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9th September 2018, 11:59 AM | #241 |
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In my high school, one of my classmate's brother was killed when he was on his skateboard. Apparently he was in a crouched position and darted out in front of an old lady while she was driving directly into the sun. She didn't even realize she had hit somebody and continued on driving. People at the scene thought it was a hit and run before the PD tracked her down. She was never charged.
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Of course not. But in order for it to be criminal, we have to establish a few things. Was she negligent? Did she intend to kill someone when she went home?
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Sometimes maintenance or emergency personnel have to access an apartment without notice to turn water off or whatever. I guess Officer Reaper would execute them too.
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The article you linked to didn't say a warrant has been issued. It said (in large print as part of the headline; "Manslaughter Warrant Sought For Officer Who Killed Neighbor" At last report that I can find, no warrant for her arrest and charge has been issued yet. Two days after the shooting the Chief of Police said they hadn't arrested or charged her yet, and now they couldn't because the Texas Rangers had taken over the case and asked them not to. If she had not been a police officer, just some mope who went to the wrong apartment and then shot the resident who answered the door, does anyone really believe that the cops would have been unable to get a warrant for her arrest and to file charges for two days? This has gone beyond ridiculous. It truly appears that there are no circumstances so outlandish that cops don't get special treatment for no reason at all. |
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Sure, but it shows pretty much five of the six panels of the door, and a good +6 inches either side (if there was a number on the wall, it wouldn't be on the left, as the wall angles away on that side). If it's on the top panel, it's well above head height.
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I'm as hard on the cops as many people here, and I'm not seeing that being relevant. She was coming off a long shift. I think Occam's Razor applies here: she was tired, mistook her apartment for someone else's, and freaked out when she saw a black guy in what she thought was her apartment. She's a white woman, so there's obviously a racial element here, and she may have overreacted, but that has yet to be proven.
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I blame her for not saying, "Who are you and what are you doing in my apartment.", instead of just shooting him without warning. I believe it is fairly clear that she is culpable for that much. She is culpable for shooting someone to death in their own home without any warning. If you believe there isn't a crime involved there then something is wrong with you. |
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If it is revealed that the legal occupant of the apartment was not threatening anyone, then it appears that shooting someone for being in their apartment makes the shooter a threat to society. If the shooter gets away with the killing then I'd say they are more likely to do it again.
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There is so far, as far as I can Google, no indication of what was said (if anything), where in the apartment the shooting took place, how the door got opened, or a myriad of other details that could shed light on wether or not a crime was committed here.
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All three? Maybe with a little time in jail she'll become less dangerous to society. It's pretty clear that she was dangerous last Thursday night. It would send a message to other members of society that shooting strangers in their own home , or ... hopefully ... anywhere else, with no warning is a wrong thing to do. Sitting behind bars for a while is intended to change someone's behavior. That's not to say it works, but it is certainly part of the intent. And removing her right to carry a firearm wouldn't be a bad outcome either. See point #1. |
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Considering that there is only one living witness to the events which transpired up to the point that Botham Jean was shot and killed, it is unlikely we are going to have a great deal more data to work with. We may have to settle for what we have. And the shooter has said nothing to mitigate the circumstances, the data we do have comes from her. |
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Umm, no. I don't think so.
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Jesus Christ, will progressives share this "Victim Ranking Chart" they keep using to make decisions on what is okay with the rest of us?
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Mistaking another's home for your own, negligent in the extreme. Especially for a cop. You know, that group of people who are supposed to be observant, aware, prepared so as to be able to identify problems, suspicious activity, detect crime, read people and their behaviour, make accurate assessments of threat.
Someone with dementia may reasonably not recognise their own home. Someone who has just moved house may at a push. But not a cop. Shooting the person, that is excessive force. There are plenty of alternatives, the main one being, asking some questions and keeping clam. Then there is the option of a retreat and call for assistance. She is culpable and has to take full blame for what happened. |
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