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Old 28th November 2022, 08:45 AM   #1
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Question on the theory of bases on Mars?

When did this conspiracy first begin?

That the USA or 'earth' had bases on Mars?
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Old 28th November 2022, 11:44 AM   #2
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So, we didn't land on the moon, but built a base on Mars.

Those NASA dudes are cunning af.
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Old 28th November 2022, 01:27 PM   #3
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This is new to me but it probably started shortly after the face/pyramids on mars stuff from the viking missions.

The internet says it started in 2014 with a random caller to Art Bell's show claiming to have witnessed footage of an astronaut on mars.

ETA, you've got to love Richard Hoagland. Among other things, he claims pairdolia isn't a real thing. I'm not sure how he explains kids looking for shapes in the clouds.

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Old 28th November 2022, 01:40 PM   #4
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Soon Solomon Epstein will develop his new drive and they'll declare independence from earth and form the Martian Congressional Republic, ushering in about a century of cold war between the Inyalowda. Not that that will stop both sides from exploiting the Beltalowda.

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Old 28th November 2022, 06:59 PM   #5
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I think this one was floated in the mid-1980s. Probably gained momentum thanks to a caller into Art Bell.
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Old 28th November 2022, 09:48 PM   #6
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I think this one was floated in the mid-1980s. Probably gained momentum thanks to a caller into Art Bell.
I see, I'm trying to get some idea how old the CTis. I suspect somewhere someone had kept track or studied this.
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Old 28th November 2022, 10:10 PM   #7
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Wasn't H.G. Wells' "War of the Worlds" basically about Mars bases? Not human bases but Martian ones. Late 1800's / early 1900's?
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Old 28th November 2022, 10:12 PM   #8
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there is a base.
it grows potatoes.
I saw it in a documentary.
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Old 28th November 2022, 11:55 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Wasn't H.G. Wells' "War of the Worlds" basically about Mars bases? Not human bases but Martian ones. Late 1800's / early 1900's?
Yeah bur the chances of anything coming from Mars...
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Old 29th November 2022, 04:11 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by ahhell View Post
This is new to me but it probably started shortly after the face/pyramids on mars stuff from the viking missions.

The internet says it started in 2014 with a random caller to Art Bell's show claiming to have witnessed footage of an astronaut on mars.

ETA, you've got to love Richard Hoagland. Among other things, he claims pairdolia isn't a real thing. I'm not sure how he explains kids looking for shapes in the clouds.
There really was a giant gorilla in our toilet door when I was a kid?

And that really is a giant head on Nea Kameni in the Santorini caldera?

No wonder I turned out like I did...

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Old 29th November 2022, 04:12 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by threadworm View Post
Yeah bur the chances of anything coming from Mars...
Are about the same as hitting a dragon in the voonerables with an arrow?
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Old 29th November 2022, 04:30 AM   #12
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Aah Hoaxland, still around milking money from the stupid.

Naturally he's been all over Artemis, claiming the live feeds prove his claims that there are massive artificial structures on the lunar side.

https://www.theothersideofmidnight.c...ancient-domes/

The evidence for this being..erm...
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Old 29th November 2022, 04:33 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by threadworm View Post
Aah Hoaxland, still around milking money from the stupid.

Naturally he's been all over Artemis, claiming the live feeds prove his claims that there are massive artificial structures on the lunar side.

https://www.theothersideofmidnight.c...ancient-domes/

The evidence for this being..erm...
...strong and repeated hallucinogenic drugs??
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Old 29th November 2022, 06:21 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by Foster Zygote View Post
Soon Solomon Epstein will develop his new drive and they'll declare independence from earth and form the Martian Congressional Republic, ushering in about a century of cold war between the Inyalowda. Not that that will stop both sides from exploiting the Beltalowda.

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Old 29th November 2022, 09:48 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by threadworm View Post
Aah Hoaxland, still around milking money from the stupid.

Naturally he's been all over Artemis, claiming the live feeds prove his claims that there are massive artificial structures on the lunar side.

https://www.theothersideofmidnight.c...ancient-domes/

The evidence for this being..erm...
There are grifters everywhere preying on the stupid that believe we are not alone and will pay for speeches to that effect. Rather like Marcus Allen and his Moon Hoax seminars attract individuals who want to believe Apollo was fake and pay for his presentations.
You can't cure STUPID.
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Old 29th November 2022, 10:53 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by threadworm View Post
Aah Hoaxland, still around milking money from the stupid.

Naturally he's been all over Artemis, claiming the live feeds prove his claims that there are massive artificial structures on the lunar side.

https://www.theothersideofmidnight.c...ancient-domes/

The evidence for this being..erm...
Having listened to a lot of Art Bell back in the day(I was a night security guard), Hoagland is definitely a grifter, I still think he probably drank his own kool aid.
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Old 29th November 2022, 11:59 AM   #18
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I see, I'm trying to get some idea how old the CTis. I suspect somewhere someone had kept track or studied this.
That Israeli space security guy claimed there was on back in 2020:

https://slate.com/culture/2020/12/ma...t-further.html

Here's a story from 2011:

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna43299687

I recall the subject came up at a meeting of our local UFO Discussion Group (before I was kicked out). Ironically, nobody believed it. This was 1997. I think it started around the same time as the Chem-Trail thing.
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Having listened to a lot of Art Bell back in the day(I was a night security guard), Hoagland is definitely a grifter, I still think he probably drank his own kool aid.
Back in university I was a night cleaner for a big restaurant. It was always a battle for the radio playing either Art Bell or Dr. Demento.

It was hard to tell who was funnier but Art made me think. Think about how dumb people can be that is.
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Back in university I was a night cleaner for a big restaurant. It was always a battle for the radio playing either Art Bell or Dr. Demento.

It was hard to tell who was funnier but Art made me think. Think about how dumb people can be that is.
There were couple of times the guest would say something so clearly self evidently wrong that I just couldn't imagine anyone buying anything they had to say. The time Hoagland just dismissed paradoila was one. Every living human has experienced it, anyone listening should have immediately gone, "wait, what?" He even explained what it was before claiming it was just made up. Seriously, does hoagland actually think that's Jesus in the toast and fluffy bunnies in the sky?

The other was a guest talking about the evils of flouride and as an aside casually referenced, "the debunked germ theory of disease". If Art even noticed, he didn't miss a beat.

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Old 29th November 2022, 02:38 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
That Israeli space security guy claimed there was on back in 2020:

https://slate.com/culture/2020/12/ma...t-further.html

Here's a story from 2011:

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna43299687

I recall the subject came up at a meeting of our local UFO Discussion Group (before I was kicked out). Ironically, nobody believed it. This was 1997. I think it started around the same time as the Chem-Trail thing.
Yep the chem-trail thing was often right there along with the mars base stuff. '97 sounds about right and for me it would often come up when looking at discussions about Tesla and the Philadelphia experiment. One of my coworkers here was always looking at a site I think called...(just a word of caution our work web policies, now, won't permit access to that site)

educateyourself.org

Which has just about every CT you could ever imagine as if it were gospel.
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Old 30th November 2022, 09:23 AM   #22
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Ah so a general agreement for 97 - or so?
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Ah so a general agreement for 97 - or so?
I can live with that. Can't find any mentions dating back earlier.
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