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Old 8th April 2021, 10:41 AM   #1
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More than 55 Million People Die Worldwwithin 24 hours after Article being Published

Woman dies three hours after receiving her first Covid-19 vaccination in Logan, Queensland

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ueensland.html

Oh well. "It's not clear if the vaccine has any link to the woman's death as she was also suffering from a lung disease at the time of her death."

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-per-year?country=~OWID_WRL
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Nicolas Cage and Norway are the real threats:

https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

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I don't understand the thread title at all.
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More than the normal could die from the Mrna vaccine drugs, but again there are about 7.7Billion in the world....
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Old 8th April 2021, 11:36 AM   #5
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Only way I can reconcile the title with the data provided is that the OP has confused days with years and possibly used the wrong year.

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Old 8th April 2021, 11:50 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Caroline13 View Post
More than the normal could die from the Mrna vaccine drugs, but again there are about 7.7Billion in the world....
So, "a while" is about four hours.

Regarding the highlighted word - you don't really know, do you. You've become somewhat notorious for citing sources that make a lot of bat **** insane claims, so it's reasonable to assume that the source for your latest claim is no different.

If people aren't dying in droves from the vaccines in four months, will you simply ignore all reminders of your claim, or will you revise your prophecy for fulfillment at a later date? It seems doubtful you'll admit that you were wrong.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I don't understand the thread title at all.
I suspect Gord is mocking the Daily Mail for its shameless sensationalism and failure to establish causality by jokingly implying that any deaths occurring immediately after publication of their article can be blamed on said article.
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
So, "a while" is about four hours.I

Regarding the highlighted word - you don't really know, do you. You've become somewhat notorious for citing sources that make a lot of bat **** insane claims, so it's reasonable to assume that the source for your latest claim is no different.

If people aren't dying in droves from the vaccines in four months, will you simply ignore all reminders of your claim, or will you revise your prophecy for fulfillment at a later date? It seems doubtful you'll admit that you were wrong.
No one KNOWS and I'm very careful with my Coulds, Woulds, Shoulds.

And Pharma will continue to protect their technology vaccines. Deny all they can and media goes along with Pharma.


And in the last couple days all I'm hearing are commercials on mothers/grandmothers pleading with their families to get the vaccines so we can all sit together and grandma can cook for everyone again ..... sickening...and I'd bet big that this is all over the TVs now, which I do not own.
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Originally Posted by Gord_in_Toronto View Post
Woman dies three hours after receiving her first Covid-19 vaccination in Logan, Queensland

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ueensland.html

Oh well. "It's not clear if the vaccine has any link to the woman's death as she was also suffering from a lung disease at the time of her death."

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-per-year?country=~OWID_WRL
Lots of reports of deaths after the Mrna jabs, and it can NOT be totally clear as to just why, but makes one think a lot, if one is a critical thinker.
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Old 8th April 2021, 12:24 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Caroline13 View Post
No one KNOWS and I'm very careful with my Coulds, Woulds, Shoulds.

And Pharma will continue to protect their technology vaccines. Deny all they can and media goes along with Pharma.
You could stand to be a little more careful with your syntax.

For someone who doesn't know, you've been awfully specific about advising people not to get vaccinated. So what source has convinced you? Was it one of those other sources that advocates crazy things that you clearly don't want to talk about? And given that you thought that DNA was a preservative, why should anyone conclude that you know anything about mRNA? You don't even know how to write the acronym.
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Originally Posted by Caroline13 View Post
Lots of reports of deaths after the Mrna jabs, and it can NOT be totally clear as to just why, but makes one think a lot, if one is a critical thinker.
A critical thinker knows about risk/reward ratios.
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Lots of reports of deaths after the Mrna jabs, and it can NOT be totally clear as to just why, but makes one think a lot, if one is a critical thinker.
Is the critical thinker you, by any chance - the person who thought Deoxyribonucleic acid was a food preservative?

If you're a critical thinker then I'm Neil Armstrong.
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Originally Posted by Caroline13 View Post
Lots of reports of deaths after the Mrna jabs...
Citation needed.


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...and it can NOT be totally clear as to just why, but makes one think a lot, if one is a critical thinker.
What can be stated with absolute certainty is that any very large population sample will contain individuals who will die within a short time after being sampled. If you vaccinate millions of people, some of them are going to be dead a few weeks later. If you sample millions of people who watch the series finale of a hit TV show, some of them will be dead within a few weeks.

Most of the people here are educated enough to recognize a **** methodology when we smell one. And if all you can offer is anecdotal reports about people dying after a COVID-19 vaccination, that's a **** methodology. You might as well offer anecdotal reports as proof that the series finale of The Office was deadly by pointing to a handful of fans who died within a week of watching it.

You don't have any statistics supporting a higher than normal death rate for the population that has been vaccinated, nor any medical statistics attributing a significant number of deaths to vaccines. If such data does materialize, it certainly won't be someone like you who finds it.
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Lots of reports of deaths after the Mrna jabs . . .
Reports? Anecdotes? Bull ******

You are not a critical thinker; you are a bull ******** snake oil peddler whose health advice should be ignored.

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Lots of reports of deaths after the Mrna jabs, and it can NOT be totally clear as to just why, but makes one think a lot, if one is a critical thinker.
If there are "lots of reports", you should be able to link to one or two so we can evaluate their veracity.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
I don't understand the thread title at all.
Failure of imagination? I screwed up the title because I exceeded the number of characters I could type.
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Originally Posted by RecoveringYuppy View Post
Only way I can reconcile the title with the data provided is that the OP has confused days with years and possibly used the wrong year.
Or even both?
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And in the last couple days all I'm hearing are commercials on mothers/grandmothers pleading with their families to get the vaccines so we can all sit together and grandma can cook for everyone again ..... sickening...and I'd bet big that this is all over the TVs now, which I do not own.
You're hearing commercials and yet you don't have a TV? Uh oh...Quick! Get the tinfoil!

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I suspect Gord is mocking the Daily Mail for its shameless sensationalism and failure to establish causality by jokingly implying that any deaths occurring immediately after publication of their article can be blamed on said article.
Possibly right. I'll take other explanations.
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Lots of reports of deaths after the Mrna jabs, and it can NOT be totally clear as to just why, but makes one think a lot, if one is a critical thinker.
Ok. So here's one who doesn't (get it).
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Ok. So here's one who doesn't (get it).
This is the danger when you aim satire above the LCD when some people are peddling dangerous, possibly lethal misinformation.
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You're hearing commercials and yet you don't have a TV? Uh oh...Quick! Get the tinfoil!
No... she's definitely a talk radio and Facebook kind o' gal.
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
I suspect Gord is mocking the Daily Mail for its shameless sensationalism and failure to establish causality by jokingly implying that any deaths occurring immediately after publication of their article can be blamed on said article.
That was my take as well.
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More than the normal could die from the Mrna vaccine drugs, but again there are about 7.7Billion in the world....
How many of the two experimental groups in the MRNA vaccines trials have died?
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No one KNOWS and I'm very careful with my Coulds, Woulds, Shoulds.
Wow, that's the funniest thing you've written yet. Your lie here made me shoot beer out of my nose. It's expensive beer too. Of course you're not careful about what you write. I'm assuming you're being ironic here since it's so obviously dishonest.
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You're hearing commercials and yet you don't have a TV? Uh oh...Quick! Get the tinfoil!
I have my radio on from 1PM until I go to sleep at 11:30PM...wise person...
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How many of the two experimental groups in the MRNA vaccines trials have died?
This may be fairly recent, could be higher by now:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...orts-death-up/
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Over the last 3 months I'm certain a much higher percentage of people that got Covid-19 vaccines have died than the percentage of people that died that hadn't been vaccinated.

For pretty obvious reasons. Duh.
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150,000 people per day was typical as of 2017 (from all causes). (The figure cited in the famous song by Blue Oyster Cult "40,000 men and women every day" is a bit out of date. The song was recorded in 1975, and probably relied on earlier estimates.) Recently according to Worldometer, the number of deaths due to COVID-19 is about 10,000 per day. Likely an underestimate of course. If I had to guess I'd say somewhere around 180,000 people have died within the last 24 hours. 55 million though? unlikely.
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This may be fairly recent, could be higher by now:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/d...orts-death-up/
Ah, here we have a website advocating that there is still mercury in vaccines (there isn't), that vaccines causes autism (they don't), and that the current vaccines alter DNA (they don't). Basically a mouthpiece for RFK Jr. who has the woo-woos REAL bad.

Nice looking website, pity the research is so pitifully bad.
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I have my radio on from 1PM until I go to sleep at 11:30PM...wise person...
Don't the other nursing home residents complain about 8pm or so?
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I have my radio on from 1PM until I go to sleep at 11:30PM...wise person...
You do realise that there are some TV channels which are far more trustworthy sources of information than most radio channels? And that such TV channels are also more trustworthy than many websites, including the ones you uncritically believe and quote?

You seem a lot like my late brother-in-law, whose tendancy to believe what he read was inversely proportional to the amount of evidence for it. He would proudly boast that he didn't believe in evolution, whilst assuring me that aliens were living amongst us and the world would end in 1999. Unfortunately one of the well evidenced scientific discoveries he refused to believe was that there was a link between smoking and cancer. He smoked like a chimney, and died of cancer at the age of 59.
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Woman dies three hours after receiving her first Covid-19 vaccination in Logan, Queensland

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ueensland.html

Oh well. "It's not clear if the vaccine has any link to the woman's death as she was also suffering from a lung disease at the time of her death."

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-deaths-per-year?country=~OWID_WRL
Our Federal Health Minister, usually a fountain of platitudes, got it right this time in relation to this event:
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Health Minister Greg Hunt said more than 1000 people died in aged care in Australia every week, and that number would inevitably include people who had been vaccinated recently.
Simples.
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Ah, here we have a website advocating that there is still mercury in vaccines (there isn't), that vaccines causes autism (they don't), and that the current vaccines alter DNA (they don't). Basically a mouthpiece for RFK Jr. who has the woo-woos REAL bad.

Nice looking website, pity the research is so pitifully bad.
Regarding the highlighted:
I spent some time of RFK Jr's website, looking for evidence for his claims. I came away with a bad taste in my mouth.
Yes, the site is very slick and glossy-looking, and has the appearance of having factual, medical foundations.
The reality is somewhat different. The 'Fact Sheets' that I read contained nothing of the sort: rather, they were full of half-truths, distorted and out-of-context claims, and a number of claims that were completely untrue.
I discovered this by some simple googling- and this is where I (respectfully) disagree with you. This is not poor research: this is deliberate dishonesty. It is simply not possible to have gained the level of knowledge to be able to post what they did, without simultaneously learning that the claims are false.
The site is pure propaganda- well-presented, surprisingly (for CT-ists) gramatically accurate, and with lots of picture of people in white lab coats to make it look all doctory- but all of it intentionally misleading.
My guess is that these people want attention, adoration and renumeration, and don't care at all how they get it.
Sickening- and shame on you, Caroline13, for spreading this toxic manure. People are dying because of this kind of misinformation and scaremongering.
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I spent some time of RFK Jr's website, looking for evidence for his claims. I came away with a bad taste in my mouth.
Yes, the site is very slick and glossy-looking, and has the appearance of having factual, medical foundations.
The reality is somewhat different. The 'Fact Sheets' that I read contained nothing of the sort: rather, they were full of half-truths, distorted and out-of-context claims, and a number of claims that were completely untrue.
I discovered this by some simple googling- and this is where I (respectfully) disagree with you. This is not poor research: this is deliberate dishonesty. It is simply not possible to have gained the level of knowledge to be able to post what they did, without simultaneously learning that the claims are false.
We are in violent agreement. I meant "bad" as in "criminal".
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The site is pure propaganda- well-presented, surprisingly (for CT-ists) gramatically accurate, and with lots of picture of people in white lab coats to make it look all doctory- but all of it intentionally misleading.
My guess is that these people want attention, adoration and renumeration, and don't care at all how they get it.
Sickening- and shame on you, Caroline13, for spreading this toxic manure. People are dying because of this kind of misinformation and scaremongering.
More than anything, they want your MONEY.
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Our Federal Health Minister, usually a fountain of platitudes, got it right this time in relation to this event
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Health Minister Greg Hunt said more than 1000 people died in aged care in Australia every week, and that number would inevitably include people who had been vaccinated recently.

It's like the claims back in the `80s that "x% of teenagers who play Dungeons & Dragons have committed suicide", without mentioning that the percentage of teenagers in general who committed suicide was the exact same percentage, or slightly higher.
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Still can't or won't get mRNA right - check.

Still linking to well-known sites of disinformation - check.

Still making unsubstantiated claims - check.

Oh, a new twist: claiming to see TV ads on a TV they don't have. Mmmmm, I'm sure I encountered that sort of thing professionally...
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Still can't or won't get mRNA right - check.

Still linking to well-known sites of disinformation - check.

Still making unsubstantiated claims - check.

Oh, a new twist: claiming to see TV ads on a TV they don't have. Mmmmm, I'm sure I encountered that sort of thing professionally...
Don't forget still lying about having misidentified DNA as a preservative & then doubled down on it. (Guess it's better to be a liar than uninformed & too lazy to google)
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Oh, a new twist: claiming to see TV ads on a TV they don't have. Mmmmm, I'm sure I encountered that sort of thing professionally...
Time for Caroline13 to go to the nuthouse, methinks.
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Oh, a new twist: claiming to see TV ads on a TV they don't have. Mmmmm, I'm sure I encountered that sort of thing professionally...
It's worse than that. Apparently she listens to 10½ hours of radio a day, with some of it being Alex Jones.
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