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‘They want to make an example’: Cuba protesters hit with severe sentences
From the Guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ences-sedition |
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Did you wonder about the title of the article after you read it, Lplus? (If you actually did read it, that is.)
On the one hand, you have Cuba protesters hit with severe sentences, and on the other hand, you have stories like this one:
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So the poor guy just left his mother's house to collect an Atari game from a friend, and then he suddenly began to throw stones at the police amid the tumult. Why? Because the police prevented him from picking up the Atari game?! Or because they were trying to prevent people from smashing and looting shops? And shops were smashed and looted, and yet the people hit with harsh sentences are protesters, not looters and people throwing stones at the police, according to the title of the article. This looks like the kind of reporting on the Capitol riots that we have seen from Fox and other right-wing loonies recently when armed seditionists invading the Capitol building are described as peaceful tourists. |
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Today, Jan 17, 2022: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 33, USA 251. --> Cuba 6; USA 357. --> Cuba 275; USA 2,334 Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 0.23, USA 3.49. --> Cuba 0.03; USA 3.98. --> Cuba 0.11; USA 5.33 (A weird jump in the Cuban numbers on Jan 10!) The trend is now rising numbers of new cases and deaths in both Cuba and the USA. Share of people vaccinated against COVID-19. Cuba: fully 73.41, total 89.07; USA: fully 57.58, total 67.38. --> Cuba: fully 82.06, total 90.37; USA: fully 60.72; total 72.23 --> Cuba: fully 86.32, total 92.99; USA: fully 62.46; total 74.75 COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people. Cuba 238.92, USA 130.99 --> Cuba 257.04; USA 147.6 --> Cuba 288.05; USA 158.7 (Cuba recently began administering booster shots to the general population.) Daily COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people. Rolling 7-day average. Cuba 0.98, USA 0.30 --> Cuba 0.44; USA 0.40 --> Cuba 1.58; USA 0.24 It is obvious that the Cubans are worried about the new variant: Con la variante Ómicron no podemos confiarnos para nada, advierte Primer Ministro (Granma.cu, Jan 11, 2022) |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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No, I wouldn't and I don't.
The hardships that most of the Cubans protested against peacefully were very real - and on July 11 about to get even worse due to the pandemic. However, looting food stores, smashing police cars and encouraging an invasion by U.S. troops missed the point. As does the kind of journalism that portrays invaders of the Capitol building in Washington as peaceful tourists and looters and stone throwers in Cuba as peaceful protesters. And the hardships are still there, which the many articles about foreign aid serve to stress: Cuba received 135 donations from compatriots abroad and friends in 2021 (Granma.cu, Jan 19, 2022) That the USA tries to take advantage of those hardships is despicable and the reason why the protests against the U.S. blockade are always several times larger than the July 2020 protests: Millions of U.S. dollars to destabilize Cuba (Granma.cu, Jan 18, 2022) But you wouldn't want to hear about "some sort of US inspired plot to oust a communist government," would you?! |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Cuban medical brigades to help the U.S. fight Omicron?
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Yes it's outrageous that people might violently protest against a brutal communist tyranny that rules with an iron fist and permits no non-violent means of removing them from power.
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Tell us about how the brutal Social Democratic tyranny with an iron fist banned peaceful outdoor demonstrations in the summer of 2020:
Black lives matter-manifestation samlade tusentals i Stockholm (SVT.se, June 4, 2020) Thousands defy pandemic ban to join Stockholm protests over U.S. police violence (Reuters, June 3, 2020) Stockholm police end Black Lives Matter protest for exceeding gatherings limit (RadioSweden, June 4, 2020)
Were any stores looted? Were police cars destroyed? Was there any property damage at all? Why were the protesters pepper sprayed, attacked and arrested? Some people seem to think that words like brutal communist tyranny and iron fist are reality, and then they get terribly upset when somebody points out to them that it isn't so. |
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Cuba is now just another Latin American Dictatorship. Only difference is the Marxist rhetoric.
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Information on criminal cases associated with July 11, 2021, disturbances (Granma.cu, Jan 27, 2022)
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Analysis: Biassed reporting about Cuban protests in NYT and WP:
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Prosecutions stemming from July 11-12 disturbances advance (Granma.cu, Feb 14, 2022)
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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One of those protests you would probably never have heard about:
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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I didn't notice any argument for the charge. Did you?
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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What Cubans want for 2022
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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It's that time of the month.
The SARS-CoV-2 numbers from Our World in Data, Nov 16, 2021, and today: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 33, USA 251. --> Cuba 79, USA 410. Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 0.23, USA 3.49. --> Cuba 0.37, USA 6.80. Vaccinations: Share of people vaccinated against COVID-19 Cuba: fully 73.41, total 89.07; USA: fully 57.58, total 67.38. --> Cuba: fully 87.12, total 93.59; USA: fully 64.29, total 75.88. Since it takes three jabs to be considered fully vaccinated in Cuba, the difference is even bigger if we look at: COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people Cuba 238.92, USA 130.99. --> Cuba 306.92, USA 164.89. Daily COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people. Rolling 7-day average. Cuba 0.98, USA 0.30. --> Cuba 0.23, USA 0.11. The numbers from this thread for Dec 17, 2021, and January 17, 2022. CNN's Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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The protests in Cuba on July 11, 2021:
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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How the U.S. Blockade Has Killed Cubans during the Pandemic
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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The SARS-CoV-2 numbers from Our World in Data, Nov 16, 2021, and today:
Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 33, USA 251. --> Cuba 49, USA 96. (Decreased testing?) Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 0.23, USA 3.49. --> Cuba 0.04, USA 3.82. Vaccinations: Share of people vaccinated against COVID-19 Cuba: fully 73.41, total 89.07; USA: fully 57.58, total 67.38. --> Cuba: fully 87.44, total 93.83; USA: fully 65.27, total 76.54. Since it takes three jabs to be considered fully vaccinated in Cuba, the difference is even bigger if we look at: COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people Cuba 238.92, USA 130.99. --> Cuba 310.74, USA 167.81. Daily COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people. Rolling 7-day average. Cuba 0.98, USA 0.30. --> Cuba 0.11, USA 0.05. CNN's Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide The numbers from this thread for Dec 17, 2021, January 17, 2022 and Feb 17, 2022. Italian volunteers participating in Soberana Plus-Turin clinical trials arrive in Cuba (Granma.cu, March 9, 2022) Abdala demonstrates safety and immunogenicity in children (Granma.cu, Feb 17, 2022) Google translate:
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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One or our resident Marxists loves a Marxist dictatorship. No news in that.
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One of our self-proclaimed centrists didn't even discover the lie in the OP. No news in that.
Meanwhile in the real world: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people: Cuba 0.06, USA 2.51. Cumulative confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people: Cuba 752, USA 2,934. Apparently, Cuba does have such a great health-care system - in spite of all the obstacles the U.S. blockade puts in its way. The only reason why the USA's health-care system is not considered to have failed is that it is considered a moral obligation for old people to be willing to die on the altar of capitalism.
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Recibió Díaz-Canel al Director General de la Organización Mundial de la Propiedad Intelectual (+ Video) (Granma.cu, March 29, 2022) I'm surprised to see Díaz-Canel without a face mask, but I assume that was exclusively for the photo opportunity. Face masks still play an important role in Cuba's successful fight against the virus:
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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This is one of those Reuters articles about Cuba that are almost entirely ignored by the Western media, but it is worth remembering now when some of the most persistent countries in the struggle against the virus have surrendered to Omicron.
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Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people + test positivity rate (some countries absent) Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people Cumulative[/hilite] confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people You can "Type to add a country" if you so desire. I deliberately left out the USA because it tends to 'flatten the curves' of other countries - particularly the cumulative confirmed deaths. Notice that Cuba's rates of infections and deaths skyrocketed in the summer and fall of 2021 when the population had not yet been vaccinated, but the country has managed to keep them very low since then. There is obviously a big difference between, on the one hand, trying to spare children from getting infected and, on the other hand, deliberately using them as a vector for spreading the virus in order to achieve an imaginary herd immunity. |
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Cuba's anti-Covid vaccine Abdala:
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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No, dudalb never thought that Cuba had such a great health-care system. Why would anyone thinks so when they never make the effort to read up on it instead of continually bleating, 'four legs g-o-o-o-o-d, two legs b-a-a-a-a-d!'?
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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Health as a right instead of as a commodity to be bought and sold - if you can afford it.
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/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
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The SARS-CoV-2 numbers from Our World in Data, Nov 16, 2021, and today:
Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 33, USA 251. --> Cuba 43, USA 98. (Decreased testing?) Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 0.23, USA 3.49. --> Cuba 0.03, USA 1.44. Cumulative confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people Cuba 752.73, USA 2,969.40. Vaccinations: Share of people vaccinated against COVID-19 Cuba: fully 73.41, total 89.07; USA: fully 57.58, total 67.38. --> Cuba: fully 87.71, total 94.05; USA: fully 65.87, total 77.13. Since it takes three jabs to be considered fully vaccinated in Cuba, the difference is even bigger if we look at: COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people Cuba 238.92, USA 130.99. --> Cuba 314.18, USA 171.02. Daily COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people. Rolling 7-day average. Cuba 0.98, USA 0.30. --> Cuba 0.11, USA 0.12. CNN's Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide The numbers from this thread for Dec 17, 2021, January 17, 2022, Feb 17, 2022 and March 16, 2022.
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The pandemic response - USA and Cuba
In the USA, a federal judge in Florida strikes down the mandate for planes and public transport:
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It is rather obvious why the USA would like to exclude Cuba from any talks that touch upon the response to the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic. |
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The UPI article was probably based on the Spanish version of this Cuban article:
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Now that Fauci has declared that the USA is 'out of the pandemic phase', there is every reason to ask Cuba for help. Its doctors and researchers have managed to fight the virus better than most other countries and are not about to abandon the fight in favor of delusional wishful thinking:
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It is interesting to observe the outcome of Cuba's pandemic response since Nov 1, 2022, when the country was on the verge of finishing its vaccination campaign:
Cumulative confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people: USA, Cuba (Our World in Data, Nov 1, 2021, to May 1, 2022) |
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May 1st, 2022, in Havana
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I feared that a celebration of this size might give rise to more infections, but so far that doesn't seem to have been the case. On the contrary, in fact: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people And after a minor increase in the number of daily deaths in February, the number of daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people has been below 0.10 since Feb. 27, i.e. insignificant in comparison to most other countries. Maybe Omicron is so contagious that it is a good idea to mask up even for outdoor celebrations like this one. In the photos, I see only one exception to the rule. Other photos from May 1 in Havana seem to confirm that everybody is masking up. |
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And the number of daily new confirmed cases in Cuba is still decreasing even after the May 1 celebrations: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people. The combination vaccinations and masking up seems to be what it takes, but it probably helps that most Cuban celebrations take place outdoors this time of the year.
The SARS-CoV-2 numbers from Our World in Data, Nov 16, 2021, and today: Daily new confirmed COVID-19 cases per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 33, USA 251. --> Cuba 8, USA 275. Daily new confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people. 7-day rolling average. Cuba 0.23, USA 3.49. --> Cuba 0.03, USA 0.90. Cumulative confirmed COVID-19 deaths per million people Cuba 753.61, USA 3,003.29. Vaccinations: Share of people vaccinated against COVID-19 Cuba: fully 73.41, total 89.07; USA: fully 57.58, total 67.38. --> Cuba: fully 87.98, total 94.23; USA: fully 66.45, total 77.53. Since it takes three jabs to be considered fully vaccinated in Cuba, the difference is even bigger if we look at: COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people Cuba 238.92, USA 130.99. --> Cuba 321.32, USA 175.25. Daily COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people. Rolling 7-day average. Cuba 0.98, USA 0.30. --> Cuba 0.20, USA 0.08. CNN's Tracking Covid-19 vaccinations worldwide The numbers from this thread for Dec 17, 2021, Jan 17, 2022, Feb 17, 2022, Mar 16, 2022 and April 17, 2022. |
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Q&A about
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This corresponds to talking about the sentences imposed by the U.S. regime on peaceful protesters behaving like ordinary tourists in the Capitol building on Jan 6, 2021. For some reason, the Nov 2021 protests, i.e. after the success of Cuba's vaccination program and not during the one Covid-19 wave that Cuba experienced, aren't mentioned. |
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Frantic search for milk
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Is it impossible for the mainstream media to consider that the Communist government is concerned simply because Cuban children don't get the milk they need? WP does write that ...
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