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Old 20th March 2018, 06:43 PM   #161
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Originally Posted by webfusion View Post
In the meantime, special dispensation from the government is being requested so that a wall can start going up immediately.
And Mexico will pay for it.
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Old 20th March 2018, 07:02 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by webfusion View Post
RUH-ROH.

Zoning regulations in Jerusalem do not currently allow for the construction of a 10-foot wall around the existing compound, which the State Department wants to do prior to May 14th to make it even more secure than it already is.

http://israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/243403
The National Planning and Building Committee is only scheduled to meet next in April, and that body can provide authorization, but that wouldn't leave enough time for the work to be done by May.

In the meantime, special dispensation from the government is being requested so that a wall can start going up immediately.
I don't see the problem.
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Old 29th March 2018, 02:42 PM   #163
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Indeed, this "problem" was resolved with the stroke of a pen, as Israeli Finance Minister Moshe Kahlon on Wednesday signed a waiver allowing U.S. State Department officials to skip applying for rezoning and construction permits while upgrading an interim embassy facility in Jerusalem.
https://www.upi.com/https:/www.upi.c.../5121522246626
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Old 30th March 2018, 09:59 AM   #164
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The Arabs consider Israel to be an alien state on Arab lands. This has resulted in endless wars which might drag us into it as well. Let's hope common sense will prevail. It's no good just saying the Arabs don't want a peaceful settlement. Jerusalem and ejectment orders are a provocation.
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Old 30th March 2018, 03:01 PM   #165
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As Jews the world over sit at their 'seder' tables and enjoy retelling of the story of return to Zion, we end with the words "Next Year in Jerusalem" as we've been doing for countless generations.

To even suggest that's a provocation against Muslims (or Arabs) is disingenuous at best.

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Old 30th March 2018, 04:15 PM   #166
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post
The Arabs consider Israel to be an alien state on Arab lands. This has resulted in endless wars which might drag us into it as well. Let's hope common sense will prevail. It's no good just saying the Arabs don't want a peaceful settlement. Jerusalem and ejectment orders are a provocation.
I'll alert The Elders immediately. They're always excited to hear advice from anti-Semites.
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Old 31st March 2018, 08:41 AM   #167
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I'll alert The Elders immediately. They're always excited to hear advice from anti-Semites.
That's not cricket. These members of the Jewish race always say that any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism. That defies common sense. All my life there has been Arab hatred of Israel, and you must ask yourself WHY?

There is a bit about this matter in a book called The Eden Legacy by Geoffrey McDermott in 1969:

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Beeley is no oil painting, has a twitch and a stammer, wears dowdy suits; but he treats Arabs as intelligent human beings and not as inferiors, which has been the tradition with too many British diplomats. His job is not made easier by blimps such as Lord Mancroft, who saw fit to describe in the Lords the closure of the Suez Canal as 'a ridiculous farce', and to cast aspersions on the skill of an Egyptian dentist who operated on a British seaman from one of the ships bottled up in the canal. 'I should not like to put myself in the hands of any dentist of the UAR,' said his Jewish lordship. It is a state of mind.
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Old 31st March 2018, 03:11 PM   #168
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Originally Posted by Henri McPhee View Post

There is a bit about this matter in a book called The Eden Legacy by Geoffrey McDermott in 1969:
That book does not seem to have been influential in any way, nor do the other two books written by the same author. Further, the passage you cite from it doesn't seem to have any significance to this discussion, so...?
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Old 31st March 2018, 03:54 PM   #169
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That's not cricket. These members of the Jewish race always say that any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism. That defies common sense. All my life there has been Arab hatred of Israel, and you must ask yourself WHY?
You should be eternally grateful for the establishment of modern Israel. She gives accurately identified anti-semites something to stammer in defense.
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Old 1st April 2018, 02:31 AM   #170
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My father used to say when he was alive that Israel is only the size of Wales, as though that made everything fair and just. It's like the narrow- minded Irish Catholics.
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Old 1st April 2018, 02:45 AM   #171
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The actions of Israel are often driven by the hostility of her Arab neighbours. However those actions are also often wrong (expanding settlments, removing citizenship rights, restricting travel, armed over reaction to protests). It is not anti-semitic to point out that the government of a state are behaving contrary to the accepted norms and laws practiced by other countries. You are criticising the politics of a nation, just as you can criticise the UK government for many of its actions during the Irish Troubles (Bloody Sunday) or an overly aggresive US foreign policy (Chile, Cuba, Grenada, Afghanistan, Iraq). It doesn't make you anti-W.A.S.P. Criticising Israel only becomes anti-semitic if you state they are acting that way BECAUSE they are Jews.
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Old 2nd April 2018, 05:04 AM   #172
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"It is not anti-semitic to point out that the government of a state are behaving contrary to the accepted norms and laws practiced by other countries."

I would say it's antisemitic when those who criticize make a point of excluding attention to all other countries' bad behaviors.
(See: UNHRC)

And Bibi is right, when he notes that Turkish President is acting like someone throwing rocks while living in his own glass house.
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