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Old 13th December 2021, 07:08 AM   #41
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One thing about lead wedging a gun, the evidence can literally walk out on a cowboy boot after the gun is fired.
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Old 13th December 2021, 07:11 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
One thing about lead wedging a gun, the evidence can literally walk out on a cowboy boot after the gun is fired.
Is that so?
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Old 13th December 2021, 11:43 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Is that so?
Yes the lead wedge could have been picked up by Baldwin's boot.

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Old 14th December 2021, 12:37 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
Yes the lead wedge could have been picked up by Baldwin's boot.
Or you just made all this up and a series of failures of basic firearms safety "led" to a live round being in a weapon drawn by someone not familiar with guns carrying it in a configuration known to be dangerous who discharged it negligently.
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Old 14th December 2021, 07:58 AM   #45
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Or you just made all this up and a series of failures of basic firearms safety "led" to a live round being in a weapon drawn by someone not familiar with guns carrying it in a configuration known to be dangerous who discharged it negligently.
Or someone dropped the gun at half Cock on a railroad track and broke the sear, someone mistook a dud round for a dummy round and Mistakenly put it in the gun thinking the primer had already been fired, and this was all a horrible accident.
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Old 14th December 2021, 08:03 AM   #46
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Or someone dropped the gun at half Cock on a railroad track and broke the sear, someone mistook a dud round for a dummy round and Mistakenly put it in the gun thinking the primer had already been fired, and this was all a horrible accident.
Putting a live round in a gun that nobody is expecting to have a live round isn't an accident. It's negligence, pure and simple.
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Old 14th December 2021, 08:11 AM   #47
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Putting a live round in a gun that nobody is expecting to have a live round isn't an accident. It's negligence, pure and simple.
On that I agree, and If Dave Halls saw the round he would have thought the primer being struck ment it was an inert dummy, why not simply pop the primer out and replace it with green plastic then CGI in the Primer after the movie is shot?
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Old 14th December 2021, 08:24 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Putting a live round in a gun that nobody is expecting to have a live round isn't an accident. It's negligence, pure and simple.
LOOK on the bright side, if it was negligence, we have lost an Armourer and gained a pole dancer at a strip club, in a year or two when she gets out of prison.
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Old 14th December 2021, 08:52 AM   #49
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This conspiracy theory just gets stupider and stupider.
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Old 14th December 2021, 08:56 AM   #50
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
This conspiracy theory just gets stupider and stupider.
The Original accident was Stupid and Tradgic what do you expect?
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
The Original accident was Stupid and Tradgic what do you expect?
Then why come up with a conspiracy theory? The facts presented provide ample explanation for the event. There was a cascading failure in firearms safety that resulted in the death of a bystander. Unless you're in Africa, if you hear hoof beats, think horses no zebras.
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I know when I'm in Africa, if I hear hoof beats I think ladies of the pole.
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Old 14th December 2021, 10:55 AM   #53
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
LOOK on the bright side, if it was negligence, we have lost an Armourer and gained a pole dancer at a strip club, in a year or two when she gets out of prison.
Stay classy Senator.
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Old 14th December 2021, 04:46 PM   #54
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Then why come up with a conspiracy theory? The facts presented provide ample explanation for the event. There was a cascading failure in firearms safety that resulted in the death of a bystander. Unless you're in Africa, if you hear hoof beats, think horses no zebras.
What about the Zebras on the Ranch in Texas?
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Old 14th December 2021, 04:47 PM   #55
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Stay classy Senator.
Couldn't think of any other job she would be Qualified for after prison.
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Old 14th December 2021, 05:40 PM   #56
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
What about the Zebras on the Ranch in Texas?
That's rather my point.
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Old 14th December 2021, 05:40 PM   #57
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Couldn't think of any other job she would be Qualified for after prison.
Funny. I can't think of a job you could have that would qualify you to be senator.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
Couldn't think of any other job she would be Qualified for after prison.
Why would she go to prison when she wasn't even present on the set when the shooting took place? How can one be responsible for something they had nothing to do with?
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Also why is pole dancer the only post prison job anyone is qualified for? Even I think better of (most of) humanity than that.
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Why would she go to prison when she wasn't even present on the set when the shooting took place? How can one be responsible for something they had nothing to do with?
She loaded the gun, or so they claim.
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Old 14th December 2021, 06:44 PM   #61
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She loaded the gun, or so they claim.
"They"?
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Old 14th December 2021, 06:44 PM   #62
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Funny. I can't think of a job you could have that would qualify you to be senator.
What it's right in my Name Crazy aren't all Senators crazy?
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Old 14th December 2021, 06:45 PM   #63
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"They"?
Dave Hall and members of the Rust set.
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Also why is pole dancer the only post prison job anyone is qualified for? Even I think better of (most of) humanity than that.
Her irresponsibility in regards to human life.
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Her irresponsibility in regards to human life.
But Baldwin is still okay in your book, right? He can still be a movie star, as far as you're concerned?
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
She loaded the gun, or so they claim.
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"They"?
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Dave Hall and members of the Rust set.
OK, I'm going to assume that by 'Rust set' you mean the crew on Rust. Where have they said that the absent armourer loaded the gun? Why should we believe them? Who the **** is Dave Hall? I don't recall that name coming up on this thread before.
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She loaded the gun, or so they claim.
So? You claim that someone doctored the gun to discharge unexpectedly. Wouldn't it be your mythical saboteur who actually loaded the gun, somewhere between the armory and the set?

Why do you hate the armorer so much?

Hell, why do you hate ladies of the pole so much?
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What it's right in my Name Crazy aren't all Senators crazy?
No.
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Also why is pole dancer the only post prison job anyone is qualified for? Even I think better of (most of) humanity than that.

Pretty certain none of scores of strippers I worked with did any hard time



Hey if he can't win in the regular forum start a thread here I guess.
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CC, I'm curious as to your response to my question in the politics sub forum.
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OK, I'm going to assume that by 'Rust set' you mean the crew on Rust. Where have they said that the absent armourer loaded the gun? Why should we believe them? Who the **** is Dave Hall? I don't recall that name coming up on this thread before.
Dave Hall is the assistant director who picked the gun up off of a prop cart and Handed it To Baldwin and yelled cold gun.
1 minute by an expert to load and rig the gun is plenty of time.
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So? You claim that someone doctored the gun to discharge unexpectedly. Wouldn't it be your mythical saboteur who actually loaded the gun, somewhere between the armory and the set?

Why do you hate the armorer so much?

Hell, why do you hate ladies of the pole so much?
An expert could have both Loaded and rigged the gun in one minute or less.
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Pretty certain none of scores of strippers I worked with did any hard time



Hey if he can't win in the regular forum start a thread here I guess.
You haven't been to the right clubs.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Chainsaw View Post
Dave Hall is the assistant director who picked the gun up off of a prop cart and Handed it To Baldwin and yelled cold gun.
1 minute by an expert to load and rig the gun is plenty of time.
1st highlight: thank you.

2nd highlight: what's that got to do with these questions?

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OK, I'm going to assume that by 'Rust set' you mean the crew on Rust. Where have they said that the absent armourer loaded the gun? Why should we believe them?
ETA: a nitpick, but his name Halls, not Hall.
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As with all conspiracy theories the question must be asked as to why not just accomplish the same goals in a massively less convoluted way.
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An expert could have both Loaded and rigged the gun in one minute or less.
That's not what I asked.
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1st highlight: thank you.

2nd highlight: what's that got to do with these questions?



ETA: a nitpick, but his name Halls, not Hall.
The Amourer stated she Loaded 5 Dummies before lunch, then a sixth Dummy after Lunch.
Then the gun was left on a prop cart in a gun safe also rented from the same prop company.
What if an expert who worked with guns knew the combination to that gun safe from a previous Movie they worked on?
The Amourers father seem to indicate a bad blood relationship between his daughter and another Armour, who he loaned low pressure rounds too.
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The Amourer stated she Loaded 5 Dummies before lunch, then a sixth Dummy after Lunch.
Then the gun was left on a prop cart in a gun safe also rented from the same prop company.
What if an expert who worked with guns knew the combination to that gun safe from a previous Movie they worked on?
The Amourers father seem to indicate a bad blood relationship between his daughter and another Armour, who he loaned low pressure rounds too.
Do you have evidence that happened?
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That's not what I asked.
I don't hate the Amourer, nor do I hate Ladies pole dancing, just never spent money on them, I know Fantasy from reality, and I have had bad experiences with women, one shot the back Glass out of my pickup Truck with her dad's Double barrel 12 gage shot gun with Double 00 Buck shot, and another tried to run over me with a Lincoln Continental. Not to mention the Blond German excange student who cracked me over the head in Tennessee, and left me with a $4500.00
Hotel room bill for Damages Room service and Cleaning, and I still don't remember what happened that weekend, just waking up nude with tuna salid Vomit all over me.
I tend to leave women alone now, because I want to live, and don't need the pain anymore.
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Do you have evidence that happened?
Only in the testimony of eye witnesses.
What evidence would you expect to find?
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