[Continuation] The Trump Presidency: Part 27

Babbylonian · 5th January 2021, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

That's an interesting thought. If Trump flies anywhere near the end of his term, how will the codes be brought back to DC on the 20th?

It's not that interesting. Any staff, including military officers (like the one carrying the "football"), who would not remain with an ex-president would either go home on the former Air Force One or other military aircraft as soon as Biden is sworn in. If Trump decides to be such a pissy loser as to be out of DC on inauguration day and they still want to give Trump the traditional last ride on a presidential aircraft (assuming he's not already at his home), they'd probably send a backup aircraft for that specific purpose.

gnome · 5th January 2021, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Assuming they gave trump valid codes and a working "nuclear football".

Maybe they were smart 4 years ago and realized how unstable and a security risk trump was and gave him fakes

Sent from my LM-X320 using Tapatalk

Why am I reminded of giving a small child a disconnected controller to mollify them?

Aridas · 5th January 2021, 12:40 PM

Taking a cue from Trump...

GOP seizes control of Pa. Senate floor, blocks Brewster from being seated

Quote:

The Pennsylvania Senate devolved into chaos Tuesday as Republicans refused to seat Democrat Jim Brewster of McKeesport to his third term in office.

The state certified Brewster as the winner of the Nov. 3 election in the 45th District, which includes parts of Allegheny and Westmoreland counties. His victory was set aside by Republican senators who claimed a pending federal lawsuit by his GOP challenger Nicole Ziccarelli was reason to delay his seating.

Skeptic Ginger · 5th January 2021, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by Aridas

Taking a cue from Trump...

GOP seizes control of Pa. Senate floor, blocks Brewster from being seated

I posted more about this in the Coup thread.

Horatius · 5th January 2021, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B

Knowing Trump, as Commander-in-Chief, he’ll order the pilot of Air Force One to fly to Scotland, then land even without a clearance to do so. The confrontation on the tarmac could be worthy of pay-per-view.

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

That's an interesting thought. If Trump flies anywhere near the end of his term, how will the codes be brought back to DC on the 20th?

On this question, there's an important issue to consider: it's well established that on a plane in flight, the pilot is the ultimate authority, regardless of the rank of anyone else who might be on that plane. Trump could very well order the pilot of AF1 to do something really stupid like land without authorization, or fly to Russia, but the pilot is under no obligation to actually follow that order.

The pilot might face a court martial afterwards, but while in flight, Trump would be powerless. And I suspect a court martial would likely find that any such order was actually illegal, so the pilot would be off the hook.

Ladewig · 5th January 2021, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Assuming they gave trump valid codes and a working "nuclear football".

Maybe they were smart 4 years ago and realized how unstable and a security risk trump was and gave him fakes

Sent from my LM-X320 using Tapatalk

There’s no reason to give him fake codes.
The code card consists of two columns of numbers. When the president is given the daily card, he is told something like, “the first half of today’s code will be the third entry from the first column and the second half will be the fourth entry from the second column.” These’s no way President Chucklehead could remember something like that.

Captain_Swoop · 5th January 2021, 03:36 PM

trump Tweets

I will be speaking at the SAVE AMERICA RALLY tomorrow on the Ellipse at 11AM Eastern. Arrive early — doors open at 7AM Eastern. BIG CROWDS!

Segnosaur · 5th January 2021, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

trump Tweets

I will be speaking at the SAVE AMERICA RALLY tomorrow on the Ellipse at 11AM Eastern. Arrive early — doors open at 7AM Eastern. BIG CROWDS!

Just what America needs...

Despite the fact that the election result is decided and it won't help Trump or the republicans (and its too late to help with any run-off elections), Trump is going to have another covid super-spreader event.

Darat · 5th January 2021, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

There’s no reason to give him fake codes.
The code card consists of two columns of numbers. When the president is given the daily card, he is told something like, “the first half of today’s code will be the third entry from the first column and the second half will be the fourth entry from the second column.” These’s no way President Chucklehead could remember something like that.

He’d at best circle the code with his sharpie. At worse post it on Twitter.

Babbylonian · 5th January 2021, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Darat

He’d at best circle the code with his sharpie. At worse post it on Twitter.

Don't be ridiculous. He'd give it to the Russian ambassador.

Dave Rogers · 5th January 2021, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Darat

He’d at best circle the code with his sharpie. At worse post it on Twitter.

Or change it to MAGA2020.

Dave

Darat · 5th January 2021, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

Don't be ridiculous. He'd give it to the Russian ambassador.

I’ve just had a worrying thought.

We laugh at his misspelling of common words - such as the infamous “covfefe” and his eccentric use of CapiTALisation but what if these are messages to his handlers in Russia.

I recall in the Second World War broadcasters would broadcast apparently innocuous phrases and sentences which would be known to resistance fighters so they would know when to expect shipments and the like.

Perhaps Trump has been communicating state secrets under our noses all this time....

It’s certainly not as crazy as thinking an axed reality TV “star” could be elected to POTUS!

(For the humour imPaired - the above is called a joke.

turingtest · 5th January 2021, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Darat

I’ve just had a worrying thought.

We laugh at his misspelling of common words - such as the infamous “covfefe” and his eccentric use of CapiTALisation but what if these are messages to his handlers in Russia.

I recall in the Second World War broadcasters would broadcast apparently innocuous phrases and sentences which would be known to resistance fighters so they would know when to expect shipments and the like.

Perhaps Trump has been communicating state secrets under our noses all this time....

It’s certainly not as crazy as thinking an axed reality TV “star” could be elected to POTUS!

(For the humour imPaired - the above is called a joke.

I vaguely remember recently reading a story (or possibly seeing a TV episode/movie) about a Rip Van Winkle-ish character from the 1950's or 60's waking up in (or being transported to) the 1980's, and being told that Ronald Reagan was now the US President- he refused to believe it, thinking that he was being pranked- "what?! The actor!?!?!" Can you imagine someone from the 50's/60's being told that a reality-TV star had been elected President? First you'd have to explain "reality TV," then "trolling," before you could get to the 2016 election; by then, I would guess our time traveler would be saying "yeah, you know what? Cell phones are kind of neat, GPS in your car seems really handy, and the Internet is like magic- but I think I'd like to go back home now."

(Hell, I'm sort of a time traveler from the 60's, and even without the benefit of skipping the years, I feel that way sometimes)

Stacyhs · 5th January 2021, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by turingtest

I vaguely remember recently reading a story (or possibly seeing a TV episode/movie) about a Rip Van Winkle-ish character from the 1950's or 60's waking up in (or being transported to) the 1980's, and being told that Ronald Reagan was now the US President- he refused to believe it, thinking that he was being pranked- "what?! The actor!?!?!" Can you imagine someone from the 50's/60's being told that a reality-TV star had been elected President? First you'd have to explain "reality TV," then "trolling," before you could get to the 2016 election; by then, I would guess our time traveler would be saying "yeah, you know what? Cell phones are kind of neat, GPS in your car seems really handy, and the Internet is like magic- but I think I'd like to go back home now."

(Hell, I'm sort of a time traveler from the 60's, and even without the benefit of skipping the years, I feel that way sometimes)

I love the internet, but I think Twitter is one of the worst inventions ever created. That along with robocalls, rap, and open enrollment Medicare commercials.

a_unique_person · 5th January 2021, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

trump Tweets

I will be speaking at the SAVE AMERICA RALLY tomorrow on the Ellipse at 11AM Eastern. Arrive early — doors open at 7AM Eastern. BIG CROWDS!

Yawn.

turingtest · 5th January 2021, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

I love the internet, but I think Twitter is one of the worst inventions ever created. That along with robocalls, rap, and open enrollment Medicare commercials.

Those only really started to annoy me in the last couple of years. No idea why...

CapelDodger · 5th January 2021, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by a_unique_person

Yawn.

That might come back to bite you.

Norman Alexander · 5th January 2021, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

trump Tweets

I will be speaking at the SAVE AMERICA RALLY tomorrow on the Ellipse at 11AM Eastern. Arrive early — doors open at 7AM Eastern. BIG CROWDS!

Since the Ellipse is a public park with no doors, could he be referring to the doors on the cage where they keep him in the White House?

Also, small point: why mention that it is Eastern time? If you are not in Washington, the timezone is irrelevant. If you are and plan to attend...it's irrelevant!

gregthehammer · 5th January 2021, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Since the Ellipse is a public park with no doors, could he be referring to the doors on the cage where they keep him in the White House?

Also, small point: why mention that it is Eastern time? If you are not in Washington, the timezone is irrelevant. If you are and plan to attend...it's irrelevant!

Cuz he's nuts.

Dread Pirate Roberts · 5th January 2021, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by turingtest

I vaguely remember recently reading a story (or possibly seeing a TV episode/movie) about a Rip Van Winkle-ish character from the 1950's or 60's waking up in (or being transported to) the 1980's, and being told that Ronald Reagan was now the US President- he refused to believe it, thinking that he was being pranked- "what?! The actor!?!?!"

Sounds like Doc Brown in Back to the Future

Checkmite · 5th January 2021, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Darat

I’ve just had a worrying thought.

We laugh at his misspelling of common words - such as the infamous “covfefe” and his eccentric use of CapiTALisation but what if these are messages to his handlers in Russia.

Then he's probably vastly misspelling even the secret messages, to the point that Russia isn't even reading anymore.

timhau · 5th January 2021, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by turingtest

I vaguely remember recently reading a story (or possibly seeing a TV episode/movie) about a Rip Van Winkle-ish character from the 1950's or 60's waking up in (or being transported to) the 1980's, and being told that Ronald Reagan was now the US President- he refused to believe it, thinking that he was being pranked- "what?! The actor!?!?!" Can you imagine someone from the 50's/60's being told that a reality-TV star had been elected President? First you'd have to explain "reality TV," then "trolling," before you could get to the 2016 election; by then, I would guess our time traveler would be saying "yeah, you know what? Cell phones are kind of neat, GPS in your car seems really handy, and the Internet is like magic- but I think I'd like to go back home now."

Reagan was a former actor, but he was also a two-term governor of California before getting elected. Unlike Trump, he didn't turn a career in the entertainment industry into a presidency.

Ladewig · 6th January 2021, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Since the Ellipse is a public park with no doors, could he be referring to the doors on the cage where they keep him in the White House?

Also, small point: why mention that it is Eastern time? If you are not in Washington, the timezone is irrelevant. If you are and plan to attend...it's irrelevant!

People in other time zones may want to livestream it or watch to see if FoxNews is covering it.

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

People in other time zones may want to livestream it or watch to see if FoxNews is covering it.

Yeah...I'm gonna get up at 4 AM to watch that turd.

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

I’ve just had a worrying thought.

We laugh at his misspelling of common words - such as the infamous “covfefe” and his eccentric use of CapiTALisation but what if these are messages to his handlers in Russia.

I recall in the Second World War broadcasters would broadcast apparently innocuous phrases and sentences which would be known to resistance fighters so they would know when to expect shipments and the like.

Perhaps Trump has been communicating state secrets under our noses all this time....

It’s certainly not as crazy as thinking an axed reality TV “star” could be elected to POTUS!

(For the humour imPaired - the above is called a joke.

That plays a big role in the classic WW2 film "The Longest Day"

"John has a long mutache...John has a long mustache".

dudalb · 6th January 2021, 12:40 AM

Pence has told Trump he cannot block the election of Biden tommorow.
Watch the MAGARATS turn on Pence now....

timhau · 6th January 2021, 12:44 AM

Trump's term ends with him losing the election and the Republicans losing the senate. I wish both defeats would have been more decisive, but there you have it.

Segnosaur · 6th January 2021, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Pence has told Trump he cannot block the election of Biden tommorow.
Watch the MAGARATS turn on Pence now....

Hopefully that's true, as a reminder to all the other Trump bootlickers that getting involved with Trump is not a guarantee of long-lasting success; eventually everything Trump touches dies.

Segnosaur · 6th January 2021, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by timhau

Trump's term ends with him losing the election and the Republicans losing the senate. I wish both defeats would have been more decisive, but there you have it.

I do too.

But look at it this way... Normally the pattern is for an incumbent president to get re-elected.... Obama did, the Shrub did, Clinton did, Reagan did. (Granted Bush Sr. didn't, but he was a follow-up to Reagan.)

After 8 years of Obama, you would have expected at least 8 years of a republican president. The fact that Trump lost certainly breaks that pattern.

So, maybe doesn't make up for the 4 years of Trump corruption (and the previous decade of Moscow Mitch, and the tea-partiers). But, it is at least a bit of a silver lining.

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 01:35 AM

This is what Trump has brought us to:

Quote:

"In regards to the protests planned for January 6th, the violent rhetoric we're seeing online is at a new level," said Daniel J. Jones, president of Advance Democracy Inc., a global research organization that studies disinformation and extremism. "There are endorsements of violence across all of the platforms."

A new report from Advance Democracy chronicled a wide variety of posts about the protests, including many that anticipated violence from other groups and called for people to arm themselves.

On Twitter, QAnon-related accounts posted conspiracy theories alleging that Black Lives Matter and antifa activists were going to kill supporters of President Donald Trump at the protest and suggested that protesters arm themselves Wednesday, calling it "Independence Day."

On TikTok, several videos with hundreds of thousands of views promoted violence at the rally. A user with a militia-related avatar told viewers to carry guns even though firearms are prohibited in the areas of the city where the demonstrations are taking place.

"Take your ************* guns. That's the whole point of going," the person said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...rdF6X6SE5F-JHk

Aridas · 6th January 2021, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

This is what Trump has brought us to:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...rdF6X6SE5F-JHk

It's probably worth noting something again, in response to that.

Trump is a symptom. He is also a cause, but he wouldn't even be able to do that if it weren't for the long-lasting assault on the US by the Republicans.

This is on the Republican Party as a whole, not just Trump.

Stacyhs · 6th January 2021, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Aridas

It's probably worth noting something again, in response to that.

Trump is a symptom. He is also a cause, but he wouldn't even be able to do that if it weren't for the long-lasting assault on the US by the Republicans.

This is on the Republican Party as a whole, not just Trump.

Agreed. But it is Trump who brought it all together and set it afire.

sphenisc · 6th January 2021, 02:18 AM

NM

Darat · 6th January 2021, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by sphenisc

At worst he'd try it out to see if it works.

??

??

This is Trump - unless he was told it was the remote for his TV he’d tell someone else to try it!

Norman Alexander · 6th January 2021, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by Ladewig

People in other time zones may want to livestream it or watch to see if FoxNews is covering it.

True, but Diaper Don is wanting them to attend in person. He just luvs him some rally crowd!

alfaniner · 6th January 2021, 06:44 AM

(finally!)

Two weeks. TwO wEeKs?! Two weeeeeks!?!

Fast Eddie B · 6th January 2021, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by alfaniner

(finally!)

Two weeks. TwO wEeKs?! Two weeeeeks!?!

For perspective, just over one Scaramucci!

ponderingturtle · 6th January 2021, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by turingtest

I vaguely remember recently reading a story (or possibly seeing a TV episode/movie) about a Rip Van Winkle-ish character from the 1950's or 60's waking up in (or being transported to) the 1980's, and being told that Ronald Reagan was now the US President- he refused to believe it, thinking that he was being pranked- "what?! The actor!?!?!" Can you imagine someone from the 50's/60's being told that a reality-TV star had been elected President? First you'd have to explain "reality TV," then "trolling," before you could get to the 2016 election; by then, I would guess our time traveler would be saying "yeah, you know what? Cell phones are kind of neat, GPS in your car seems really handy, and the Internet is like magic- but I think I'd like to go back home now."

(Hell, I'm sort of a time traveler from the 60's, and even without the benefit of skipping the years, I feel that way sometimes)

That is kind of the plot of one of Spider Robinsons Callahan's stories. A missionary missed the entire 70's by being locked up in a central American prison.

slyjoe · 6th January 2021, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by ponderingturtle

That is kind of the plot of one of Spider Robinsons Callahan's stories. A missionary missed the entire 70's by being locked up in a central American prison.

Back to the Future (Marty McFly has returned to an early version of Dr. Brown):

Quote:

Dr Emmett Brown: “Then tell me, future boy, who’s President of the United States in 1985?”
Marty McFly (Michael J Fox): “Ronald Reagan.”
Dr Emmett Brown: “Ronald Reagan? The actor? Then who’s vice-president? Jerry Lewis?”

thaiboxerken · 6th January 2021, 07:52 AM

A few more days and the GOP will be like: "Trump who?"

The great forgetting will happen soon.

5th January 2021, 12:09 PM	#1
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,539	The Trump Presidency: Part 27 Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger That's an interesting thought. If Trump flies anywhere near the end of his term, how will the codes be brought back to DC on the 20th? It's not that interesting. Any staff, including military officers (like the one carrying the "football"), who would not remain with an ex-president would either go home on the former Air Force One or other military aircraft as soon as Biden is sworn in. If Trump decides to be such a pissy loser as to be out of DC on inauguration day and they still want to give Trump the traditional last ride on a presidential aircraft (assuming he's not already at his home), they'd probably send a backup aircraft for that specific purpose.

5th January 2021, 12:11 PM	#2
gnome Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 11,250	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Assuming they gave trump valid codes and a working "nuclear football". Maybe they were smart 4 years ago and realized how unstable and a security risk trump was and gave him fakes Sent from my LM-X320 using Tapatalk Why am I reminded of giving a small child a disconnected controller to mollify them?
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5th January 2021, 12:40 PM	#3
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 7,567	Taking a cue from Trump... GOP seizes control of Pa. Senate floor, blocks Brewster from being seated Quote: The Pennsylvania Senate devolved into chaos Tuesday as Republicans refused to seat Democrat Jim Brewster of McKeesport to his third term in office. The state certified Brewster as the winner of the Nov. 3 election in the 45th District, which includes parts of Allegheny and Westmoreland counties. His victory was set aside by Republican senators who claimed a pending federal lawsuit by his GOP challenger Nicole Ziccarelli was reason to delay his seating.
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5th January 2021, 01:27 PM	#5
Horatius NWO Kitty Wrangler Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 29,116	Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B Knowing Trump, as Commander-in-Chief, he’ll order the pilot of Air Force One to fly to Scotland, then land even without a clearance to do so. The confrontation on the tarmac could be worthy of pay-per-view. Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger That's an interesting thought. If Trump flies anywhere near the end of his term, how will the codes be brought back to DC on the 20th? On this question, there's an important issue to consider: it's well established that on a plane in flight, the pilot is the ultimate authority, regardless of the rank of anyone else who might be on that plane. Trump could very well order the pilot of AF1 to do something really stupid like land without authorization, or fly to Russia, but the pilot is under no obligation to actually follow that order. The pilot might face a court martial afterwards, but while in flight, Trump would be powerless. And I suspect a court martial would likely find that any such order was actually illegal, so the pilot would be off the hook.
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5th January 2021, 01:43 PM	#6
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,090	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Assuming they gave trump valid codes and a working "nuclear football". Maybe they were smart 4 years ago and realized how unstable and a security risk trump was and gave him fakes Sent from my LM-X320 using Tapatalk There’s no reason to give him fake codes. The code card consists of two columns of numbers. When the president is given the daily card, he is told something like, “the first half of today’s code will be the third entry from the first column and the second half will be the fourth entry from the second column.” These’s no way President Chucklehead could remember something like that.
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5th January 2021, 12:45 PM	#4
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 87,751	Originally Posted by Aridas Taking a cue from Trump... GOP seizes control of Pa. Senate floor, blocks Brewster from being seated I posted more about this in the Coup thread.

5th January 2021, 03:36 PM	#7
Captain_Swoop Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 32,627	trump Tweets I will be speaking at the SAVE AMERICA RALLY tomorrow on the Ellipse at 11AM Eastern. Arrive early — doors open at 7AM Eastern. BIG CROWDS!

5th January 2021, 03:45 PM	#8
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,320	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop trump Tweets I will be speaking at the SAVE AMERICA RALLY tomorrow on the Ellipse at 11AM Eastern. Arrive early — doors open at 7AM Eastern. BIG CROWDS! Just what America needs... Despite the fact that the election result is decided and it won't help Trump or the republicans (and its too late to help with any run-off elections), Trump is going to have another covid super-spreader event.
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5th January 2021, 04:00 PM	#9
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,713	Originally Posted by Ladewig There’s no reason to give him fake codes. The code card consists of two columns of numbers. When the president is given the daily card, he is told something like, “the first half of today’s code will be the third entry from the first column and the second half will be the fourth entry from the second column.” These’s no way President Chucklehead could remember something like that. He’d at best circle the code with his sharpie. At worse post it on Twitter.
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5th January 2021, 04:02 PM	#10
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,539	Originally Posted by Darat He’d at best circle the code with his sharpie. At worse post it on Twitter. Don't be ridiculous. He'd give it to the Russian ambassador.

5th January 2021, 04:08 PM	#11
Dave Rogers Bandaged ice that stampedes inexpensively through a scribbled morning waving necessary ankles Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cair Paravel, according to XKCD Posts: 32,412	Originally Posted by Darat He’d at best circle the code with his sharpie. At worse post it on Twitter. Or change it to MAGA2020. Dave
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5th January 2021, 04:45 PM	#12
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,713	Originally Posted by Babbylonian Don't be ridiculous. He'd give it to the Russian ambassador. I’ve just had a worrying thought. We laugh at his misspelling of common words - such as the infamous “covfefe” and his eccentric use of CapiTALisation but what if these are messages to his handlers in Russia. I recall in the Second World War broadcasters would broadcast apparently innocuous phrases and sentences which would be known to resistance fighters so they would know when to expect shipments and the like. Perhaps Trump has been communicating state secrets under our noses all this time.... It’s certainly not as crazy as thinking an axed reality TV “star” could be elected to POTUS! (For the humour imPaired - the above is called a joke.
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5th January 2021, 05:18 PM	#13
turingtest Mistral, mistral wind... Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Embedded and embattled, reporting from Mississippi Posts: 4,733	Originally Posted by Darat I’ve just had a worrying thought. We laugh at his misspelling of common words - such as the infamous “covfefe” and his eccentric use of CapiTALisation but what if these are messages to his handlers in Russia. I recall in the Second World War broadcasters would broadcast apparently innocuous phrases and sentences which would be known to resistance fighters so they would know when to expect shipments and the like. Perhaps Trump has been communicating state secrets under our noses all this time.... It’s certainly not as crazy as thinking an axed reality TV “star” could be elected to POTUS! (For the humour imPaired - the above is called a joke. I vaguely remember recently reading a story (or possibly seeing a TV episode/movie) about a Rip Van Winkle-ish character from the 1950's or 60's waking up in (or being transported to) the 1980's, and being told that Ronald Reagan was now the US President- he refused to believe it, thinking that he was being pranked- "what?! The actor!?!?!" Can you imagine someone from the 50's/60's being told that a reality-TV star had been elected President? First you'd have to explain "reality TV," then "trolling," before you could get to the 2016 election; by then, I would guess our time traveler would be saying "yeah, you know what? Cell phones are kind of neat, GPS in your car seems really handy, and the Internet is like magic- but I think I'd like to go back home now." (Hell, I'm sort of a time traveler from the 60's, and even without the benefit of skipping the years, I feel that way sometimes)
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5th January 2021, 05:45 PM	#14
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,202	Originally Posted by turingtest I vaguely remember recently reading a story (or possibly seeing a TV episode/movie) about a Rip Van Winkle-ish character from the 1950's or 60's waking up in (or being transported to) the 1980's, and being told that Ronald Reagan was now the US President- he refused to believe it, thinking that he was being pranked- "what?! The actor!?!?!" Can you imagine someone from the 50's/60's being told that a reality-TV star had been elected President? First you'd have to explain "reality TV," then "trolling," before you could get to the 2016 election; by then, I would guess our time traveler would be saying "yeah, you know what? Cell phones are kind of neat, GPS in your car seems really handy, and the Internet is like magic- but I think I'd like to go back home now." (Hell, I'm sort of a time traveler from the 60's, and even without the benefit of skipping the years, I feel that way sometimes) I love the internet, but I think Twitter is one of the worst inventions ever created. That along with robocalls, rap, and open enrollment Medicare commercials.

5th January 2021, 06:33 PM	#15
a_unique_person Director of Hatcheries and Conditioning Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Waiting for the pod bay door to open. Posts: 43,077	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop trump Tweets I will be speaking at the SAVE AMERICA RALLY tomorrow on the Ellipse at 11AM Eastern. Arrive early — doors open at 7AM Eastern. BIG CROWDS! Yawn.
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5th January 2021, 07:08 PM	#16
turingtest Mistral, mistral wind... Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Embedded and embattled, reporting from Mississippi Posts: 4,733	Originally Posted by Stacyhs I love the internet, but I think Twitter is one of the worst inventions ever created. That along with robocalls, rap, and open enrollment Medicare commercials. Those only really started to annoy me in the last couple of years. No idea why...
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5th January 2021, 07:20 PM	#17
CapelDodger Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cardiff, South Wales Posts: 25,063	Originally Posted by a_unique_person Yawn. That might come back to bite you.
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5th January 2021, 10:25 PM	#18
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,125	Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop trump Tweets I will be speaking at the SAVE AMERICA RALLY tomorrow on the Ellipse at 11AM Eastern. Arrive early — doors open at 7AM Eastern. BIG CROWDS! Since the Ellipse is a public park with no doors, could he be referring to the doors on the cage where they keep him in the White House? Also, small point: why mention that it is Eastern time? If you are not in Washington, the timezone is irrelevant. If you are and plan to attend...it's irrelevant!
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5th January 2021, 10:33 PM	#19
gregthehammer Muse Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 724	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Since the Ellipse is a public park with no doors, could he be referring to the doors on the cage where they keep him in the White House? Also, small point: why mention that it is Eastern time? If you are not in Washington, the timezone is irrelevant. If you are and plan to attend...it's irrelevant! Cuz he's nuts.
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5th January 2021, 10:41 PM	#20
Dread Pirate Roberts Thinker Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 205	Originally Posted by turingtest I vaguely remember recently reading a story (or possibly seeing a TV episode/movie) about a Rip Van Winkle-ish character from the 1950's or 60's waking up in (or being transported to) the 1980's, and being told that Ronald Reagan was now the US President- he refused to believe it, thinking that he was being pranked- "what?! The actor!?!?!" Sounds like Doc Brown in Back to the Future

5th January 2021, 10:54 PM	#21
Checkmite Skepticifimisticalationist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 26,532	Originally Posted by Darat I’ve just had a worrying thought. We laugh at his misspelling of common words - such as the infamous “covfefe” and his eccentric use of CapiTALisation but what if these are messages to his handlers in Russia. Then he's probably vastly misspelling even the secret messages, to the point that Russia isn't even reading anymore.
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5th January 2021, 10:54 PM	#22
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,508	Originally Posted by turingtest I vaguely remember recently reading a story (or possibly seeing a TV episode/movie) about a Rip Van Winkle-ish character from the 1950's or 60's waking up in (or being transported to) the 1980's, and being told that Ronald Reagan was now the US President- he refused to believe it, thinking that he was being pranked- "what?! The actor!?!?!" Can you imagine someone from the 50's/60's being told that a reality-TV star had been elected President? First you'd have to explain "reality TV," then "trolling," before you could get to the 2016 election; by then, I would guess our time traveler would be saying "yeah, you know what? Cell phones are kind of neat, GPS in your car seems really handy, and the Internet is like magic- but I think I'd like to go back home now." Reagan was a former actor, but he was also a two-term governor of California before getting elected. Unlike Trump, he didn't turn a career in the entertainment industry into a presidency.
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6th January 2021, 12:18 AM	#23
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,090	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Since the Ellipse is a public park with no doors, could he be referring to the doors on the cage where they keep him in the White House? Also, small point: why mention that it is Eastern time? If you are not in Washington, the timezone is irrelevant. If you are and plan to attend...it's irrelevant! People in other time zones may want to livestream it or watch to see if FoxNews is covering it.
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6th January 2021, 12:23 AM	#24
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,202	Originally Posted by Ladewig People in other time zones may want to livestream it or watch to see if FoxNews is covering it. Yeah...I'm gonna get up at 4 AM to watch that turd.

6th January 2021, 12:25 AM	#25
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,447	Originally Posted by Darat I’ve just had a worrying thought. We laugh at his misspelling of common words - such as the infamous “covfefe” and his eccentric use of CapiTALisation but what if these are messages to his handlers in Russia. I recall in the Second World War broadcasters would broadcast apparently innocuous phrases and sentences which would be known to resistance fighters so they would know when to expect shipments and the like. Perhaps Trump has been communicating state secrets under our noses all this time.... It’s certainly not as crazy as thinking an axed reality TV “star” could be elected to POTUS! (For the humour imPaired - the above is called a joke. That plays a big role in the classic WW2 film "The Longest Day" "John has a long mutache...John has a long mustache".
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6th January 2021, 12:40 AM	#26
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,447	Pence has told Trump he cannot block the election of Biden tommorow. Watch the MAGARATS turn on Pence now....
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6th January 2021, 12:44 AM	#27
timhau NWO Litter Technician Join Date: May 2004 Location: Looks like Finland. Smells like Finland. Quacks like Finland. Where the hell am I? Posts: 14,508	Trump's term ends with him losing the election and the Republicans losing the senate. I wish both defeats would have been more decisive, but there you have it.
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6th January 2021, 12:45 AM	#28
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,320	Originally Posted by dudalb Pence has told Trump he cannot block the election of Biden tommorow. Watch the MAGARATS turn on Pence now.... Hopefully that's true, as a reminder to all the other Trump bootlickers that getting involved with Trump is not a guarantee of long-lasting success; eventually everything Trump touches dies.
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6th January 2021, 12:51 AM	#29
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,320	Originally Posted by timhau Trump's term ends with him losing the election and the Republicans losing the senate. I wish both defeats would have been more decisive, but there you have it. I do too. But look at it this way... Normally the pattern is for an incumbent president to get re-elected.... Obama did, the Shrub did, Clinton did, Reagan did. (Granted Bush Sr. didn't, but he was a follow-up to Reagan.) After 8 years of Obama, you would have expected at least 8 years of a republican president. The fact that Trump lost certainly breaks that pattern. So, maybe doesn't make up for the 4 years of Trump corruption (and the previous decade of Moscow Mitch, and the tea-partiers). But, it is at least a bit of a silver lining.
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6th January 2021, 01:35 AM	#30
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,202	This is what Trump has brought us to: Quote: "In regards to the protests planned for January 6th, the violent rhetoric we're seeing online is at a new level," said Daniel J. Jones, president of Advance Democracy Inc., a global research organization that studies disinformation and extremism. "There are endorsements of violence across all of the platforms." A new report from Advance Democracy chronicled a wide variety of posts about the protests, including many that anticipated violence from other groups and called for people to arm themselves. On Twitter, QAnon-related accounts posted conspiracy theories alleging that Black Lives Matter and antifa activists were going to kill supporters of President Donald Trump at the protest and suggested that protesters arm themselves Wednesday, calling it "Independence Day." On TikTok, several videos with hundreds of thousands of views promoted violence at the rally. A user with a militia-related avatar told viewers to carry guns even though firearms are prohibited in the areas of the city where the demonstrations are taking place. "Take your ************* guns. That's the whole point of going," the person said. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...rdF6X6SE5F-JHk
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6th January 2021, 01:44 AM	#31
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 7,567	Originally Posted by Stacyhs This is what Trump has brought us to: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...rdF6X6SE5F-JHk It's probably worth noting something again, in response to that. Trump is a symptom. He is also a cause, but he wouldn't even be able to do that if it weren't for the long-lasting assault on the US by the Republicans. This is on the Republican Party as a whole, not just Trump.
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6th January 2021, 01:58 AM	#32
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,202	Originally Posted by Aridas It's probably worth noting something again, in response to that. Trump is a symptom. He is also a cause, but he wouldn't even be able to do that if it weren't for the long-lasting assault on the US by the Republicans. This is on the Republican Party as a whole, not just Trump. Agreed. But it is Trump who brought it all together and set it afire.

6th January 2021, 02:18 AM	#33
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6th January 2021, 02:22 AM	#34
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 97,713	Originally Posted by sphenisc At worst he'd try it out to see if it works. ?? ?? This is Trump - unless he was told it was the remote for his TV he’d tell someone else to try it!
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6th January 2021, 04:52 AM	#35
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,125	Originally Posted by Ladewig People in other time zones may want to livestream it or watch to see if FoxNews is covering it. True, but Diaper Don is wanting them to attend in person. He just luvs him some rally crowd!
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