[Continuation] The behaviour of US police officers - part 2 - Page 50

Bob001 · 12th March 2023, 08:54 PM

Memphis had trouble hiring cops. So they lowered standards.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-tyre-nichols/

JoeMorgue · 15th March 2023, 11:12 AM

7 Virginia Sheriff's Deputies charged with 2nd degree murder after man dies in custody.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/vi...ath/index.html

erlando · 16th March 2023, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

7 Virginia Sheriff's Deputies charged with 2nd degree murder after man dies in custody.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/vi...ath/index.html

Quote:

Otieno had also been on medication for mental illness, but he was not able to take the medication while in custody

Having mental illness in my close relations I know how important medication can be and how absolutely devastating it can be for a person to not have their medication. It can go really fast downhill if medication is missed.

One should think that when the state puts people into custody it becomes the obligation of the state to ensure such things as medications are available. But then again this is the US...

novaphile · 16th March 2023, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by erlando

Having mental illness in my close relations I know how important medication can be and how absolutely devastating it can be for a person to not have their medication. It can go really fast downhill if medication is missed.

One should think that when the state puts people into custody it becomes the obligation of the state to ensure such things as medications are available. But then again this is the US...

Yes. Very sad to hear that.

I can assure you that 'duty of care' towards people in the custody of South Australia police is taken very seriously, including system support for the administration of medication.

(i.e. the Custody Officers are notified when medication needs to be given to people in custody.)

shemp · 17th March 2023, 04:34 PM

Iron County Sheriff, other department members accused of helping man in alleged parental kidnapping scheme

Quote:

IRON COUNTY, Mo. — The Iron County Sheriff and two deputies have been charged with multiple crimes including street gang activities, misusing 911, stalking, making a false report, looking up criminal records under false pretense and attempted kidnapping.

According to the charging documents, they were helping Rick Gaston, an Iron County resident, with a scheme to kidnap Gaston's children from their mother after a domestic dispute.

The Missouri Highway Patrol is now assisting with policing duties in the county about 95 miles south of St. Louis, and all of men have been booked into the Washington County jail.

Sheriff Jeff Burkett, Deputy Chase Bresnahan, Deputy Matt Cozad and Iron County resident Donald “Rick” Gaston are among those charged.

Quote:

According to charging documents, the charges stem from a domestic incident between Gaston and the mother of his child on Feb. 8. According to documents, he was "physically aggressive" with the woman.

Court documents allege that between February 10 and 11, Burkett, Gaston, Bresnahan and Cozad tried to help Gaston kidnap his daughter following a domestic incident involving Gaston and the mother of that child.

The men made a fake request for the detention and arrest of the mother of the child to the Washington County 911 dispatch center to help facilitate the kidnapping of the child, according to the documents.

Read the whole article, there's a lot more to this. I hope these bastards don't see sunlight again until they're very old, if ever.

Babbylonian · 18th March 2023, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

Iron County Sheriff, other department members accused of helping man in alleged parental kidnapping scheme

Read the whole article, there's a lot more to this. I hope these bastards don't see sunlight again until they're very old, if ever.

That sheriff is a true scumbag...a Raiders fan in Missouri.

tyr_13 · 18th March 2023, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by shemp

Iron County Sheriff, other department members accused of helping man in alleged parental kidnapping scheme

Read the whole article, there's a lot more to this. I hope these bastards don't see sunlight again until they're very old, if ever.

Nooo one stalks like Gaston
with the cops like Gaston,
no violates parental rights like Gaston!

His evil is simply extraordinary!
All cops are bastards Gaston!

shemp · 18th March 2023, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

That sheriff is a true scumbag...a Raiders fan in Missouri.

I hadn't noticed that, good catch. That's worth an extra ten years.

The Common Potato · 21st March 2023, 03:44 PM

Lax; very lax. They'll just have to shoot him later. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...T-officer.html

The Common Potato · 21st March 2023, 08:15 PM

Oh well: https://youtu.be/m1M5Tc7eLCo?list=RDVet6AHmq3_s

bruto · 25th March 2023, 06:52 AM

HEre's one. Link to story and a couple of youtube videos.

https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanox...or-being-mean/

tldr version: cops raid a person's house, vandalize it and openly steal money, house has security cameras, shows it all, person posts youtube videos showing it and cops' cavalier assumption of immunity. Now they're suing him for showing their faces, humiliating them and causing them emotional distress.

Thermal · 25th March 2023, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by bruto

HEre's one. Link to story and a couple of youtube videos.

https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanox...or-being-mean/

tldr version: cops raid a person's house, vandalize it and openly steal money, house has security cameras, shows it all, person posts youtube videos showing it and cops' cavalier assumption of immunity. Now they're suing him for showing their faces, humiliating them and causing them emotional distress.

This is actually a follow up to the earlier story from this thread. He wasn't just a random guy; he was Afroman, a well known 2000's rapper who still has enough chops to make noise and be heard. I'm still stunned that the cops thought they could get away with this.

Originally Posted by Thermal

Broken link yo.

Here's the whole story featuring the video "Will You Help Me Repair My Door?"

Deserves it's own thread, tbh. Cops cut off his home security video.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k83...cops-interview

Mr Afroman is, incidentally, a legitimate Independent running candidate for President of the United States in 2024.

pgwenthold · 25th March 2023, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

I'm still stunned that the cops thought they could get away with this.

I don't know why you would.

The reason they "thought they could get away with this" is because they always have in the past, so why should this be any different?

gnome · 25th March 2023, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

This is actually a follow up to the earlier story from this thread. He wasn't just a random guy; he was Afroman, a well known 2000's rapper who still has enough chops to make noise and be heard. I'm still stunned that the cops thought they could get away with this.

Mr Afroman is, incidentally, a legitimate Independent running candidate for President of the United States in 2024.

He released a sequel song to to his famous "Because I Got High" explaining how legalization can benefit a community and its economy. There have been dumber people in office.

bruto · 25th March 2023, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

This is actually a follow up to the earlier story from this thread. He wasn't just a random guy; he was Afroman, a well known 2000's rapper who still has enough chops to make noise and be heard. I'm still stunned that the cops thought they could get away with this.

Mr Afroman is, incidentally, a legitimate Independent running candidate for President of the United States in 2024.

Yes, I left that out, not being myself well informed on just how prominent Afroman is in that genre.

jimbob · 25th March 2023, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Thermal

Broken link yo.

Here's the whole story featuring the video "Will You Help Me Repair My Door?"

Deserves it's own thread, tbh. Cops cut off his home security video.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k83...cops-interview

From that.

Quote:

Were you surprised to see that the deputies searching your house disconnected your personal security cameras?

Yeah. The police officers represent the law. According to America, police officers are the good guys. I figured a good guy would want to leave the camera going so he can verify the fact that he is a good guy. I know burglars and crooks and criminals and murderers, they spray paint the cameras. They want to take them down because they don't want you to see who they are and what they're doing. So I'm wondering, why is the good guy disconnecting the camera, taking away the verification that he is good? It seems suspicious to me—like he's not good.

Who'd have thought it?

Thermal · 25th March 2023, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by pgwenthold

I don't know why you would.

The reason they "thought they could get away with this" is because they always have in the past, so why should this be any different?

Because he is a platinum selling Grammy nominated millionaire who people will listen to, not some schmuck from down the road. The lads from the sheriff's office have recently discovered that he can bite back.

Trebuchet · 25th March 2023, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

HEre's one. Link to story and a couple of youtube videos.

https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanox...or-being-mean/

tldr version: cops raid a person's house, vandalize it and openly steal money, house has security cameras, shows it all, person posts youtube videos showing it and cops' cavalier assumption of immunity. Now they're suing him for showing their faces, humiliating them and causing them emotional distress.

Similar case from 2015. Cops raid a dispensary, immediately disable the security video system, and have fun playing around and munching the munches. Except they disabled the decoy security video system while the real one recorded their antics. So they sued.

Thermal · 25th March 2023, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Similar case from 2015. Cops raid a dispensary, immediately disable the security video system, and have fun playing around and munching the munches. Except they disabled the decoy security video system while the real one recorded their antics. So they sued.

Broken link. Here's a fixed one:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-investigation

Trebuchet · 25th March 2023, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Thermal

Broken link. Here's a fixed one:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-investigation

Sorry 'bout that. Here are a couple more, courtesy of the frequently hilarious and occasionally infuriating* Raising The Bar blog.
https://www.loweringthebar.net/2015/...f-privacy.html
https://www.loweringthebar.net/2017/...o-privacy.html

*It's not the blog that's infuriating, it's the behavior of some of those blogged about, most notably the TSA.

Brainster · Today, 12:01 PM

If this thread isn't only about bad behavior, here's the bodycam footage of the Nashville cops taking down the school shooter. It's only available on Youtube and while I wouldn't describe it as at all graphic, it is intense. Great job by these heroic officers!

jimbob · Today, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

If this thread isn't only about bad behavior, here's the bodycam footage of the Nashville cops taking down the school shooter. It's only available on Youtube and while I wouldn't describe it as at all graphic, it is intense. Great job by these heroic officers!

That is the thing about the US system, with 18,000 organisations with police powers and about 12,000 actual independent police forces, there will organisations with a good culture.

Suddenly · Today, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by jimbob

That is the thing about the US system, with 18,000 organisations with police powers and about 12,000 actual independent police forces, there will organisations with a good culture.

I think the vast majority of cops I deal with are about as good as could be expected.

It's a matter of the police being connected to the community they serve. We can training this and oversight that and none of that is ever going to matter.

Although in the mass shooting context there is that this is the one bright spot w/r/t police militarization. They should get better at dealing with mass shooters and other dramatic violence. It's when they see mortal danger that isn't there that's the problem. Especially when they see the people as more a problem and less as neighbors.

tyr_13 · Today, 04:19 PM

San Jose police union executive caught importing valeryl fentanyl to distribute. (DoJ link)

Aridas · Today, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Suddenly

I think the vast majority of cops I deal with are about as good as could be expected.

It's a matter of the police being connected to the community they serve. We can training this and oversight that and none of that is ever going to matter.

Although in the mass shooting context there is that this is the one bright spot w/r/t police militarization. They should get better at dealing with mass shooters and other dramatic violence. It's when they see mortal danger that isn't there that's the problem. Especially when they see the people as more a problem and less as neighbors.

Similarly, there's also the concept that most cops will generally be acting or at least trying to be acting in line with what they believe they're supposed to be doing. It's just that, say, 100 good, professional actions don't really excuse even 1 crime in any decent profession, at last check. Nor do cops and others having far too commonplace and widespread an issue with turning a blind eye to wrongs being done by other cops help much.

It's totally fine to argue that cops do good work 99% of the time (questionable, of course, but that's generally the case with numbers pulled out one's wazoo). It's just no excuse for the wrongs that are actually done, nor a defense for the actual trends in play.

15th March 2023, 11:12 AM	#1962
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16th March 2023, 01:25 AM	#1963
erlando Master Poster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,416	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue 7 Virginia Sheriff's Deputies charged with 2nd degree murder after man dies in custody. https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/vi...ath/index.html Quote: Otieno had also been on medication for mental illness, but he was not able to take the medication while in custody Having mental illness in my close relations I know how important medication can be and how absolutely devastating it can be for a person to not have their medication. It can go really fast downhill if medication is missed. One should think that when the state puts people into custody it becomes the obligation of the state to ensure such things as medications are available. But then again this is the US...
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16th March 2023, 06:12 PM	#1964
novaphile Quester of Doglets Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sunny South Australia Posts: 4,468	Originally Posted by erlando Having mental illness in my close relations I know how important medication can be and how absolutely devastating it can be for a person to not have their medication. It can go really fast downhill if medication is missed. One should think that when the state puts people into custody it becomes the obligation of the state to ensure such things as medications are available. But then again this is the US... Yes. Very sad to hear that. I can assure you that 'duty of care' towards people in the custody of South Australia police is taken very seriously, including system support for the administration of medication. (i.e. the Custody Officers are notified when medication needs to be given to people in custody.)
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17th March 2023, 04:34 PM	#1965
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 53,874	Iron County Sheriff, other department members accused of helping man in alleged parental kidnapping scheme Quote: IRON COUNTY, Mo. — The Iron County Sheriff and two deputies have been charged with multiple crimes including street gang activities, misusing 911, stalking, making a false report, looking up criminal records under false pretense and attempted kidnapping. According to the charging documents, they were helping Rick Gaston, an Iron County resident, with a scheme to kidnap Gaston's children from their mother after a domestic dispute. The Missouri Highway Patrol is now assisting with policing duties in the county about 95 miles south of St. Louis, and all of men have been booked into the Washington County jail. Sheriff Jeff Burkett, Deputy Chase Bresnahan, Deputy Matt Cozad and Iron County resident Donald “Rick” Gaston are among those charged. Quote: According to charging documents, the charges stem from a domestic incident between Gaston and the mother of his child on Feb. 8. According to documents, he was "physically aggressive" with the woman. Court documents allege that between February 10 and 11, Burkett, Gaston, Bresnahan and Cozad tried to help Gaston kidnap his daughter following a domestic incident involving Gaston and the mother of that child. The men made a fake request for the detention and arrest of the mother of the child to the Washington County 911 dispatch center to help facilitate the kidnapping of the child, according to the documents. Read the whole article, there's a lot more to this. I hope these bastards don't see sunlight again until they're very old, if ever.
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18th March 2023, 07:01 AM	#1967
tyr_13 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 17,541	Originally Posted by shemp Iron County Sheriff, other department members accused of helping man in alleged parental kidnapping scheme Read the whole article, there's a lot more to this. I hope these bastards don't see sunlight again until they're very old, if ever. Nooo one stalks like Gaston with the cops like Gaston, no violates parental rights like Gaston! His evil is simply extraordinary! All cops are bastards Gaston!
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12th March 2023, 08:54 PM	#1961
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 16,580	Memphis had trouble hiring cops. So they lowered standards. https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...-tyre-nichols/

18th March 2023, 12:06 AM	#1966
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,994	Originally Posted by shemp Iron County Sheriff, other department members accused of helping man in alleged parental kidnapping scheme Read the whole article, there's a lot more to this. I hope these bastards don't see sunlight again until they're very old, if ever. That sheriff is a true scumbag...a Raiders fan in Missouri.

18th March 2023, 12:48 PM	#1968
shemp a flimsy character...perfidious and despised Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Out back preparing the bunker for the next Civil War Posts: 53,874	Originally Posted by Babbylonian That sheriff is a true scumbag...a Raiders fan in Missouri. I hadn't noticed that, good catch. That's worth an extra ten years.
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21st March 2023, 03:44 PM	#1969
The Common Potato Muse Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: The Scunthorpe Problem Posts: 581	Lax; very lax. They'll just have to shoot him later. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...T-officer.html

21st March 2023, 08:15 PM	#1970
The Common Potato Muse Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: The Scunthorpe Problem Posts: 581	Oh well: https://youtu.be/m1M5Tc7eLCo?list=RDVet6AHmq3_s

25th March 2023, 06:52 AM	#1971
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,291	HEre's one. Link to story and a couple of youtube videos. https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanox...or-being-mean/ tldr version: cops raid a person's house, vandalize it and openly steal money, house has security cameras, shows it all, person posts youtube videos showing it and cops' cavalier assumption of immunity. Now they're suing him for showing their faces, humiliating them and causing them emotional distress.
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25th March 2023, 07:38 AM	#1972
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: In the Troll Ignoring Section Posts: 21,992	Originally Posted by bruto HEre's one. Link to story and a couple of youtube videos. https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanox...or-being-mean/ tldr version: cops raid a person's house, vandalize it and openly steal money, house has security cameras, shows it all, person posts youtube videos showing it and cops' cavalier assumption of immunity. Now they're suing him for showing their faces, humiliating them and causing them emotional distress. This is actually a follow up to the earlier story from this thread. He wasn't just a random guy; he was Afroman, a well known 2000's rapper who still has enough chops to make noise and be heard. I'm still stunned that the cops thought they could get away with this. Originally Posted by Thermal Broken link yo. Here's the whole story featuring the video "Will You Help Me Repair My Door?" Deserves it's own thread, tbh. Cops cut off his home security video. https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k83...cops-interview Mr Afroman is, incidentally, a legitimate Independent running candidate for President of the United States in 2024.
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25th March 2023, 08:54 AM	#1973
pgwenthold Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 21,039	Originally Posted by Thermal I'm still stunned that the cops thought they could get away with this. I don't know why you would. The reason they "thought they could get away with this" is because they always have in the past, so why should this be any different?
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25th March 2023, 09:18 AM	#1974
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 13,579	Originally Posted by Thermal This is actually a follow up to the earlier story from this thread. He wasn't just a random guy; he was Afroman, a well known 2000's rapper who still has enough chops to make noise and be heard. I'm still stunned that the cops thought they could get away with this. Mr Afroman is, incidentally, a legitimate Independent running candidate for President of the United States in 2024. He released a sequel song to to his famous "Because I Got High" explaining how legalization can benefit a community and its economy. There have been dumber people in office.
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25th March 2023, 09:22 AM	#1975
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 34,291	Originally Posted by Thermal This is actually a follow up to the earlier story from this thread. He wasn't just a random guy; he was Afroman, a well known 2000's rapper who still has enough chops to make noise and be heard. I'm still stunned that the cops thought they could get away with this. Mr Afroman is, incidentally, a legitimate Independent running candidate for President of the United States in 2024. Yes, I left that out, not being myself well informed on just how prominent Afroman is in that genre.
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25th March 2023, 09:26 AM	#1976
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 29,273	Originally Posted by Thermal Broken link yo. Here's the whole story featuring the video "Will You Help Me Repair My Door?" Deserves it's own thread, tbh. Cops cut off his home security video. https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k83...cops-interview From that. Quote: Were you surprised to see that the deputies searching your house disconnected your personal security cameras? Yeah. The police officers represent the law. According to America, police officers are the good guys. I figured a good guy would want to leave the camera going so he can verify the fact that he is a good guy. I know burglars and crooks and criminals and murderers, they spray paint the cameras. They want to take them down because they don't want you to see who they are and what they're doing. So I'm wondering, why is the good guy disconnecting the camera, taking away the verification that he is good? It seems suspicious to me—like he's not good. Who'd have thought it?
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25th March 2023, 10:24 AM	#1977
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: In the Troll Ignoring Section Posts: 21,992	Originally Posted by pgwenthold I don't know why you would. The reason they "thought they could get away with this" is because they always have in the past, so why should this be any different? Because he is a platinum selling Grammy nominated millionaire who people will listen to, not some schmuck from down the road. The lads from the sheriff's office have recently discovered that he can bite back.
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25th March 2023, 01:01 PM	#1978
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 36,023	Originally Posted by bruto HEre's one. Link to story and a couple of youtube videos. https://freethoughtblogs.com/oceanox...or-being-mean/ tldr version: cops raid a person's house, vandalize it and openly steal money, house has security cameras, shows it all, person posts youtube videos showing it and cops' cavalier assumption of immunity. Now they're suing him for showing their faces, humiliating them and causing them emotional distress. Similar case from 2015. Cops raid a dispensary, immediately disable the security video system, and have fun playing around and munching the munches. Except they disabled the decoy security video system while the real one recorded their antics. So they sued.
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25th March 2023, 02:15 PM	#1979
Thermal Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: In the Troll Ignoring Section Posts: 21,992	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Similar case from 2015. Cops raid a dispensary, immediately disable the security video system, and have fun playing around and munching the munches. Except they disabled the decoy security video system while the real one recorded their antics. So they sued. Broken link. Here's a fixed one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-investigation
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25th March 2023, 02:32 PM	#1980
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 36,023	Originally Posted by Thermal Broken link. Here's a fixed one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-investigation Sorry 'bout that. Here are a couple more, courtesy of the frequently hilarious and occasionally infuriating* Raising The Bar blog. https://www.loweringthebar.net/2015/...f-privacy.html https://www.loweringthebar.net/2017/...o-privacy.html *It's not the blog that's infuriating, it's the behavior of some of those blogged about, most notably the TSA.
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Today, 12:01 PM	#1981
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Today, 12:21 PM	#1982
jimbob Uncritical "thinker" Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 29,273	Originally Posted by Brainster If this thread isn't only about bad behavior, here's the bodycam footage of the Nashville cops taking down the school shooter. It's only available on Youtube and while I wouldn't describe it as at all graphic, it is intense. Great job by these heroic officers! That is the thing about the US system, with 18,000 organisations with police powers and about 12,000 actual independent police forces, there will organisations with a good culture.
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Today, 01:23 PM	#1983
Suddenly No Punting Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Not In Follansbee Posts: 5,487	Originally Posted by jimbob That is the thing about the US system, with 18,000 organisations with police powers and about 12,000 actual independent police forces, there will organisations with a good culture. I think the vast majority of cops I deal with are about as good as could be expected. It's a matter of the police being connected to the community they serve. We can training this and oversight that and none of that is ever going to matter. Although in the mass shooting context there is that this is the one bright spot w/r/t police militarization. They should get better at dealing with mass shooters and other dramatic violence. It's when they see mortal danger that isn't there that's the problem. Especially when they see the people as more a problem and less as neighbors.

Today, 04:19 PM	#1984
tyr_13 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 17,541	San Jose police union executive caught importing valeryl fentanyl to distribute. (DoJ link)
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Today, 09:15 PM	#1985
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 9,785	Originally Posted by Suddenly I think the vast majority of cops I deal with are about as good as could be expected. It's a matter of the police being connected to the community they serve. We can training this and oversight that and none of that is ever going to matter. Although in the mass shooting context there is that this is the one bright spot w/r/t police militarization. They should get better at dealing with mass shooters and other dramatic violence. It's when they see mortal danger that isn't there that's the problem. Especially when they see the people as more a problem and less as neighbors. Similarly, there's also the concept that most cops will generally be acting or at least trying to be acting in line with what they believe they're supposed to be doing. It's just that, say, 100 good, professional actions don't really excuse even 1 crime in any decent profession, at last check. Nor do cops and others having far too commonplace and widespread an issue with turning a blind eye to wrongs being done by other cops help much. It's totally fine to argue that cops do good work 99% of the time (questionable, of course, but that's generally the case with numbers pulled out one's wazoo). It's just no excuse for the wrongs that are actually done, nor a defense for the actual trends in play.
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