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3rd December 2020, 06:55 PM | #201 |
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3rd December 2020, 07:13 PM | #202 |
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The Trump Campaign has strong evidence that 80 million Americans conspired to vote him out of Office.
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3rd December 2020, 08:57 PM | #203 |
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Undoubtedly. Real evidence, Real Soon Now.
But I think this was indeed the lawsuit that was said to have tons of evidence and proof, and they dropped it. I saw some young Trump lawyer talking about it Wednesday morning, and he said that on Thursday at a scheduled hearing, everyone would see the evidence. I think that's the one that was dropped yesterday. Apparently, according to the article I linked the "evidence" consisted of proof that people who lived out of state voted in Nevada. It turns out that they were students, military personnel, and other people out of state temporarily who were eligible to vote in Nevada. I don't know if there are actual lawsuits still pending in Nevada. I don't have my lawsuit scorecard handy to keep track of which ones are pending, and which ones have been dismissed or dropped. |
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3rd December 2020, 11:58 PM | #205 |
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The people like "the man in the red shirt" and the like, are very easily identified. We have time stamps. We can see who was there. It's quite clear who they are. I, of course, do not know their names, but it's quite easy to find them. That leaves me with two observations.
1) We could ask them about why they did what they did. 2) They are being libeled by Team Trump, and by Trump himself through his retweets. Trump et. al. might be able to get around the libel accusation by saying they are JAQing instead of making accusations, but if the workers' identities end up getting revealed, and they are subject to threats or other sort of malicious actions, I think we could see them in court as plaintiffs. |
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4th December 2020, 02:00 AM | #207 |
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4th December 2020, 02:09 AM | #208 |
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4th December 2020, 02:27 AM | #209 |
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I...I...I just can't even. I can't even.
If I were to write a fictional story about lawsuits that just utterly fail in impossibly terrible ways, I could not have even come up with this. This is just beyond imagination. Failures upon failures upon failures in bizarre ways nobody could ever imagine. |
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4th December 2020, 02:33 AM | #210 |
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4th December 2020, 03:58 AM | #211 |
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OECD healthcare spending Public/Compulsory Expenditure on healthcare https://data.oecd.org/chart/60Tt Every year since 1990 the US Public healthcare spending has been greater than the UK as a proportion of GDP. More US Tax goes to healthcare than the UK |
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4th December 2020, 04:11 AM | #212 |
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4th December 2020, 04:22 AM | #213 |
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When you read the transcripts and then the judgements it is so obvious that the judges can't believe what the plaintiffs are putting forward, the arguments they make and the quality of the so-called "evidence".
I've never read as concentrated "passive-aggressive" (in a good way) comments and judgements as we get in these legal dealings. |
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“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |
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4th December 2020, 04:46 AM | #215 |
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4th December 2020, 04:49 AM | #216 |
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Yes.
Even if you only consider his tweets - 4 years ago no one would have believed that a USA president would tweet as he has done. Let's recall that even his supporters wouldn't have believed he would tweet as he has done, they were saying he would stop being a dick and become "presidential" once he entered office. The only honesty about Trump is that he is entirely what you see is what you get. |
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4th December 2020, 05:01 AM | #217 |
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There a video on youtube called "17 Minutes of Barack Obama Not Being Donald Trump". The contrast between the intelligent, thoughtful, well-educated and well spoken former president, and the crass, insulting pile of orange dog-turd currently squatting in the White House is staggering.
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4th December 2020, 05:36 AM | #218 |
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Trump Tweets
The best way to insure a @KLoeffler and @sendavidperdue VICTORY is to allow signature checks in the Presidential race, which will insure a Georgia Presidential win (very few votes are needed, many will be found). Spirits will soar and everyone will rush out and VOTE! @BrianKempGA |
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Thanks for the correction and pointing out the fallibility of human memory.
I recalled it as Ann Druyan, his wife, relating what he said on his deathbed. I was clearly conflating a couple of disparate memories. But I don’t think that completely negates my point about differing world views. |
4th December 2020, 06:01 AM | #220 |
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A nod towards the more rabid parts of the CT that seem to want to threaten to withhold votes in the GA senate race unless their demands are met.
Really starting to see some nasty infighting between the Trump loyalists and the Republicans that aren't willing to commit to the coup. |
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4th December 2020, 06:14 AM | #221 |
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Whistleblowers reveal that the USPS is responsible for tampering with hundreds of thousands of ballots. @OANN This long time Democrat stronghold got rid of massive numbers, especially in swing states, during and before delivery of the ballots. Well documented evidence! |
4th December 2020, 06:27 AM | #222 |
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When you join the postal service, they issue you x-ray goggles that let you read unopened mail. Or maybe they genetically modify you to give you natural x-ray vision. I don't remember. Oh right. They used the MailopenatronTM to undetectably open all of the ballots, got rid of the Trump ones, and then undetectably resealed them. |
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4th December 2020, 08:09 AM | #225 |
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RIGGED ELECTION! |
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Why is there this assumption that Democrat voters would be happy with the results of a rigged election, even though it was rigged in favour of their side?
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It's like the numerous times I've seen online articles about atheism and someone in the comments asked "If you don't believe in God, what keeps you from robbing, raping, and killing all the time?" ... Slowly stepping away from the potential serial killer who assumes that everyone has these urges and is kept from acting on them by the fear of divine punishment, like he is. |
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Of all the things Trump's tweeted lately, this one seems to me to be the most unhinged. Why would he need to tweet this? Does he think that there are people who don't quite understand that he thinks the election was rigged? Was there some significant ambiguity in all his previous tweets claiming that the election was rigged that he now feels this will clear up? Has there been a news report suggesting that he now thinks it was fair?
Presumably he just realised that it's a few minutes since he last tweeted anything, and though he hasn't actually got anything to say, he doesn't fell that he exists unless he's being actively obnoxious. But it feels like he's just knee-jerking now. Dave |
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Actually, I think it's exactly the opposite.
People tend to assume that "the enemy" is nothing like them, and while they would never, ever, do something like commit vote fraud, the other side is teeming with people willing to do so. In reality, I believe very few Americans on either side, or on no side at all, would participate in a vote fraud scheme. It goes along with a study I heard about earlier this year and have mentioned many times. I heard the author talking on NPR one day this summer. In American politics today, most people could be described as either somewhat left wing or somewhat right wing, with a few people being extreme left wing or extreme right wing. However, the people on each "somwhat" side, are convinced that there are very few "somewhat" on the other side. In other words, people who are somewhat left wing assume that there are huge numbers of people who are extreme right wing, and vice versa. ETA: Voter suppression is a different matter. Lots more are willing to do that, and many, many, people are willing to go along with it while rationalizing that they aren't really engaged in voter suppression. |
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I think most of the projection comes from Trump, who is definitely not above cheating. His followers parrot his idiocy. Their conceptual failure is not so much projection as blind faith in Trump.
Clearly there are Republicans with integrity, though, because we're seeing them standing fast in the face of madness, even if mostly on the state level. |
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I think, in the years to come, lots of ph. d. s will be written on subjects like "Tendency to follow your leader beyond common sense". Not a large percentage, but some people will push on behind a strong leader (and much as we might hate it, Trump is that) long after most will have peeled away. The reason it right now seems like so many of them do is really because Trump has been cultivating those even from before the -16 campaign, carefully weeding out those that might not comply. That's the game he has been playing: It is hardly 4d chess, but it IS a quite mean game of checkers.
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