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10th May 2017, 02:19 PM | #521 |
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I have heard that he or Christie are his first choices but I don't believe it for a second. (Now watch me be wrong.)
But as I said I don't believe it because that would accelerate the furor. More than likely those choices are just being floated so another choice that might be unacceptable in his own right but not as controversial as those picks would certainly be could be made. |
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10th May 2017, 02:22 PM | #522 |
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Yeah, the only thing I know for sure is that the choice is going to be awful.
The Giuliani thing is only interesting because he's such a part of this Russian connection. Firing an independent FBI Director in the middle of investigating Trump Co. only to replace him with one of the people under investigation would be the ballsiest (and most corrupt) move arguably in Presidential history. Even Nixon didn't turn around and immediately appoint G. Gordon Liddy as special prosecutor... |
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10th May 2017, 02:51 PM | #528 |
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BS. We all have opinions based on things we think are true but aren't. This doesn't magically remove our responsibility in the decisions we make, because we have the ability to check these opinions against reality, and don't.
Trump was elected entirely legitimately. |
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I heard Hannity on the radio a few minutes ago.
These people are nuts. It was all about how Hillary was obviously a crook and blah, blah, blah. And the server in the bathroom. Again with the server in the bathroom. For those who don't know the origin of that lie, at some point (after she stopped being SoS, if I recall correctly, but I could be wrong.) she hired a company to take over her server. They had recently moved into a new office building, which they remodeled. The server room was in a space that had once housed a bathroom. Hannity refers to the company as a "mom and pop shop with a server in the bathroom." That's just a plain old, easy to verify, lie. Some of the other lies were much more severe, but they were subtle. "If you or I did what she did we would be in jail." That's a lie, but in theory it could just be a misunderstanding. Certainly, lots of people believe it, so when they, themselves, say it, it might just be an error, as opposed to being a lie. I focus on the "bathroom server" thing just because it is a lie, and he has repeated it often enough to know it's a lie, and it's easy to verify that it's a lie. |
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10th May 2017, 03:12 PM | #535 |
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There is a difference between a normal job and someone who as a political appointee works at the pleasure of the President. Many political appointees are fired simply for being appointed by previous administration every time WH changes occupancy. Traditionally this does not include the FBI which although Director is a political appointee, he is to run an apolitical department. Comey failed to do this & politicized the FBI to a degree only outdone by in Hoover days. He needed to go.
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He needed to go EARLIER. Trump waited until Comey was aiming at HIM to fire him. Whether or not Trump is being directly investigated at this time is not relevant, enough of the people closest to him and involved in his election are under suspicion to threaten him. Trump is calling attention to what he's afraid of.
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10th May 2017, 03:39 PM | #543 |
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Meh. I lost respect for Comey when he outlined all the reasons how Clinton's handling classified material was negligent then insisted negligence required "intent."
But I am also enjoying watching Democrats fall over themselves to explain how Trump's firing Comey now is, like, totally different from when they were calling for his head just a few weeks ago, man. |
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There is no loss of balance involved, no whiplash. Comey was Trump's darling for the Clinton email scandal, and should have been fired for what he did. Trump has now fired him almost a year later, citing the actions during the scandal that previously had been praised by Trump. The firing at this late date and during an investigation into Trump's administration itself points to fear and desperation on Trump's part.
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10th May 2017, 03:44 PM | #545 |
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Seriously, why is this tough for people?
Maybe Toronto fans are fed up with Dwayne Casey and think he should be fired. They don't think he gives them the best chance to win. Then he gets fired and the owner says, "We can't have a black coach." Are you able to see that it's possible to think Casey was a bad coach but also be upset about why he was fired? It seems to be the case that we Americans cannot handle even minimal levels of complexity. |
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You can't be this obtuse. Nobody cares about Comey. It's the obstruction of justice. It is the independence of the office. I do think Comey should have been fired for inserting himself in an election at that time. Not in an effort to derail any investigation. Trump firing Comey at this time reeks of corruption.
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The Democrat's love-hate-love merry-go-round relationship with Comey is obviously politically motivated and quite amusing to watch.
"Comey may not know the definition of 'negligence' but he's the best FBI director ever!" -- [Democrats before the election] "Comey should be fired immediately! He's the worst FBI director ever!" -- [Democrats after the election] "Yes, yes, Comey is totally incompetent. But it's completely unfair that he was actually fired as we've been insisting ever since the election." -- [Democrats now] |
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Again, the problem ISN'T COMEY. The problem is the reason behind his firing and the independence of the investigation into Russia. And if you believe that Trump fired Comey because of how he handled the Hillary Clinton email scandal I've got some swampland in Florida for sale.
I don't know many Democrats that are standing up for Comey because they think he's a great man. No, they are concerned that Trump is attempting to obstruct an investigation into his campaign and the Russians. Trump can easily alleviate that concern by invoking the Special Prosecutor Act. |
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Still wrong. There's a long-standing protocol on not doing anything to influence a presidential election, Comey violated it on multiple occasions, that's still negligence. And despite what he said, had anything come of the emails on Weiner's computer, he could easily have said "We have protocol to follow", and he'd have covered his arse at the very least.
Toupee Fiasco took the unprecedented step of firing the FBI head, while his campaign staff is under investigation. This, as others have said, reeks of corruption. Had he asked for Comey's resignation on day 1, I'd have said "Well, he kinda deserves it.". To do it now is just another display of his, and his staff's, incredible ignorance and stupidity. ETA: especially since they thought everyone would see it as a "win-win", which is what Nixon apparently thought as well. These people need to read books, and I don't mean fictional racist tracts about blowing up boats full of brown-skinned refugees, like Bannon does. |
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"Kinda?" He totally would have deserved it, and I would have said that the hellbeast occupying the Oval Office did something smart. I might even have thought there was a small chance for him to be serious about "draining the swamp." The hope would have proven false of course but, when it comes down to it, President Obama should have taken Comey out himself.
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If Obama had let him go, there would have been charges that he was stalling the Clinton investigation. No matter who let him go or when they did it, there was going to be a backlash because that's the way partisan politics works.
The only question that matters to me is: Did Comey deserve to be fired? If the answer is, "yes," then Trump did the right thing. |
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10th May 2017, 07:02 PM | #557 |
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********. Again, if he had been fired when he did something wrong (or right after the power to do so changed hands), that would be understandable. Firing him now for things that took place last year - things that were well publicized - is something else entirely.
We keep hearing that the firing was fine because the ****-spewing monster occupying the Oval Office had every right to do it. Well, he has had every right to do it for months. What made it so urgent now that the hellbeast couldn't even wait to do it in person, you know, in a civilized fashion? |
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The only way this works is if Trump fires him right away. We learn that Comey was already investigating so Trump advocates for a special prosecutor to investigate his campaign, "If someone in my campaign betrayed the nation, I want to know about it."
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I wonder if Trump knows that Deep Throat was in the FBI. Nah, he's probably never even heard of Deep Throat.
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