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Old 1st June 2020, 09:10 AM   #321
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
Only if they let him.

Frankly, there a few people I avoid and refuse to engage with because they are more interested in confrontation than good faith discussion.
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Old 1st June 2020, 09:40 AM   #322
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Biden has to pick a Veep with strong national presence, a lack of major issues in their political past, a commitment to the black agenda (as Al Sharpton pointed out) and the kind of charisma he lacks.

He almost has to pick a woman with African-American heritage, I think. Of the top candidates, I think Kamala Harris is the only one who has the national presence, a great record, charisma and a commitment to not only the "black agenda" but LGBTQ issues as well. She also has a record of working towards more bi-partisanship. She'd also be a great 2024/28 candidate in her own right.

So what's wrong with her? I haven't seen her mentioned in the more recent convos about VP picks.
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Old 1st June 2020, 09:47 AM   #323
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Originally Posted by xjx388 View Post
So what's wrong with her? I haven't seen her mentioned in the more recent convos about VP picks.
Progressives put her on an ice flow because when she was a Prosecutor should made the unforgivable sin of prosecuting people.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Progressives put her on an ice flow because when she was a Prosecutor should made the unforgivable sin of prosecuting people.
That's crazy. She could appeal to a wider demographic than someone like Abrams. I would vote without hesitation for a Biden/Harris ticket.
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God damn Joe, this ain't it.

In interview about police oversight:

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Biden said "there are a lot of different things that can change" about police training. One example he said was if cops rushed by unarmed person, they could "shoot them in the leg instead of the heart is a very different thing."
Killer cops, shoot to maim unarmed people instead. Neato.

https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/stat...88711375228929
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
God damn Joe, this ain't it.

In interview about police oversight:



Killer cops, shoot to maim unarmed people instead. Neato.

https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/stat...88711375228929
Wow. That's pretty boneheaded. Let's aim for a harder to hit target and perhaps hit bystanders! How about we just don't shoot unarmed people? Training should focus on better assessment and descalation, not "well if you are gonna shoot someone, shoot their legs!"
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Originally Posted by xjx388 View Post
That's crazy. She could appeal to a wider demographic than someone like Abrams. I would vote without hesitation for a Biden/Harris ticket.
Most the chatter is still treating Biden/Harris as the most likely ticket.

And if I'm being a purely cynical "Moneyball, run the numbers, show me the graphs" guy about it young, female, black but not too black, Californian Kamala Harris is the perfect counter to Uncle Joe.

But Trump has broken the system so much making any prediction scares me.
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Old 1st June 2020, 10:25 AM   #328
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"Shotgun Joe" Rides Again

Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
God damn Joe, this ain't it.

In interview about police oversight:



Killer cops, shoot to maim unarmed people instead. Neato.

https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/stat...88711375228929

From the same fella' who said that the only home defense gun you need is an old double barrel shotgun. Just step out on the balcony and fire a couple of shots in the air. If the bad guys try to break in, shoot them through the door.

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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
God damn Joe, this ain't it.

In interview about police oversight:



Killer cops, shoot to maim unarmed people instead. Neato.

https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/stat...88711375228929
Well, that's the issue with Biden. He's not really bright. He really only has one good quality. He's not Trump. It's best US can offer now it seems.
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Old 1st June 2020, 10:41 AM   #330
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Biden has to pick a Veep with strong national presence, a lack of major issues in their political past, a commitment to the black agenda (as Al Sharpton pointed out) and the kind of charisma he lacks.

He almost has to pick a woman with African-American heritage, I think. Of the top candidates, I think Kamala Harris is the only one who has the national presence, a great record, charisma and a commitment to not only the "black agenda" but LGBTQ issues as well. She also has a record of working towards more bi-partisanship. She'd also be a great 2024/28 candidate in her own right.

So what's wrong with her? I haven't seen her mentioned in the more recent convos about VP picks.
Another downside is that she's from California, a state Biden will carry anyway, no matter what. However, it's not clear how much a VP from a state you want to take away from the other side is necessary.
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Well, that's the issue with Biden. He's not really bright.
Fortunately ( or unfortunately), this is considered a great quality in the eyes of the typical conservative. Educated and bright people are too elite and snobby.
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Fortunately ( or unfortunately), this is considered a great quality in the eyes of the typical conservative. Educated and bright people are too elite and snobby.
Hmm .. good point. Dems need people from Trump camp, and 'sleepy Joe' might do it lot better then second Obama.
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Originally Posted by xjx388 View Post
That's crazy.
Of course it is. And yet, that's still what happened.
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From the same fella' who said that the only home defense gun you need is an old double barrel shotgun. Just step out on the balcony and fire a couple of shots in the air. If the bad guys try to break in, shoot them through the door.
That was taken out of context which was a wider discussion about AR 15's.

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In December 2018, a pro-gun rights Facebook page posted a meme that showed former U.S. vice president Joe Biden advocating the use of a shotgun over a semi-automatic rifle for the purpose of self-defense.
On 18 December, “Firearms Policy Coalition” posted the meme, which contained a photograph of Biden along with the quotation: “Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because if you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door.”


This is an authentic quotation, although the meme didn’t present the full context in which Biden made those remarks. They were part of a broader argument against the usefulness and necessity of the AR-15 rifle for personal protection.

In February 2013, Biden gave an interview to Field & Stream magazine on the subject of gun violence and gun control. He was asked about the regulation of the very popular AR-15 semi-automatic rifle and its uses in hunting, self-defense, and target practice. Biden played down the use of such a weapon in hunting, saying: “If you have to go up into the Poconos and go bear hunting or deer hunting with that weapon, and you need a clip that has 30 rounds in it, then you shouldn’t be hunting. You’re a danger to yourself. If you can’t get the bear or the deer in four or five shots, you’ve got a problem.”
When the interviewer asked “What about the other uses, for self-defense and target practice?”, the Vice President responded as follows:

Well, the way in which we measure it is — I think most scholars would say — is that as long as you have a weapon sufficient to be able to provide your self-defense. I did one of these town-hall meetings on the Internet and one guy said, “Well, what happens when the end days come? What happens when there’s the earthquake? I live in California, and I have to protect myself.”
I said, “Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because [if] you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door.” Most people can handle a shotgun a hell of a lot better than they can a semiautomatic weapon in terms of both their aim and in terms of their ability to deter people coming.
We can argue whether that’s true or not, but it is no argument that, for example, a shotgun could do the same job of protecting you. Now, granted, you can come back and say, “Well, a machine gun could do a better job of protecting me.” No one’s arguing we should make machine guns legal.
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Fortunately ( or unfortunately), this is considered a great quality in the eyes of the typical conservative. Educated and bright people are too elite and snobby.

We should never forget that numerous Trumpers were quoted as saying things like "He talks like a regular guy," and they didn't think much beyond that. A lot of Americans don't value smarts, and they vote.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...democracy.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e-precautions/

I think Biden is smarter than he has appeared in some public utterances, but he's not so smugly academic that the working class will feel intimidated.

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I think Biden is smarter than he has appeared in some public utterances, but he's not so smugly academic that the working class will feel intimidated.
Well certainly he only has to look smarter than Trump, to appeal to smart voters, and that's not that hard.
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Well certainly he only has to look smarter than Trump, to appeal to smart voters, and that's not that hard.
Assuming this is serious, three things:

One, the voters in question can't be that smart, if they can't tell the difference between looking smart and being smart.

Two, smart people can still disagree on the best solution. Being smart alone does not guarantee appeal.

Three, there are ideological factors to consider. For a conservative voter, a dumb conservative or even a dumb RINO is might be better than a smart progressive.
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Progressives put her on an ice flow because when she was a Prosecutor should made the unforgivable sin of prosecuting people.
I don't think that's accurate.

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Of course it is. And yet, that's still what happened.
No, that's not what happened. Or is it as I expect: You only care about (alleged) prosecutor malfeasance when a Trumpling is on the other end?

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Time after time, when progressives urged her to embrace criminal justice reforms as a district attorney and then the state’s attorney general, Ms. Harris opposed them or stayed silent. Most troubling, Ms. Harris fought tooth and nail to uphold wrongful convictions that had been secured through official misconduct that included evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors.

Consider her record as San Francisco’s district attorney from 2004 to 2011. Ms. Harris was criticized in 2010 for withholding information about a police laboratory technician who had been accused of “intentionally sabotaging” her work and stealing drugs from the lab. After a memo surfaced showing that Ms. Harris’s deputies knew about the technician’s wrongdoing and recent conviction, but failed to alert defense lawyers, a judge condemned Ms. Harris’s indifference to the systemic violation of the defendants’ constitutional rights.

Ms. Harris contested the ruling by arguing that the judge, whose husband was a defense attorney and had spoken publicly about the importance of disclosing evidence, had a conflict of interest. Ms. Harris lost. More than 600 cases handled by the corrupt technician were dismissed.
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Worst of all, though, is Ms. Harris’s record in wrongful conviction cases. Consider George Gage, an electrician with no criminal record who was charged in 1999 with sexually abusing his stepdaughter, who reported the allegations years later. The case largely hinged on the stepdaughter’s testimony and Mr. Gage was convicted.


Afterward, the judge discovered that the prosecutor had unlawfully held back potentially exculpatory evidence, including medical reports indicating that the stepdaughter had been repeatedly untruthful with law enforcement. Her mother even described her as “a pathological liar” who “lives her lies.”

In 2015, when the case reached the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco, Ms. Harris’s prosecutors defended the conviction. They pointed out that Mr. Gage, while forced to act as his own lawyer, had not properly raised the legal issue in the lower court, as the law required.

The appellate judges acknowledged this impediment and sent the case to mediation, a clear signal for Ms. Harris to dismiss the case. When she refused to budge, the court upheld the conviction on that technicality. Mr. Gage is still in prison serving a 70-year sentence.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/o...l-justice.html
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I don't think that's accurate.
True; it's actually spelled "floe".
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I don't think that's accurate.
It's a caricature of progressives' position on law and order. That's all that matters.
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True; it's actually spelled "floe".

Irrelevant.

Do you have anything of actual value to contribute?
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Hmmm....that's an 'interesting' take of our conversation. Not accurate [...]
You literally said it was usual for politicians to appear on The View. Not once, but twice:

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She appeared on The View in February and April as is usual for politicians.
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Absolutely it's usual for politicians to appear on The View during election season.
This in the context of me asking what made Abrams notable; i.e., unusual.
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Irrelevant.

Do you have anything of actual value to contribute?


...followed by....

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You literally said it was usual for politicians to appear on The View. Not once, but twice:





This in the context of me asking what made Abrams notable; i.e., unusual.

Which does answer my question. More complete misrepresentation and irrelevance. Thank you for making that clear!
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Progressives put her on an ice flow because when she was a Prosecutor should made the unforgivable sin of prosecuting people.

The question is whether she prosecuted the right people in the right ways for the right reasons. She appears to have a mixed record.
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Time after time, when progressives urged her to embrace criminal justice reforms as a district attorney and then the state’s attorney general, Ms. Harris opposed them or stayed silent. Most troubling, Ms. Harris fought tooth and nail to uphold wrongful convictions that had been secured through official misconduct that included evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/o...l-justice.html

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In 2005, the sharp-elbowed, ambitious district attorney of San Francisco had the opportunity to correct an all-too-common prosecutorial violation of duty that the leading expert on prosecutorial misconduct found “accounts for more miscarriages of justice than any other type of malpractice.” Rather than seize the opportunity, she did nothing.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...san-francisco/

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A close examination of Harris’s record shows it’s filled with contradictions. She pushed for programs that helped people find jobs instead of putting them in prison, but also fought to keep people in prison even after they were proved innocent. She refused to pursue the death penalty against a man who killed a police officer, but also defended California’s death penalty system in court. She implemented training programs to address police officers’ racial biases, but also resisted calls to get her office to investigate certain police shootings.
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2...justice-record

You find a couple innocent people that she sent to prison and kept there, and that's pretty much the end of her campaign.
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You literally said it was usual for politicians to appear on The View. Not once, but twice:

This in the context of me asking what made Abrams notable; i.e., unusual.
Yes, I did say that, but not in the context you are claiming. You never asked what made Abrams notable/unusual.

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#298 You:

If I were a betting person, I'd bet avatars that only notable politicians appear on the show, and that they are a minority and therefore unusual.

I'm sure it's usual for The View to have politicans on the show, even if they don't bring on all of them.
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It would be impossible to bring ALL politicians onto the show and usually the candidates for the higher national positions appear. But if an interesting/unusual state race is occurring, candidates can appear, too.

How you see that as unusual, I don't understand. People aren't interested in hearing what Joe Blow from Wyoming has to say. Except people in Wyoming
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I think it's perfectly usual for a TV show to bring on politicians who are unusually interesting in that election season. I just wouldn't describe it as being usual for politicians to appear on the show.
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LOL. I just realized:

ME: What makes Abrams unusual?

STACY: She appeared on The View, which isn't unusual.

ME: Really? It seems like it would be unusual.

STACY: Actually it is unusual.
Please point out exactly where you asked what made Abrams notable/usual.

Please point out exactly where I said Abrams appearing on The View was unusual.
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I don't think that's accurate.



No, that's not what happened. Or is it as I expect: You only care about (alleged) prosecutor malfeasance when a Trumpling is on the other end?

A sampling



and



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/o...l-justice.html

Sounds like the system working as it is designed. Hate the game, not the player. Besides, that might actually appeal to some voters. I mean if that’s the worst there is about her, it isn’t horrible, relatively speaking.

Abrams’ tax issues OTOH, might be an issue for some people, along with her relative lack of experience. Although, for the record, I’d love to see someone like her in the VP spot -I just don’t think she would attract many voters from the “I’m a conservative and I’m just looking for a reason to dump Trump,” side of the spectrum.

Klobuchar is pretty much out with her history with Chauvin (real or fabricated because it can be spun; her nomination could alienate black voters in any case). Demings has even worse issues with her LE background. Nobody else that meets the criteria I came up with really has the national clout to help the ticket much.

I can see a lot of support for a Biden/Warren ticket but I’m not sure how that would play with the black vote, which is important -I think- this election cycle.

I really wish Biden hadn’t said so early that he would nominate a woman. There are plenty of male candidates that might fit the bill. Kinda painted himself in a corner there and I think Harris is the one who can lift him out of that corner.
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Sounds like the system working as it is designed.
It's designed to incriminate people on flimsy evidence???? OK, admittedly, you may be right, that does not imply we should condone anyone playing the game with that intention.

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Hate the game, not the player.

As I just said, I strongly disagree with this. Why shouldn't I hate the player, when the player is engaging in activities that lead to imprisonment of people on flimsy evidence? When/If the game is corrupt, the only players I respect are the ones trying to change the rules to be more just. Do you disagree?

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Besides, that might actually appeal to some voters. I mean if that’s the worst there is about her, it isn’t horrible, relatively speaking.
The voters that might appeal to are probably dedicated Trumpers to begin with. And while I acknowledge that the Republican party that you generally prefer has made a commitment to pandering to baser instincts (such as the one you were just referencing), I don't think that is something to strive for. I think it is something to avoid. I expect you to disagree.
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Yesterday, Joe Biden visited the site of the protests in Wilmington, DE.

He tweeted:
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"We are a nation in pain right now, but we must not allow this pain to destroy us. As President, I will help lead this conversation — and more importantly, I will listen, just as I did today visiting the site of last night's protests in Wilmington."
What did Trump do besides hide in his bunker and then send the military against American citizens, including a peaceful protest? Why he tweets attacking mayors and governors for being "weak" and tells them they must "dominate". He says he'll send in the National Guard (which he cannot do without a request from the governors) and attack political opponents.

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Old 1st June 2020, 10:16 PM   #349
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No, that's not what happened. Or is it as I expect: You only care about (alleged) prosecutor malfeasance when a Trumpling is on the other end?
My statement had nothing to do with what I care about. It was purely observational, and there was nothing in it about malfeasance either. If you think JoeMorgue is wrong, it's strange that you don't take it up directly with him.
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Old 1st June 2020, 11:06 PM   #350
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
My statement had nothing to do with what I care about. It was purely observational, and there was nothing in it about malfeasance either. If you think JoeMorgue is wrong, it's strange that you don't take it up directly with him.
If it was purely observational, then you are a piss poor observer, because what you observed is not at all accurate. And I did take it up with JoeMorgue--You may have noticed that I was responding to both of you...Then again, maybe you didn't actually notice this (considering the previously referenced piss poor observational skills, after all).
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My statement had nothing to do with what I care about. It was purely observational, and there was nothing in it about malfeasance either. If you think JoeMorgue is wrong, it's strange that you don't take it up directly with him.

I also forgot to mention: Your previous statement concerning Harris is also inconsistent with what you (pretend?) to care about in the Flynn thread: Prosecutorial malfeasance. In that thread you're all uptight about (alleged) malfeasance, yet you claim that progressives holding malfeasance against Harris is (and I am quoting here): "Crazy".

Can you explain your inconsistency? Is it merely attributed to poor observational skills/ignorance of Harris' history as a prosecutor?
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Abrams’ tax issues OTOH, might be an issue for some people, along with her relative lack of experience. Although, for the record, I’d love to see someone like her in the VP spot -I just don’t think she would attract many voters from the “I’m a conservative and I’m just looking for a reason to dump Trump,” side of the spectrum.
Given his age, Biden needs someone who could plausibly replace him. I don't see Abrams as that person.

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Klobuchar is pretty much out with her history with Chauvin (real or fabricated because it can be spun; her nomination could alienate black voters in any case). Demings has even worse issues with her LE background. Nobody else that meets the criteria I came up with really has the national clout to help the ticket much.
She can thank the Minneapolis Police for ending her hopes.

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I really wish Biden hadn’t said so early that he would nominate a woman. There are plenty of male candidates that might fit the bill. Kinda painted himself in a corner there and I think Harris is the one who can lift him out of that corner.
I don't know much about Val Demings. She would present something for more than 1 voting bloc, being both black and a former police chief.
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Old 2nd June 2020, 07:41 AM   #353
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Please point out exactly where you asked what made Abrams notable/usual.
I didn't ask what made her usual. I asked what made her unusual. Specifically:
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What did she doing the last election, to garner national news coverage?
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Please point out exactly where I said Abrams appearing on The View was unusual.
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Well. First you said that appearing on The View was usual for politicians:
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She appeared on The View in February and April as is usual for politicians.
Later you said that it was unusual for a state candidate to appear on The View, but also said it was usual:
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It would be impossible to bring ALL politicians onto the show and usually the candidates for the higher national positions appear. But if an interesting/unusual state race is occurring, candidates can appear, too.



How you see that as unusual, I don't understand. People aren't interested in hearing what Joe Blow from Wyoming has to say. Except people in Wyoming
Anyway, my question was, what had she done to garner national news coverage. Your answer was that she appeared on The View.

She got on the news because of her View appearance? That doesn't make sense. It doesn't even answer the question. After going round a bit, you finally explain that she appeared on The View because of the unusual circumstances of her state political campaign. Which does make sense, and does answer the question. I'm not sure why you didn't just say that to begin with. Or just stick with "Google it".

I apologize for frustrating you. I was having a hard time following your train of thought from a politician getting news coverage to what they did to get news coverage.

Though I did get a better idea how you view Abrams, which is why I asked instead of just googling. So all's well that ends well.
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I also forgot to mention: Your previous statement concerning Harris is also inconsistent with what you (pretend?) to care about in the Flynn thread: Prosecutorial malfeasance. In that thread you're all uptight about (alleged) malfeasance, yet you claim that progressives holding malfeasance against Harris is (and I am quoting here): "Crazy".
You clearly aren't quoting, because neither I nor Joe said anything about malfeasance. And given that I just pointed that out in the very post you quoted, repeating the claim makes this a lie.
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Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
You clearly aren't quoting, because neither I nor Joe said anything about malfeasance. And given that I just pointed that out in the very post you quoted, repeating the claim makes this a lie.

Ahem:

In responding to JoeMorgue's post:


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Progressives put her on an ice flow because when she was a Prosecutor should made the unforgivable sin of prosecuting people.

xjx responded:

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That's crazy.

and you concurred:

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Of course it is.

QED

Perhaps what you really should be doing is retracting this part of your response:

Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
And yet, that's still what happened.
(referring to JoeMorgue's original mischaracterization).

Yes, I agree that, were JoeMorgue's characterization accurate, the progressive response would indeed be crazy. I'll try and be fair here: If you were honestly ignorant of Harris's history as a prosecutor, I'll give you a pass on calling Joe's characterization "Crazy".

Now that you are aware of the mischaracterization, do you retract your claim of "Crazy"?

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Originally Posted by Cabbage View Post
Ahem:

In responding to JoeMorgue's post:





xjx responded:




and you concurred:




QED
Do you not understand the difference between insanity on the part of progressives and prosecutorial malfeasance on the part of Harris?

QED indeed.
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God damn Joe, this ain't it.

In interview about police oversight:



Killer cops, shoot to maim unarmed people instead. Neato.

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I'm not sure that one can be topped.
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Do you not understand the difference between insanity on the part of progressives and prosecutorial malfeasance on the part of Harris?

QED indeed.
Did you miss the addendum I added in edit?

I await clarification of whatever point you seem to think you've made.
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I didn't ask what made her usual. I asked what made her unusual. Specifically:
Oh, for God's sake. I forgot the "UN" in front of usual at the bottom. Even you could figure out that was a typo from the rest of my post.



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Well. First you said that appearing on The View was usual for politicians:
Yes, I did because it's true.


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Later you said that it was unusual for a state candidate to appear on The View, but also said it was usual:
This is where you go wrong. I never said it was unusual for a state candidate to appear:
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It would be impossible to bring ALL politicians onto the show and usually the candidates for the higher national positions appear. But if an interesting/unusual state race is occurring, candidates can appear, too.
You are conflating an "interesting/unusual state race" with it being unusual for a state candidate to appear. Something being 'usual' does not make anything else 'unusual': it just means it happens more frequently. An 'unusual' race doesn't mean it's rare or infrequent. It just means there is something about it out of the ordinary or something that makes it different which makes it interesting to the nation, just not the state. There could be several within an election period and then they may appear on The View. Nowhere did I say that a state politician being on The View is unusual.

I hope that clears it up for you.


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Anyway, my question was, what had she done to garner national news coverage. Your answer was that she appeared on The View.
She got on the news because of her View appearance? That doesn't make sense. It doesn't even answer the question.
Apparently I need to remind you that you didn't actually ask "what had she done to garner national news coverage". Your wording was very unclear so we had this exchange:

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Your question wasn't really clear that it was the last election you were asking about:
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Guilty as charged. What did she doing the last election, to garner national news coverage?
I inferred you were really asking "What did she do since the last election..."
Which is why I first answered your question with this:

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She appeared on The View in February and April as is usual for politicians. She appeared alongside Biden on a televised townhall on May 14.
She addressed the Reade allegations on Seat At the Table on May 12. She was very recently interviewed by TIME magazine. Would you like more?
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After going round a bit, you finally explain that she appeared on The View because of the unusual circumstances of her state political campaign. Which does make sense, and does answer the question. I'm not sure why you didn't just say that to begin with. Or just stick with "Google it".
We "went round a bit" because your question wasn't clear and we had to work that out as shown above. I "finally answered it ", as you put it, once we had worked out YOUR confusingly worded question. I would have answered it "to begin with" if you had asked a clear question to begin with.


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I apologize for frustrating you. I was having a hard time following your train of thought from a politician getting news coverage to what they did to get news coverage.
Which is due to
1) Your poor wording of the question to begin with
2) Not understanding that one thing being 'usual' does not mean another
thing is 'unusual'.

I hope this clears things up. Let's move on now because I bet this has become as boring for others as it has for me.
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The events of the past week show that the Bernie Bros who still think Biden is no better then Trump are morons.
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