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11th September 2018, 04:51 AM | #761 |
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11th September 2018, 05:43 AM | #763 |
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11th September 2018, 06:00 AM | #764 |
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11th September 2018, 06:02 AM | #765 |
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Affidavit from the Texas Rangers. Click to enlarge...
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11th September 2018, 06:10 AM | #766 |
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I don't believe her, I think the lights were on when she entered, why wouldn't they be?
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11th September 2018, 06:13 AM | #767 |
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11th September 2018, 06:18 AM | #768 |
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So her own story (a story she could have made up since she killed the only person that could counter it) is that she opened a door, saw a shape, and shot it.
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11th September 2018, 06:19 AM | #769 |
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This wasn't very late at night. 10 pm-ish, IIRC. No lights on? No TV on? Soemthing about this part of the story doesn't smell right to me.
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11th September 2018, 06:29 AM | #770 |
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And also had to go back to gawk at the door to realise she wasn't home, even after turning the lights on an seeing the contents of the appartment.
As I said, an idiot. She should be relieved of field duty immediately and permanently, prevented from using firearms in perpetuity, and then charged with at the very least deadly negligence or whatever the equivalent is down there. |
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This does make a little more sense, if she turned the lights on and saw that things didn't look like her apartment and so went to the door to check the number.
Still, she claims she went from zero to homicide with little information. There's no way a trained police officer shoots any suspect immediately. If anyone should show control and discipline with a weapon, and not resort to shooting in fear, it is a cop. |
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11th September 2018, 06:50 AM | #774 |
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I hadn't noted it before but she shot Jean whilst she was standing in the corridor, which to my mind makes a "fear reaction" even less likely.
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11th September 2018, 06:52 AM | #775 |
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From the affidavit: "...gave verbal commands that were ignored..." I wonder what those commands were?
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I don't know if it is spelled out to this degree of specificity in law enforcement but in the military it is beaten into us that in order to deploy lethal force the person(s) lethal force are being applied to have, Have, HAVE, got to meet three requirement*:
1. Capability - The target has the means of inflicting death or bodily harm. 2. Intent - The target has to expressed reasonably clear will and desire to cause death or bodily harm. 3. Opportunity - The target has to be in a reasonable position and scenario where they could cause death or bodily harm. Take away any of those and you keep your booger hook off the trigger, no questions asked, do not pass Go, do not collect 200 dollars. I've seen 18 year old boots with dishwater IQs grasp this concept after a single class and they do not get near a weapon until they understand it. Please take note that "I'm scared for my life" isn't in any of those. Please take note that "I'm in a situation where I haven't removed the chance of any possibility of any danger to myself" isn't in any of those. Please take note that "I can imagine myself in this scenario, therefore it can't be wrong" isn't in any of those. Please take note that "Failure to follow verbal commands" would only be one potential factor in Intent in some cases, not necessarily a blank check to shoot. *I think some of the other services call it Ability, Opportunity, and Jeopardy, but they are essentially talking the same three factors. |
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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What a fool believes, no wise man has the power to reason away. What seems to be, is always better than nothing. 2 prints, same midtarsal crock..., I mean break? |
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He's on his own in his apartment, suddenly a woman is there screaming commands and pointing a gun at him, and not having any military training he freezes with shock? Or he did say something but she was so pumped with adrenaline that she didn't hear him? Or he said something she didn't like and she shot without thinking, then decided it would sound better if she said he didn't respond in any way?
Please don't start trying to suggest Jean did something wrong here. A police officer entered his apartment illegally and shot him dead without properly assessing whether he presented any threat. Nothing he could have done, up to and including shooting her dead on the spot, could have been illegal in the circumstances. Dave |
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From a Texas Law Firm's site, the requirements for defense under Castle Doctrine:
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