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viewer comments under that Schwab expose video by J PSears:
Anyone else find it sad that a comedian is our most reliable news source? aid that humans are hackable animals and that free will is over, that chilled me to the bone. Nope! This was seriously the most serious video you’ve ever composed. JP you are leading this battle. I really hope the world wakes up and realizes what a huge threat this group is. We are seriously in trouble if everyone keeps ignoring what is really going on. How anyone could watch this, and not have something quick in their head is extremely troubling. This video alone should be enough to convince every sentient Man woman and child. Sadly though, I think we’re dealing with some sort of possession, or psychosis, and it might not even be possible. It's kind of depressing that you could show a brilliant nail-on-the-head video like this to the majority of people and they'll mostly stare blankly and not grasp the seriousness of it The power of sarcasm as a weapon for truth has never been more beautifully displayed. Just hitting all the nails on the head in one go. Love it! |
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How much power does the WEF have, and can you give any examples of how they have exercised this power?
Again, in your own words, please, rather than copy-and-pasting comments from others or spamming yet more mercola links. I am going to keep asking, by the way, because I think your silence is speaking volumes here: Are you linking to mercola as a serious source? |
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I'm not going to go search quotes, but I'd bet that Bubba (and Tippit, PBUH) started saying "Klaus Schwab" around the time that Alex Jones did, maybe 18 months ago or so. Klaus wasn't the boogeyman for decades, even though he started the WEF like 50 years ago.
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Mercola and Mike Adams.
Just how dumb would a person need to be to swallow this garbage? |
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It's over for humanity. There will only be lone survivors.https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkea...racy-theorists |
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I am confident this is true. In most cases, Bubba's phrasing and tactics (e.g., "I was told...") are purposely intended to elicit a response to the misinformation expressed, while simultaneously providing Bubba with Sir Robin's escape.
Bubba thinks him/herself to be a puppeteer, whereas he/she is just a sophomoric troll throwing rocks from poorly disguised cover. |
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IMHO, Bubba is the Omicron Troll Variant, sans greater communicability - a less harmful form, riding the coattails of earlier versions in an attempt to bolster their own notoriety.
Deliberately dodging direct questions is the common attribute for all subfamilies of the Troll. |
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These are the words of someone else to describe the scientific method in general.
The six steps of the scientific method include: 1) asking a question about something you observe, 2) doing background research to learn what is already known about the topic, 3) constructing a hypothesis, 4) experimenting to test the hypothesis, 5) analyzing the data from the experiment and drawing conclusions, and 6) communicating the results to others. There is criticism of the method used by the scientists who've produced papers saying that they have isolated the virus. Their idea of "isolation" is not actual purified virus particles and they admit their electron micrographs do not not show virus particles. What is abundantly clear in the "science" of virology is the lack of controlled experiments made very evident in this video by Dr Sam Bailey. I'm not going to summarise what's in the video and if you don't want to watch it fine, I just put it forward as it's just been released. https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/th...bout-viruses:a |
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/state-of-the-union-2012/
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I wasn't aware of this response. I've seen other responses that simply say they don't have information as requested. It's not a good look obviously that Christine Massey didn't respond to their requests. Of course, it's a given that viruses aren't isolated as specified by her criteria - I think the point is viruses simply cannot be isolated and therefore it's unscientific to state the process has been achieved.
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LOL. An unreasonable demand. That really is a good one!
Oh my goodness. So they suspect a novel virus from a "cluster" of 44 patients with pnemonia of "unknown origin" and they generate a genome sequence by taking bronchoalveolar swabs from a single one of those patients. You've got to be kidding right? You have seriously got to be kidding that the demand for the paper behind this utter garbage should not be provided. |
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Sigh....It's so sad to see that by now we have several hundred millions infected and you still seem to suggest that when anywhere on the planet a person is tested positive, some sinister process is being activated where the whole staff of the testing site is in the know and they actively play along the "this person just tested negative but we have orders to claim that they tested positive because we are doing a fake pandemic because of reasons"-game
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Notes from the Field: A Novel Coronavirus Genome Identified in a Cluster of Pneumonia Cases — Wuhan, China 2019−2020
https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/articl...e-4253b453d10c "On January 3, 2020, the first complete genome of the novel β genus coronaviruses (2019-nCoVs) was identified in samples of bronchoalveolar lavage fluid (BALF) from a patient from Wuhan by scientists of the National Institute of Viral Disease Control and Prevention (IVDC) through a combination of Sanger sequencing, Illumina sequencing, and nanopore sequencing. Three distinct strains have been identified, the virus has been designated as 2019-nCoV, and the disease has been subsequently named novel coronavirus-infected pneumonia (NCIP)." Can you not see how unscientific this is? First there is no reason to suspect a novel virus - 44 cases of pneumonia without clear indications of something unusual about these 44 cases doesn't make a "cluster" and how do you identify any particular virus in bronchoalveolar lavage samples from a single patient? It is absurd in the extreme. There are no controlled experiments going on here in the alleged isolation of the virus. Where are the samples from the patients allegedly not suffering infection? The whole problem with virology is that they don't take samples from non-infected people and compare them and they add loads of stuff to their cultures which obviously can have an effect on the organisms they're testing. If you can be bothered Sam Bailey exposes this lack of controlled experiment in her latest video. https://odysee.com/@drsambailey:c/th...bout-viruses:a |
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No I'm not forgetting my argument at all. The whole thing falls over at the first step because no evidence is provided for suspicion of a "novel" virus. That information is so very glaringly lacking and so at the outset it all falls over. But somehow - we must allow - that perhaps the scientific method gets back on track with determination of a new virus - it's just that it doesn't. Bronchoalveolar lavage samples from a single one of the alleged cluster is not getting back to the scientific method one little bit.
It's like the cartoon of the two mathematicians where you see a great long mathematical explanation across a board and the one mathematician, standing towards the far left of the board and pointing at some equation in that area, says to the other who wrote the mathematical explanation, "You made your mistake here." |
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Nope in response to my claim that I have shown that suspicion of a novel virus is unscientific.
Yes I have. 44 patients with pneumonia doesn't make a cluster and "unknown aetiology" makes no sense in a highly-polluted city such as Wuhan. The suspicion of a novel virus is clearly unscientific. I simply do not know how you can keep arguing against the bleeding obvious and incontrovertible. Until someone provides evidence for those 44 patients with pneumonia in Wuhan to be regarded as a "cluster" - and I would have thought someone among all you apologists of the mainstream narrative would have done it by now - the suspicion of a "novel" virus is unscientific. |
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What I'm doing is following the path taken. We start on an unscientific foot because we are not given any reason to perceive these 44 patients as a cluster. Then we follow the path from this alleged cluster. Does the path get back on a scientific track or does it stay off it?
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What do you think pneumonia is? It's an inflammation of the lungs caused by an infection. Pollution can increase the risk of getting pneumonia, but it doesn't cause it; it's caused by a bacterium, virus or fungus.
Given that, what do you think 'unknown aetiology' means? In our hospital, and I imagine most hospitals, a patient with suspected pneumonia will have chest imaging and respiratory samples sent for microbiology. If the tests are negative for the most common infective causes, the samples will get tested for atypical causes. There could be many reasons why these tests are negative e.g. antimicrobial therapy has already been started, poorly collected specimen etc. but in the Wuhan cases, as I believe Planigale has already explained, there were novel changes on the chest imaging that did not look like typical pneumonic changes. Why do novel changes on imaging and no infective cause found on microbiological tests make the suspicion of a novel virus 'unscientific'? What other circumstances would you want to have occurred to make it more scientific? As has already also been explained, as few as two cases can be a cluster. Why do you have a problem with this? |
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This would appear to be the heart of the matter. You do not know what it was about these cases which made people suspect something peculiar was going on, and this bothers you.
I'm afraid I can't offer any insight into the chain of events but I'm slightly curious to know what work you have done so far to try to discover the answer. |
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Liar. You responded to that post, and included it in your post:
Petra, stop lying. Please. Then there's this: You acknowledge that what Massey is asking for is impossible, so you must therefore also acknowledge that she is being ignorant, dishonest, or both. Which is it? To repeat: by your own (weird and comical) standards of evidence, if she did not respond, then she must be wrong. Do you accept that? As for 'viruses simply cannot be isolated', you know by now that this is wrong, and yet you continue to ignore or handwave away the evidence that disproves your claim. Again, please stop this dishonesty: no-one is buying it. |
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Endless repetition is the foundation of Petra's argument. Examples below.
Hypoxaemia is real, and objectively measurable using an inexpensive pulse oximeter. Hypoxaemia without shortness of breath or other obvious respiratory distress, known as silent hypoxia or happy hypoxia, is moderately common in patients suffering from COVID-19. Petra's repeated denials of those facts are unscientific. This is at least the tenth time, and probably more like the twentieth time, that Petra has stated this false claim. Petra's STEP ONE has been debunked dozens of times, quite possibly hundreds of times, in this and the preceding thread. Petra attempts to evade such debunking by making silly demands such as: Petra has ignored many links, accompanied by words, that directly address her comments. The word I highlighted above emphasizes the following behavior: When Petra's claims are debunked, she repeats the claim more or less verbatim so she can then say her "latest" statement of the claim has not been addressed. That is a lie. Petra herself evinces no knowledge of the relevant science, yet she bases her claim upon her own unsupportable belief that she and she alone knows what "cluster" and "unknown origin" should mean in scientific discourse. Planigale, quoted in the spoiler, is one of many who have enumerated "clear indications of something unusual" that led scientists to suspect a novel virus. That is an outstandingly stupid claim. Virologists distinguish infected from non-infected people by taking samples from both. There are several different kinds of test for current or prior infection with SARS-CoV-2, but all are based on taking samples, analyzing them, and comparing the results of those analyses to results that indicate infection or non-infection. That is another outstandingly stupid claim. If 44 patients develop pneumonia at the same time and place, that's a cluster of 44 patients with pneumonia. If the cause (etiology) of the pneumonia is unknown, then it's a cluster of 44 patients with pneumonia of unknown etiology. Knowing that the city in which the cluster appeared is highly polluted might suggest some ideas for research aimed at discovering the etiology, but the etiology remains unknown until the etiology becomes known. Claiming that "suspicion of a novel virus is clearly unscientific" is just one of Petra's clearly unscientific claims. Petra continues to show how easy it is for conspiracy theorists to "keep arguing against the bleeding obvious and incontrovertible." It's much harder to argue against the bleeding obvious and incontrovertible when you respect obvious and incontrovertible evidence, which is why so few here have joined Petra in "arguing against the bleeding obvious and incontrovertible." The vacuity of Petra's argument is illustrated by the next three quotations. In those three quotations, Petra is just repeating her ridiculous claim that someone's use of the word "cluster" with its ordinary meaning in both science and English is (1) unscientific and (2) sufficiently unscientific to overturn the "bleeding obvious and incontrovertible" scientific fact that a novel virus has emerged, causing millions of deaths over a period of two years. I presume your lack of interest in qualifications is (1) the reason you (mis)identified FOI busybody Christine Massey as a microbiologist, (2) continue to write "Dr" in front of a non-practicing quack's name, (3) write "Dr John Bevan-Smith" to remind us of John's PhD in English, (4) and so on. As Cosmic Yak has pointed out, one of the institutions did indeed do what you claimed none of the institutions did. Your lack of awareness of that institution's response, and of Christine Massey's non-responses to requests for clarification of her FOI requests, simply remind us of your determination to ignore all evidence that fails to confirm your biased ignorance of this and other topics. In her response to that, Petra again showed she is an extraordinarily poor judge of what is or is not scientific: |
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