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Fast Eddie B · 23rd March 2023, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

He is psychologically incapable of asking anybody for help. Especially someone like Biden. It would mean admitting that he isn't perfect.

Disagree. He asked Russia for help. “Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."

He asked Zelensky for help. “Do me a favor”.

He asked Raffensperger for help. “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have…”

He asked Pence for help re: the counting of the electoral votes.

Many other examples. I don’t think malignant narcissism precludes asking/manipulating other to do your will.

8enotto · 23rd March 2023, 06:32 AM

The golden egg of failing health and/or needs that cannot be provided for inside a facility still stand.

It would hurt his presidential run badly outside of the maga rats fanbase so it's a very last option.

My personal thoughts are he will attempt delays via legal teams at any cost, miss court dates for any reason and then say he will not be able to participate for his ever important re-election efforts.
He doesn't care if he sinks everyone around him to get what he wants.

The detail he cannot control is the USSS detail that is ever present may not help him for bigger loyalties. He cannot go anywhere without them knowing.

JoeMorgue · 23rd March 2023, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by 8enotto

He doesn't care if he sinks everyone around him to get what he wants.

And this was a problem when he was the President and "everyone around him" included... everyone.

Now? Anyone still in the same lifeboat with that ****** deserves to go down, so he can take as many people with him as he wants as far as I care.

Segnosaur · 23rd March 2023, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Quote:

Ask Biden for a pardon

He is psychologically incapable of asking anybody for help. Especially someone like Biden. It would mean admitting that he isn't perfect.

Well, he won't phrase it like "Please can I have a pardon".

Instead he might phrase it like "Biden should know I'm the most innocent man ever in the world, and he should pardon me to stop the witch hunt that is taking away resources that can stop the invasion of illegal immigrants across the border that Biden is responsible for". Or instead state "If I don't get pardoned there will be widespread protests, headed by the proud boys whom I don't really know anything about but I just told to stand by".

ZiprHead · 23rd March 2023, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

In other words, if you're planning on shooting him, make sure you kill him.

Do they make bulletproof vests in extra fat?

Fidelio · 23rd March 2023, 12:25 PM

I dunno a shoot out at Mara Lago with the second amendment bros and the FBI with that orange feller in hiding on world wide TV. One can only hope.

Stacyhs · 23rd March 2023, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Fidelio

I dunno a shoot out at Mara Lago with the second amendment bros and the FBI with that orange feller in hiding on world wide TV. One can only hope.

Whacko version of Waco?

dudalb · 23rd March 2023, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

That would ensure a Democrat win.

Yes, but you think Trump would care about that? Trump would want to destroy the GOP in revenge for not nominating him. Trump cares only about Trump.

Hans · 23rd March 2023, 03:33 PM

I showed that fanciful short list to someone else and they came up with another good one. Trump begs Putin to declare him a Russian citizen and then make him a Russian diplomat - with immunity - back dated!

theprestige · 23rd March 2023, 03:59 PM

Would the diplomatic immunity even need to be back dated?

On the other hand, couldn't the host country just decline to issue diplomatic credentials?

newyorkguy · 23rd March 2023, 04:19 PM

A shoot out at Mar-a-Lago? Some pundits say trump's latest Truth Social rant seems like a thinly veiled threat.

What is it with this 'everybody' stuff? Everybody knows he's innocent. Everybody knows the election was stolen. Yadda-yadda-yadda.

Meanwhile... MAGA!!!

Stacyhs · 23rd March 2023, 05:28 PM

Typical Trump lunacy. The rantings of a desperate man.

Hans · 23rd March 2023, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Typical Trump lunacy. The rantings of a desperate man.

So, what is his next move: more rants or some action that's really stupid?

Stacyhs · 23rd March 2023, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Hans

So, what is his next move: more rants or some action that's really stupid?

Who can predict what a lunatic will do?

arthwollipot · 23rd March 2023, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Who can predict what a lunatic will do?

I think he'll go quietly. He'll continue ranting on his twitter wannabe network, until he's not allowed to any more, but he won't do anything radical himself because he'll be expecting the people to rise up and save him, because of course they will.

Norman Alexander · 23rd March 2023, 06:24 PM

All this bravado from a guy who is scared of a bird.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j1AU4qi7tWg

arthwollipot · 23rd March 2023, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

All this bravado from a guy who is scared of a bird.

Given the circumstances, I'd flinch from that too.

bruto · 23rd March 2023, 06:34 PM

Everybody knows, yes everybody knows.....

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dudalb · 23rd March 2023, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Hans

So, what is his next move: more rants or some action that's really stupid?

I really have images of Jimmy Cagney in the last five minutes of "White Heat"

TOP OF THE WORLD, MA, TOP OF THE WORLD

dudalb · 23rd March 2023, 07:30 PM

What is interesting is that all of his a lawyers are telling Trump to turn himself in quietly, ..pretty sure they could arrange for him to be indicted and then releaserd on a huge bond and never actually have him (at least for now) go to jail, but Trump seems to be resisting that wanting a much drama as possible.

dudalb · 23rd March 2023, 07:31 PM

"As they tell us to be peaceful"

those words might come back to haunt Trump if it turns viiolent.

He might as yell "Burn,Baby, Burn" and be done with it.

dudalb · 23rd March 2023, 07:33 PM

And Alvin Bragg is an Afro American.
You know if Trump is indicted the race card will be played like it neverhas before.

newyorkguy · 23rd March 2023, 08:12 PM

I think trump's lawyers have been suggesting he allow them to arrange a virtual arraignment by remote hookup. trump is in Mar-a-Lago the court is in Manhattan. Many legal experts expect no actual arrest, he'll be arraigned and then processed right in the courthouse. Possibly no bond requirement at all. None.

trump's latest antics remind me of Al Pacino in "Scarface." And an even older (much older) movie, 1931's "Little Cesar," starring Edward G. Robinson. Wonder if they're trump faves?

dudalb · 23rd March 2023, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

I think trump's lawyers have been suggesting he allow them to arrange a virtual arraignment by remote hookup. trump is in Mar-a-Lago the court is in Manhattan. Many legal experts expect no actual arrest, he'll be arraigned and then processed right in the courthouse. Possibly no bond requirement at all. None.

trump's latest antics remind me of Al Pacino in "Scarface." And an even older (much older) movie, 1931's "Little Cesar," starring Edward G. Robinson. Wonder if they're trump faves?

And the movie i referenced, White Heat imho the best gangster shoots it out with the authoraties ever done.

But Little Caesar...."Could this be the end of Trump?".

Orphia Nay · 23rd March 2023, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Stacyhs

Whacko version of Waco?

Didn't he just recently do a rally in Waco? The irony was not unnoticed by me.

Aridas · 23rd March 2023, 08:39 PM

This may be of some interest -

Judge Gives Trump Mafia Boss Treatment And Says So

Quote:

The Federal judge handling E. Jean Carroll’s rape/defamation lawsuits against Donald Trump just gave Trump a treatment generally reserved for mafia bosses and terrorists. Judge Lewis Kaplan ordered that the jurors in the case will be anonymous. The judge did so, not on the request of either party, but sua sponte (the court’s own motion). The judge acknowledged that such treatment was unusual and “most often” reserved for “terrorism and organized crime cases.”

However, the judge cited Trump’s long history of attempting to intimidate courts, witnesses, and even individual jurors as justifying this unusual step.

dudalb · 23rd March 2023, 08:45 PM

I see the rioters in Bordeaus in France have burned down the City Hall.
Hope this does not give the MAGARATS any ideas.

Orphia Nay · 23rd March 2023, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Aridas

This may be of some interest -

Judge Gives Trump Mafia Boss Treatment And Says So

Wow, well done on the judge's part. Yep, the MAGA internet warriors definitely need to be prevented from harassing the jurors.

Norman Alexander · 23rd March 2023, 10:23 PM

Trump responded thusly. Can I ask what penalties apply for threatening a court official with a baseball bat?

Skeptic Ginger · 23rd March 2023, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

What is interesting is that all of his a lawyers are telling Trump to turn himself in quietly, ..pretty sure they could arrange for him to be indicted and then releaserd on a huge bond and never actually have him (at least for now) go to jail, but Trump seems to be resisting that wanting a much drama as possible.

Of course he wants drama. He just raised 1.5 million off of claiming an arrest was coming last Tue.

And I imagine he has quite a fantasy going about how he'll look on that perp walk. This is a man who knows no shame whatsoever.

Remember Bannon's perp walk. He used it to talk to the press.

Crazy Chainsaw · 24th March 2023, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

Of course he wants drama. He just raised 1.5 million off of claiming an arrest was coming last Tue.

And I imagine he has quite a fantasy going about how he'll look on that perp walk. This is a man who knows no shame whatsoever.

Remember Bannon's perp walk. He used it to talk to the press.

You have too have morals to know shame, Trump and the GQP have none.

Armitage72 · 24th March 2023, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Trump responded thusly. Can I ask what penalties apply for threatening a court official with a baseball bat?

Someone should point out to him that only about 20% of "US residents" voted for him in 2020, but he would probably spin it as something like "See, I did twice as well as he did."

Ladewig · 24th March 2023, 05:41 AM

Originally Posted by newyorkguy

I think trump's lawyers have been suggesting he allow them to arrange a virtual arraignment by remote hookup. trump is in Mar-a-Lago the court is in Manhattan. Many legal experts expect no actual arrest, he'll be arraigned and then processed right in the courthouse. Possibly no bond requirement at all. None.

trump's latest antics remind me of Al Pacino in "Scarface." And an even older (much older) movie, 1931's "Little Cesar," starring Edward G. Robinson. Wonder if they're trump faves?

The Trump photo is obviously faked: he is nowhere near smart enough to keep his finger off the trigger until he is ready to shoot.

Norman Alexander · 24th March 2023, 05:44 AM

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

All this bravado from a guy who is scared of a bird.

Given the circumstances, I'd flinch from that too.

Now imagine the same coward pulling the trigger on a noisy, dangerous AK47. He would scream, drop it, and run. With extra excretion.

Fast Eddie B · 24th March 2023, 06:06 AM

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

Didn't he just recently do a rally in Waco? The irony was not unnoticed by me.

Scheduled for tomorrow, Saturday. From USA Today:

The rally, planned for Saturday, will fall during the 30th anniversary of the siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. Federal agents, aiming to arrest cult leader David Koresh, surrounded his walled compound in an armed standoff that lasted more than a month. It ended in a botched raid that left 76 people, including 25 children, dead.

newyorkguy · 24th March 2023, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Trump responded thusly. Can I ask what penalties apply for threatening a court official with a baseball bat?

I have to admit, I never imagined trump getting this crazy. And referring to the Manhattan DA as an "animal" and "scum?" WTAF???

By the way, National File dot com is described by Wikipedia as a "an American right-wing blog and news website founded in August 2019. It is known for publishing false or misleading claims about COVID-19." National File has published (uploaded?) many fake news stories. But the one about Bragg isn't just fake, it's idiotic.

First, the 2021 election referred to was for Manhattan (New York County) residents only. It was not a citywide race. Obviously, if Bragg had only won 10% of the votes in Manhattan he would not now be Manhattan District Attorney. Second, Bragg won 83% of the vote, beating Republican challenger Thomas Kenniff by about 170,000 votes out of about 250,000 cast (211,000 vs 41,000).

The amount of sheer lying trump and his acolytes do is beyond anything I have ever seen. It reaches the level where it's actually hard to believe it is happening.

A nightmare.

Segnosaur · 24th March 2023, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Trump responded thusly. Can I ask what penalties apply for threatening a court official with a baseball bat?

From: Yahoo news
CNN legal analyst Norm Eisen also spoke out about Mr Trump’s post. “Threatening a prosecutor is a crime in NY. In fact MULTIPLE crimes: Harassment in the first degree NYPL 240.25; menacing in the second degree NYPL 120.14; stalking in the fourth or third degree NYPL 120.45 & 120.50 And that’s just for starters….” he tweeted.

The Don · 24th March 2023, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

From: Yahoo news
CNN legal analyst Norm Eisen also spoke out about Mr Trump’s post. “Threatening a prosecutor is a crime in NY. In fact MULTIPLE crimes: Harassment in the first degree NYPL 240.25; menacing in the second degree NYPL 120.14; stalking in the fourth or third degree NYPL 120.45 & 120.50 And that’s just for starters….” he tweeted.

Very interesting but it only matters if the person doing the harassing is a nonentity.

The rich and powerful have "First Amendment Rights".

Hercules56 · 24th March 2023, 08:16 AM

Honestly I think it would be better if Trump was not charged over the Stormy Daniels nonsense, but instead was charged with the much more serious crimes dealing with trying to defraud the Georgia election and trying to intimidate politicians into doing his will. Those charges make a lot more sense and seem a lot more credible and definitely will convince the American people that a true crime was committed.

Segnosaur · 24th March 2023, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Hercules56

Honestly I think it would be better if Trump was not charged over the Stormy Daniels nonsense, but instead was charged with the much more serious crimes dealing with trying to defraud the Georgia election and trying to intimidate politicians into doing his will. Those charges make a lot more sense and seem a lot more credible and definitely will convince the American people that a true crime was committed.

I agree that the Stormy Daniels case is fairly weak compared to some others (at least in terms of potential sentencing, and the overall crime is nowhere near as serious as the document theft or sedition charges).

But from what evidence is available to the public, a crime WAS committed, and one that would normally warrant jail time. And there is no guarantee that any of the other investigations will lead to a successful conviction (even if those other crimes would lead to longer jail sentences, or may even be easier to convict.)

Trump deserves to go to jail. For a long, long time. And there are so many times he SHOULD have been charged but likely won't face any penalties (interference in the Russian investigation, blackmailing ukraine, bank/insurance fraud, etc.) Every conviction that they manage to pin on him (even if its for a relatively minor crime like altering business records) is a step closer to justice.

23rd March 2023, 06:34 AM	#2323
JoeMorgue Self Employed Remittance Man Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 44,037	Originally Posted by 8enotto He doesn't care if he sinks everyone around him to get what he wants. And this was a problem when he was the President and "everyone around him" included... everyone. Now? Anyone still in the same lifeboat with that ****** deserves to go down, so he can take as many people with him as he wants as far as I care.
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23rd March 2023, 07:45 AM	#2324
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 19,887	Originally Posted by arthwollipot Quote: Ask Biden for a pardon He is psychologically incapable of asking anybody for help. Especially someone like Biden. It would mean admitting that he isn't perfect. Well, he won't phrase it like "Please can I have a pardon". Instead he might phrase it like "Biden should know I'm the most innocent man ever in the world, and he should pardon me to stop the witch hunt that is taking away resources that can stop the invasion of illegal immigrants across the border that Biden is responsible for". Or instead state "If I don't get pardoned there will be widespread protests, headed by the proud boys whom I don't really know anything about but I just told to stand by".
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23rd March 2023, 11:44 AM	#2325
ZiprHead Muse Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sag-Nasty Posts: 923	Originally Posted by arthwollipot In other words, if you're planning on shooting him, make sure you kill him. Do they make bulletproof vests in extra fat?
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23rd March 2023, 12:25 PM	#2326
Fidelio Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The island of Atlanta Posts: 1,147	I dunno a shoot out at Mara Lago with the second amendment bros and the FBI with that orange feller in hiding on world wide TV. One can only hope.
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23rd March 2023, 01:05 PM	#2328
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,545	Originally Posted by arthwollipot That would ensure a Democrat win. Yes, but you think Trump would care about that? Trump would want to destroy the GOP in revenge for not nominating him. Trump cares only about Trump.
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23rd March 2023, 05:46 AM	#2321
Fast Eddie B Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lenoir City, TN/Mineral Bluff, GA Posts: 7,554	Originally Posted by arthwollipot He is psychologically incapable of asking anybody for help. Especially someone like Biden. It would mean admitting that he isn't perfect. Disagree. He asked Russia for help. “Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing." He asked Zelensky for help. “Do me a favor”. He asked Raffensperger for help. “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have…” He asked Pence for help re: the counting of the electoral votes. Many other examples. I don’t think malignant narcissism precludes asking/manipulating other to do your will.

23rd March 2023, 06:32 AM	#2322
8enotto Master Poster Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Mexico Posts: 2,863	The golden egg of failing health and/or needs that cannot be provided for inside a facility still stand. It would hurt his presidential run badly outside of the maga rats fanbase so it's a very last option. My personal thoughts are he will attempt delays via legal teams at any cost, miss court dates for any reason and then say he will not be able to participate for his ever important re-election efforts. He doesn't care if he sinks everyone around him to get what he wants. The detail he cannot control is the USSS detail that is ever present may not help him for bigger loyalties. He cannot go anywhere without them knowing.

23rd March 2023, 12:58 PM	#2327
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,221	Originally Posted by Fidelio I dunno a shoot out at Mara Lago with the second amendment bros and the FBI with that orange feller in hiding on world wide TV. One can only hope. Whacko version of Waco?

23rd March 2023, 03:33 PM	#2329
Hans Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9,004	I showed that fanciful short list to someone else and they came up with another good one. Trump begs Putin to declare him a Russian citizen and then make him a Russian diplomat - with immunity - back dated!
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23rd March 2023, 03:59 PM	#2330
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 64,244	Would the diplomatic immunity even need to be back dated? On the other hand, couldn't the host country just decline to issue diplomatic credentials?
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23rd March 2023, 05:28 PM	#2332
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,221	Typical Trump lunacy. The rantings of a desperate man.

23rd March 2023, 05:44 PM	#2333
Hans Philosopher Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 9,004	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Typical Trump lunacy. The rantings of a desperate man. So, what is his next move: more rants or some action that's really stupid?
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23rd March 2023, 05:46 PM	#2334
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 30,221	Originally Posted by Hans So, what is his next move: more rants or some action that's really stupid? Who can predict what a lunatic will do?

23rd March 2023, 05:55 PM	#2335
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 81,940	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Who can predict what a lunatic will do? I think he'll go quietly. He'll continue ranting on his twitter wannabe network, until he's not allowed to any more, but he won't do anything radical himself because he'll be expecting the people to rise up and save him, because of course they will.
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23rd March 2023, 06:24 PM	#2336
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,935	All this bravado from a guy who is scared of a bird. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j1AU4qi7tWg
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23rd March 2023, 06:29 PM	#2337
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 81,940	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander All this bravado from a guy who is scared of a bird. Given the circumstances, I'd flinch from that too.
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23rd March 2023, 07:27 PM	#2339
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,545	Originally Posted by Hans So, what is his next move: more rants or some action that's really stupid? I really have images of Jimmy Cagney in the last five minutes of "White Heat" TOP OF THE WORLD, MA, TOP OF THE WORLD
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23rd March 2023, 07:30 PM	#2340
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,545	What is interesting is that all of his a lawyers are telling Trump to turn himself in quietly, ..pretty sure they could arrange for him to be indicted and then releaserd on a huge bond and never actually have him (at least for now) go to jail, but Trump seems to be resisting that wanting a much drama as possible.
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23rd March 2023, 07:31 PM	#2341
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,545	"As they tell us to be peaceful" those words might come back to haunt Trump if it turns viiolent. He might as yell "Burn,Baby, Burn" and be done with it.
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23rd March 2023, 07:33 PM	#2342
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,545	And Alvin Bragg is an Afro American. You know if Trump is indicted the race card will be played like it neverhas before.
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23rd March 2023, 08:26 PM	#2344
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,545	Originally Posted by newyorkguy I think trump's lawyers have been suggesting he allow them to arrange a virtual arraignment by remote hookup. trump is in Mar-a-Lago the court is in Manhattan. Many legal experts expect no actual arrest, he'll be arraigned and then processed right in the courthouse. Possibly no bond requirement at all. None. trump's latest antics remind me of Al Pacino in "Scarface." And an even older (much older) movie, 1931's "Little Cesar," starring Edward G. Robinson. Wonder if they're trump faves? And the movie i referenced, White Heat imho the best gangster shoots it out with the authoraties ever done. But Little Caesar...."Could this be the end of Trump?".
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23rd March 2023, 08:35 PM	#2345
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Photo Contest Winner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 41,900	Originally Posted by Stacyhs Whacko version of Waco? Didn't he just recently do a rally in Waco? The irony was not unnoticed by me.
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23rd March 2023, 08:39 PM	#2346
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 9,936	This may be of some interest - Judge Gives Trump Mafia Boss Treatment And Says So Quote: The Federal judge handling E. Jean Carroll’s rape/defamation lawsuits against Donald Trump just gave Trump a treatment generally reserved for mafia bosses and terrorists. Judge Lewis Kaplan ordered that the jurors in the case will be anonymous. The judge did so, not on the request of either party, but sua sponte (the court’s own motion). The judge acknowledged that such treatment was unusual and “most often” reserved for “terrorism and organized crime cases.” However, the judge cited Trump’s long history of attempting to intimidate courts, witnesses, and even individual jurors as justifying this unusual step.
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23rd March 2023, 08:45 PM	#2347
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 58,545	I see the rioters in Bordeaus in France have burned down the City Hall. Hope this does not give the MAGARATS any ideas.
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23rd March 2023, 08:50 PM	#2348
Orphia Nay Penguilicious Spodmaster. Tagger Photo Contest Winner Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ponylandistan Presidential Palace (above the Spods' stables). Posts: 41,900	Originally Posted by Aridas This may be of some interest - Judge Gives Trump Mafia Boss Treatment And Says So Wow, well done on the judge's part. Yep, the MAGA internet warriors definitely need to be prevented from harassing the jurors.
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23rd March 2023, 10:23 PM	#2349
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,935	Trump responded thusly. Can I ask what penalties apply for threatening a court official with a baseball bat?
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23rd March 2023, 11:37 PM	#2350
Skeptic Ginger Nasty Woman Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 93,863	Originally Posted by dudalb What is interesting is that all of his a lawyers are telling Trump to turn himself in quietly, ..pretty sure they could arrange for him to be indicted and then releaserd on a huge bond and never actually have him (at least for now) go to jail, but Trump seems to be resisting that wanting a much drama as possible. Of course he wants drama. He just raised 1.5 million off of claiming an arrest was coming last Tue. And I imagine he has quite a fantasy going about how he'll look on that perp walk. This is a man who knows no shame whatsoever. Remember Bannon's perp walk. He used it to talk to the press.

24th March 2023, 03:35 AM	#2351
Crazy Chainsaw Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 7,317	Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger Of course he wants drama. He just raised 1.5 million off of claiming an arrest was coming last Tue. And I imagine he has quite a fantasy going about how he'll look on that perp walk. This is a man who knows no shame whatsoever. Remember Bannon's perp walk. He used it to talk to the press. You have too have morals to know shame, Trump and the GQP have none.

24th March 2023, 03:52 AM	#2352
Armitage72 Philosopher Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,816	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Trump responded thusly. Can I ask what penalties apply for threatening a court official with a baseball bat? Someone should point out to him that only about 20% of "US residents" voted for him in 2020, but he would probably spin it as something like "See, I did twice as well as he did."

24th March 2023, 05:41 AM	#2353
Ladewig I lost an avatar bet. Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 28,767	Originally Posted by newyorkguy I think trump's lawyers have been suggesting he allow them to arrange a virtual arraignment by remote hookup. trump is in Mar-a-Lago the court is in Manhattan. Many legal experts expect no actual arrest, he'll be arraigned and then processed right in the courthouse. Possibly no bond requirement at all. None. trump's latest antics remind me of Al Pacino in "Scarface." And an even older (much older) movie, 1931's "Little Cesar," starring Edward G. Robinson. Wonder if they're trump faves? The Trump photo is obviously faked: he is nowhere near smart enough to keep his finger off the trigger until he is ready to shoot.
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24th March 2023, 05:44 AM	#2354
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,935	Originally Posted by arthwollipot Originally Posted by Norman Alexander All this bravado from a guy who is scared of a bird. Given the circumstances, I'd flinch from that too. Now imagine the same coward pulling the trigger on a noisy, dangerous AK47. He would scream, drop it, and run. With extra excretion.
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24th March 2023, 06:06 AM	#2355
Fast Eddie B Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lenoir City, TN/Mineral Bluff, GA Posts: 7,554	Originally Posted by Orphia Nay Didn't he just recently do a rally in Waco? The irony was not unnoticed by me. Scheduled for tomorrow, Saturday. From USA Today: The rally, planned for Saturday, will fall during the 30th anniversary of the siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco. Federal agents, aiming to arrest cult leader David Koresh, surrounded his walled compound in an armed standoff that lasted more than a month. It ended in a botched raid that left 76 people, including 25 children, dead.

24th March 2023, 06:44 AM	#2356
newyorkguy Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NY Posts: 13,059	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Trump responded thusly. Can I ask what penalties apply for threatening a court official with a baseball bat? I have to admit, I never imagined trump getting this crazy. And referring to the Manhattan DA as an "animal" and "scum?" WTAF??? By the way, National File dot com is described by Wikipedia as a "an American right-wing blog and news website founded in August 2019. It is known for publishing false or misleading claims about COVID-19." National File has published (uploaded?) many fake news stories. But the one about Bragg isn't just fake, it's idiotic. First, the 2021 election referred to was for Manhattan (New York County) residents only. It was not a citywide race. Obviously, if Bragg had only won 10% of the votes in Manhattan he would not now be Manhattan District Attorney. Second, Bragg won 83% of the vote, beating Republican challenger Thomas Kenniff by about 170,000 votes out of about 250,000 cast (211,000 vs 41,000). The amount of sheer lying trump and his acolytes do is beyond anything I have ever seen. It reaches the level where it's actually hard to believe it is happening. A nightmare.

24th March 2023, 07:31 AM	#2357
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 19,887	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Trump responded thusly. Can I ask what penalties apply for threatening a court official with a baseball bat? From: Yahoo news CNN legal analyst Norm Eisen also spoke out about Mr Trump’s post. “Threatening a prosecutor is a crime in NY. In fact MULTIPLE crimes: Harassment in the first degree NYPL 240.25; menacing in the second degree NYPL 120.14; stalking in the fourth or third degree NYPL 120.45 & 120.50 And that’s just for starters….” he tweeted.
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24th March 2023, 07:39 AM	#2358
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,604	Originally Posted by Segnosaur From: Yahoo news CNN legal analyst Norm Eisen also spoke out about Mr Trump’s post. “Threatening a prosecutor is a crime in NY. In fact MULTIPLE crimes: Harassment in the first degree NYPL 240.25; menacing in the second degree NYPL 120.14; stalking in the fourth or third degree NYPL 120.45 & 120.50 And that’s just for starters….” he tweeted. Very interesting but it only matters if the person doing the harassing is a nonentity. The rich and powerful have "First Amendment Rights".