coup. No matter how fluffy his wordings were, T**** incited a coup. "Stop the steal". There was no steal, and any attempt to stop the process was an attempt at a coup. Ignorance and idiocy is not an excuse for breaking the law. Hans |
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21st July 2021, 02:34 PM | #2136 |
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21st July 2021, 03:18 PM | #2138 |
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Hi, Stacyhs. I thought she rejected Jordan and Banks. McCarthy says he'll pull them all.
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21st July 2021, 07:43 PM | #2142 |
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That is a great point! Why have I not seen it put this way before? Anyone paying attention could see that Trump was attempting to steal a legitimate election for many weeks, including everyone at the Capitol that day. They knew exactly what they were doing and why. |
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21st July 2021, 08:10 PM | #2143 |
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And it wasn't running amok chasing cars.
Of course they believed as did Dump who sent them on their mission: stop the final certification of the election results. Dump in his fantasy world, the one in his mind that he lives in, ignorantly believed that somehow stopping a formality in the election process could actually stop the changeover from one POTUS to the next. He ignorantly believed state legislators could just stop their state's vote outcomes and declare Dump the winner. And that was the mission he sent his army of misfits on. |
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I put this in the "Trump has a mental illness" thread, too, because I couldn't decide where it belong.
Trump is blaming his election loss on dead people and paid Indians voting and on bad judges (86 of them), including the SC judges he nominated.
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22nd July 2021, 05:58 AM | #2146 |
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There was an episode of Underdog in which the villain arbitrarily declared that there would be an election appointing him dictator, with everyone voting Yes or No. He physically prevented everyone except himself and his henchman from voting, and the entire population passively said "We don't have a choice. He was elected dictator. We have to do what he says." Trump apparently lives in that world. |
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During the Jabba thread I often had to stop Jabba and remind him that even if he managed to win the argument on a technicality, he wasn't immortal and was still going to die.
In other words Trump has a "Patented Effective Election" method. |
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22nd July 2021, 06:38 AM | #2148 |
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How to destroy democracy in two easy steps- simply refuse to accept its underlying principle that someone's gotta lose, and sometimes that's gonna be your side. Then you jettison all of your party's other principles and make that refusal to accept reality the core policy around which you build all the party's activity.
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22nd July 2021, 10:55 AM | #2152 |
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I welcomed a coup attempt. I said it wouldn't work because Donald Trump is a dope, and it would permanently discredit Trumpism. For about a week, it looked like I was right. Nikki Haley, a woman of bottomless ambition, made her Trump critical remarks, but then things turned as elites realized the Republican base still supported Florida Man. That's twenty-five years of cable news propaganda, 30-plus years of Rush Limbaugh. Idiocracy wasn't built in a day. It's more resilient than COVID.
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22nd July 2021, 11:14 AM | #2153 |
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The other big problem Dump created was mucking up the elections themselves more than they were mucked up before. That's going to take a long while to sort out.
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22nd July 2021, 11:14 AM | #2154 |
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Some people welcomed Trump because they thought it was a sure way for Republicans to lose in 2016. I wasn't in the habit before, but any temptation I ever had to hope for a group to make a foolish and harmful decision, counting on it costing them support, is absolutely over.
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22nd July 2021, 06:27 PM | #2157 |
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This could just as easily go in the Trump mental illness thread.
The authors of "I Alone Can Fix It" said that during their over 2 hours interview with Trump, it was "just one lie after another" and that he's living in an alternate universe.
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23rd July 2021, 05:33 PM | #2158 |
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This stuff is so depressing. I am going to take one minute today and remember how thankful and relieved I was on November 7th when I heard that Trump had lost. Things could be so much worse. Maybe they will be one day, but I need to relax for a moment or two.
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I don't think a coup would have succeeded. There were however about half a dozen people who made sure we didn't find out and most their patriotism was found rather late.
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